Thorncroft Posted April 15, 2016 #51 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Couldn't agree more. It's pathetic. Especially this Je Souhaite character who stalks JH so much he probably knows when he takes bathroom breaks. Actually, there's no need to stalk him to gather that information. He feels compelled to tell us when he's constipated and when he's regular. Edited April 15, 2016 by Thorncroft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je Souhaite Posted April 15, 2016 #52 Share Posted April 15, 2016 And thank's to JH's comment, I can gladly state, once again, that the name is definitely NOT Fiesta. It seems there are some that are heck bent to deny a person their opinion if they are not affiliated with the cruise line. I won't put money on ANYTHING until I see the Press release. In the mean time, they could put B O A T on the side and it wouldn't matter a hill of beans to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je Souhaite Posted April 15, 2016 #53 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Actually, there's no need to stalk him to gather that information. He feels compelled to tells us when he's constipated and when he's regular. True that. Who cared that he had a transatlantic package waiting to deliver that was overdue for days.:confused: Edited April 15, 2016 by Je Souhaite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted April 15, 2016 #54 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Actually, there's no need to stalk him to gather that information. He feels compelled to tell us when he's constipated and when he's regular. Think he is a funny fellow but really wish he would lose his bathroom humor. TMI for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butch81385 Posted April 15, 2016 #55 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Think he is a funny fellow but really wish he would lose his bathroom humor. TMI for sure. I feel that 98% of the time any bathroom speak is used is a setup for a joke (and not to be taken literally). But I definitely understand that not everyone enjoys jokes related to the bathroom. To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted April 15, 2016 #56 Share Posted April 15, 2016 And thank's to JH's comment, I can gladly state, once again, that the name is definitely NOT Fiesta. It seems there are some that are heck bent to deny a person their opinion if they are not affiliated with the cruise line. In fairness, you originally made a blanket statement while not providing us with a credible source to back up your statement. JH is not always right, nor is he always forthcoming. He is, after all, a company spokesperson and an entertainer at that. Carnival is known to hold their hand close until they are ready to make an announcement about a coming announcement that invariably gets delayed numerous times before they finally break their often times underwhelming news. With that said, I doubt Fiesta will be the name. Personally, I thought that Breeze and Sunshine were overly cutesy names for cruise ships, so anything is possible. At the end of the day, your guess is as good as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butch81385 Posted April 15, 2016 #57 Share Posted April 15, 2016 In fairness, you originally made a blanket statement while not providing us with a credible source to back up your statement. JH is not always right, nor is he always forthcoming. He is, after all, a company spokesperson and an entertainer at that. Carnival is known to hold their hand close until they are ready to make an announcement about a coming announcement that invariably gets delayed numerous times before they finally break their often times underwhelming news. With that said, I doubt Fiesta will be the name. Personally, I thought that Breeze and Sunshine were overly cutesy names for cruise ships, so anything is possible. At the end of the day, your guess is as good as mine. While I can understand hesitation in taking a Brand Ambassador at his word regarding a not-yet-released news item (regardless of how unimportant it really it), when compared to the original "source" of a random Wiki editor with nothing to back it up, I personally would assume the Brand Ambassador was more correct than that Wiki editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimneda Posted April 15, 2016 #58 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Think he is a funny fellow but really wish he would lose his bathroom humor. TMI for sure. I enjoy his bathroom humor. I incorporated a bit of it in my latest wikipedia page edit It's in the "Personal Life" section of Heald's Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Heald#Personal_life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxter54 Posted April 15, 2016 #59 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I think they should honor their past and name it "Carnivale".Then it would officially be known as the "Carnival Carnivale". Alliteration for $200, Alex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mammy Posted April 15, 2016 #60 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Actually I have found that the stuff he denies turns out to many times be true, and then he does a back peddle, while he oddly attacks those that point it out to him. So I'm not surprised at the skeptics. Cite examples please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave994 Posted April 15, 2016 #61 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I enjoy his bathroom humor. I incorporated a bit of it in my latest wikipedia page editIt's in the "Personal Life" section of Heald's Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Heald#Personal_life You may need to cruise more as you have far too much time on your hands if your doing Wikipedia posts on JH. 90% of the people who sail on Carnival have no idea who the man is. Now I don't know what the ship is going to be called, but if they were going to name it Fiesta and then someone caught on, I would expect a brand ambassador to deny it on behalf of the company. I have never stepped on a ship simply because of a name. Features and price are what I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising maniac Posted April 15, 2016 #62 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I scanned through some of these posts (ignoring the comments about bathrooms stuff) and I am wondering what is wrong with the name Fiesta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted April 15, 2016 #63 Share Posted April 15, 2016 While I can understand hesitation in taking a Brand Ambassador at his word regarding a not-yet-released news item (regardless of how unimportant it really it), when compared to the original "source" of a random Wiki editor with nothing to back it up, I personally would assume the Brand Ambassador was more correct than that Wiki editor. I agree. As we have seen in this thread, any random Joe on the street that feels compelled and has a motive, can take matters into their own hands and make alterations to Wikipedia as they see fit. It comes down to which Wiki editor has the more believable guess. Carnival will let us know what the name is when they get ready. I won't be losing any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabear99211 Posted April 15, 2016 #64 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Just read that the new Carnival ship currently being built might of had its name leaked on Wikipedia by mistake Wednesday it was listed on the site as Fiesta and was quickly taken down lol Guess we'll find out by next year for sure Just more wrong information posted by people who don't know what they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottsSweetie Posted April 15, 2016 #65 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Fiesta has to be the single worst name for a cruise ship I've ever heard. It better not be true. Or what? You won't sail on it? You'll boycott them? I really don't understand the implied threat (which is what it is when I tell my kids "you better not (fill in the blank)." You may need to cruise more as you have far too much time on your hands if your doing Wikipedia posts on JH. 90% of the people who sail on Carnival have no idea who the man is. Now I don't know what the ship is going to be called, but if they were going to name it Fiesta and then someone caught on, I would expect a brand ambassador to deny it on behalf of the company. I have never stepped on a ship simply because of a name. Features and price are what I care about. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfwench Posted April 15, 2016 #66 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Carnival Horizon sounds too much like Event Horizon .... scary movie :eek: In defense of Brand Ambassadors ... I'm a kind of brand ambassador at work, tasked with passing along information from corporate. Believe it or not, corporate changes their mind, sometimes last minute without warning. Pity poor brand ambassadors who can only sing the song they are given. How about Carnivale? or Festivale? Panorama? Prospect? Zephyr? Tradewinds? Enchantment? Bewitched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted April 15, 2016 #67 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Carnival Horizon sounds too much like Event Horizon .... scary movie :eek: In defense of Brand Ambassadors ... I'm a kind of brand ambassador at work, tasked with passing along information from corporate. Believe it or not, corporate changes their mind, sometimes last minute without warning. Pity poor brand ambassadors who can only sing the song they are given. How about Carnivale? or Festivale? Panorama? Prospect? Zephyr? Tradewinds? Enchantment? Bewitched? They could start a whole new class with Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered. Or Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted April 15, 2016 #68 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Just got off the phone with Arnold Donald and he says that Carnival wants the new ship to be a tribute to all the value cruisers out there. It will be officially announced very soon but I'll leak it here now and let you know that the new Vista Class ship is going to be called Carnival Smuggler. There were 2 other candidates internally that the name beat out. Those were: Carnival Rum Runner and Carnival Bootlegger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLHyatt Posted April 15, 2016 #69 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) I like John, but I do think he needs a villain, and Cruise Critic fits that bill. He's a showman who needs someone to stir up controversy on his page to build a following and taking posts from here out of context along with the folks that willingly go tell him stuff being discussed here as fact provides that bit of controversy without hurting any feelings. It's a give and take thing here, but I think the average user on his page hasn't really gotten into the cruise critic community beyond the surface and feels like they are better off sticking to his page. There may be some "elitist" mentalities here, but for the most part everyone is down to earth and just wants to get on a ship. I've learned a lot from this group of people and it didn't matter if they liked john or not. With that in mind there have been many many many things posted about here that he had no idea about, and at first denied only to come back later and confirm. Edited April 15, 2016 by WLHyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted April 15, 2016 #70 Share Posted April 15, 2016 With that in mind there have been many many many things posted about here that he had no idea about, and at first denied only to come back later and confirm. Yaaas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubetti Posted April 15, 2016 #71 Share Posted April 15, 2016 That's never stopped other cruise lines from hijacking each other's names. Count how many Magics, Dreams and Splendors are floating around out there. Sorry, but there would be another name associated with that name. Such as "Splendor of the Sea", "Thomson Dream", "Disney Magic", etc. Not just that single name as you suggested. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTravelista Posted April 15, 2016 #72 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Or what? You won't sail on it? You'll boycott them? I really don't understand the implied threat (which is what it is when I tell my kids "you better not (fill in the blank)." Agreed. Perhaps its not for you to "understand"? If I choose to do any of the above, or anything else for that matter, what business of yours is it? Edited April 15, 2016 by TheTravelista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisomo Posted April 15, 2016 #73 Share Posted April 15, 2016 This is not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted April 15, 2016 #74 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Sorry, but there would be another name associated with that name. Such as "Splendor of the Sea", "Thomson Dream", "Disney Magic", etc. Not just that single name as you suggested. :cool: Nit picky BS. You knew what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottsSweetie Posted April 15, 2016 #75 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Perhaps its not for you to "understand"? If I choose to do any of the above, or anything else for that matter, what business of yours is it? You are correct - your reason is not for me to understand. But perhaps you don't understand that when you respond on a public forum you are inviting replies. Anyone can respond to you just like you responded to the OP. Happy sailing to you, whatever the ship is named that you are sailing on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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