Kingofcool1947 Posted July 28, 2016 Author #26 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) This reminds me of a Bum Phillips quote. "Mama always said that if it can't rain on you, you're indoors." (Explaining why he wouldn't wear his cowboy hat in the Astrodome, the first domed stadium) I saw six good ole boys wearing cowboy hats, western style shirts, and jeans seated at a table in the MDR at dinner time. I guess they thought they were still on the ranch? Tall, tan, and buff. Like stars off a western movie set. Maitre D said nothing to them about removing their hats. I could care less, but the woman at the table next to them were flirting with them. :) So, just curious, if these good ole boys were sitting at your table, would you remind them to remove their hats? BTW, just wondering, where would they put them when dining? Lap, floor, other? :D:D. Soon, evening dress codes will probably go extinct like the dinasours. Edited July 29, 2016 by Kingofcool1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted July 29, 2016 #27 Share Posted July 29, 2016 As my grandmother would have said about a man wearing his hat for a meal, "Bless his heart, he just doesn't know any better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted July 29, 2016 Author #28 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) That Stetson is probably worth more than the rest of the man's attire combined (saving his boots, of course). It's safer on his head than anywhere else in the car. After dinner I saw these guys at the bar, and out of curiousity, I asked one about his hat. He told me it was a Stetson, "El Presidente" model. Whatever that means. :confused::confused: They wore their cowboy hats, jeans, cowboy boots every night. We saw them in the theater, and at the Western line dance. The woman were swooning over them. Go figure. :) Edited July 29, 2016 by Kingofcool1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsyAnne Posted July 29, 2016 #29 Share Posted July 29, 2016 After dinner I saw these guys at the bar, and out of curiousity, I asked one about his hat. He told me it was a Stetson, "El Presidente" model. Whatever that means. :confused::confused: They wore their cowboy hats, jeans, cowboy boots every night. We saw them in the theater, and at the Western line dance. The woman were swooning over them. Go figure. :) All hat, no cattle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sopwith Posted July 29, 2016 #30 Share Posted July 29, 2016 One of the things that has turned Mrs. Sopwith and I off Princess and HAL, and moved us toward premium cruise lines on some occasions, is the increasing riff raff factor we have seen in the last 10 years or so. People who would wear a baseball cap in the MDR are definitely in that category. They are not, by definition, "gents". People who think it's their "right" to wear what they want without consideration that others place value on the ambiance of the MDR also fall into that category. Sorry, but I am one who does care about the overall experience, and appropriate dress is part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igraf Posted July 29, 2016 #31 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) I sympathize with your problem, but you could come up with something more elegant than a baseball cap to protect your head from the cold AC. Perhaps a beret. I for one was put off when someone at our high tea table had a baseball cap on backwards while most of the others were dressed nicely. igraf ...MDR are usually to cold for me. My head gets cold.... Edited July 29, 2016 by igraf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted July 29, 2016 Author #32 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) All hat, no cattle? I noticed steak left in on their dinner plates. Wonder what they thought of the quality of beef? Maybe not very high. :) So, would you tell these cowboys to remove their hats if they were sitting at your dining table? Edited July 29, 2016 by Kingofcool1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted July 29, 2016 #33 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I was going to quote the same thing. Bum Phillips was a gentleman. And a gentleman doesn't wear a hat indoors. In fact, I spent 20 years in the military. And in the military we never were "covered" indoors. Is this really a difficult question? Solders carrying a weapon in an official capacity are under arms and are to wear "cover", even indoors. In fact, wearing a pistol belt could be enough to be considered "under arms". All soldiers under arms are to wear the appropriate headgear even indoors. As a pay officer, for example, I was required to carry a sidearm and was accompanied by a soldier carrying a rifle. Both of us wore our "cover" indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsyAnne Posted July 29, 2016 #34 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I noticed steak left in on their dinner plates. Wonder what they thought of the quality of beef? Maybe not very high. :) So, would you tell these cowboys to remove their hats if they were sitting at your dining table? No, it would not be my place to, but I would perhaps add it to my memories of "what I did on my summer vacation." Some of the nicest and/or most interesting people I have met have been unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted July 29, 2016 Author #35 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) All hat, no cattle? Maybe beef didn't meet their standards? :) Edited July 29, 2016 by Kingofcool1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igraf Posted July 29, 2016 #36 Share Posted July 29, 2016 And this is relevant to dining on a cruise ship how? igraf Solders carrying a weapon in an official capacity are under arms and are to wear "cover", even indoors. In fact, wearing a pistol belt could be enough to be considered "under arms". All soldiers under arms are to wear the appropriate headgear even indoors. As a pay officer, for example, I was required to carry a sidearm and was accompanied by a soldier carrying a rifle. Both of us wore our "cover" indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted July 29, 2016 Author #37 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I sympathize with your problem, but you could come up with something more elegant than a baseball cap to protect your head from the cold AC. Perhaps a beret. I for one was put off when someone at our high tea table had a baseball cap on backwards while most of the others were dressed nicely. igraf I don't wear a baseball cap except when I go to sporting events. But you think wearing a beret is OK in the MDR? My head does get cold especially if the AC is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted July 29, 2016 #38 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I don't wear a baseball cap except when I go to sporting events. But you think wearing a beret is OK in the MDR? My head does get cold especially if the AC is on. You may want to consult a physician. Most people get cold all over. If you only get cold on the top of your head, it could be cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted July 29, 2016 #39 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) After dinner I saw these guys at the bar, and out of curiousity, I asked one about his hat. He told me it was a Stetson, "El Presidente" model. Whatever that means. :confused::confused: They wore their cowboy hats, jeans, cowboy boots every night. We saw them in the theater, and at the Western line dance. The woman were swooning over them. Go figure. :) Not in the theater, please. How is anyone supposed to be able to see around/over a stetson? Why is this thread posing a hard question? These guys are inside the ship, why the need for a hat at all? Do they wear their hats inside their homes all day? Edited July 29, 2016 by SilvertoGold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted July 29, 2016 #40 Share Posted July 29, 2016 And this is relevant to dining on a cruise ship how? igraf It is as relevant as the post I responded to: "I was going to quote the same thing. Bum Phillips was a gentleman. And a gentleman doesn't wear a hat indoors. In fact, I spent 20 years in the military. And in the military we never were "covered" indoors. Is this really a difficult question?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted July 29, 2016 #41 Share Posted July 29, 2016 As my grandmother would have said about a man wearing his hat for a meal, "Bless his heart, he just doesn't know any better". Or might have had cancer. But passing judgment without knowing is easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 29, 2016 #42 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Solders carrying a weapon in an official capacity are under arms and are to wear "cover", even indoors. In fact, wearing a pistol belt could be enough to be considered "under arms". All soldiers under arms are to wear the appropriate headgear even indoors. As a pay officer, for example, I was required to carry a sidearm and was accompanied by a soldier carrying a rifle. Both of us wore our "cover" indoors. Yes, when under arms full uniform, including cover, is indicated - but this is a rare exception and has absolutely nothing to do with inappropriate attire elsewhere: such as a dining room - or any other inside venue. In fact, recent shootings on domestic military facilities have thrown light on the fact that US military personnel are rarely under arms - even when on station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 29, 2016 #43 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) I never wear a hat. Don't even own one. Does not matter what I think about people who wear them in the dining venues. They probably do not give a hoot what I think. I cannot control what they choose to wear or not wear as the case may be, nor do I control who gets admitted to the MDR. So, I don't even concern myself with it. Not worth the effort. Who am I to say what is appropriate? I am just another customer. I make a decision not to let it concern me and go on having a great time on the cruise. Hats or no hats. I would have to be pretty thin skinned or a little anal to let something like this detract from my enjoyment. Edited July 29, 2016 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igraf Posted July 29, 2016 #44 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Oh please, you don't think that there are a lot of bald men on a HAL ship??? I am thin on top but I am not so insecure that I have to hide it under a hat. igraf Or might have had cancer. But passing judgment without knowing is easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labatsman Posted July 29, 2016 #45 Share Posted July 29, 2016 You may want to consult a physician. Most people get cold all over. If you only get cold on the top of your head, it could be cause for concern. My Favourite quote in this thread..so sorry for anyone that needs to wear a baseball cap to dinner.:):):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxThrusters Posted July 29, 2016 #46 Share Posted July 29, 2016 My personal hat code is as follows: Street: ok Public building: ok Vehicle: ok Bar: ok Casino: ok Elevator: ok Any residence: no Anywhere indoor seated to eat: no Private club, anywhere in clubhouse: no Church or other religious venue: no Engaging in sporting activity: Depends on sport Indoors on a ship: no, except perhaps in corridors Outdoors on a ship: yes I don't wear baseball caps anymore myself. I bring a panama hat when going to southern climates. I would never complain about someone not following the dress code anywhere, nor say anything about it at all... out-loud anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLite Posted July 29, 2016 #47 Share Posted July 29, 2016 It is as relevant as the post I responded to: "I was going to quote the same thing. Bum Phillips was a gentleman. And a gentleman doesn't wear a hat indoors. In fact, I spent 20 years in the military. And in the military we never were "covered" indoors. Is this really a difficult question?" You are correct. Service members wear a cover under arms indoors. But, when they break for meals they go outside, clear their weapon, and then go back in, removing their cover and heading to the mess hall. Otherwise, I cannot think of a time I was covered inside. Baseball hats inside have one valid use, IMHO, the medical one. Many men and women prefer them during and after chemo to hot wigs and some wear them after head/brain surgery until scars fade or hair grows back over the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted July 29, 2016 #48 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Oh please, you don't think that there are a lot of bald men on a HAL ship??? I am thin on top but I am not so insecure that I have to hide it under a hat. igraf Ok. Those who underwent chemo may feel different from you. Just accept it without judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatBride Posted July 29, 2016 #49 Share Posted July 29, 2016 is not a gentleman. And if they wear it backwards it lowers their IQ 10 points. Agree! If they must wear a baseball cap, the buffet is open. My husband is bald and somehow manages just fine without even owning a baseball cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted July 29, 2016 #50 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Yes, when under arms full uniform, including cover, is indicated - but this is a rare exception and has absolutely nothing to do with inappropriate attire elsewhere: such as a dining room - or any other inside venue. In fact, recent shootings on domestic military facilities have thrown light on the fact that US military personnel are rarely under arms - even when on station. Go talk to the guy who introduced this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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