cruisingsteve Posted July 19, 2017 #1 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Has anyone run into this problem? If so was there any remedy to the situation? Thanks so much for any info.. This is for the Vista Halloween cruise Edited July 19, 2017 by cruisingsteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted July 19, 2017 #2 Share Posted July 19, 2017 they have to make an age rule, think it leans towards potty training. Why not call and ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catrin Posted July 19, 2017 #3 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Oh boy. Tough call. They have pretty strict starting age rules. I remember our daughters first - we rebooked until a month after her 2nd birthday just for that reason. Just bring her birth certificate. Maybe you can talk to the director. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&Jfamily Posted July 19, 2017 #4 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Has anyone run into this problem?If so was there any remedy to the situation? Thanks so much for any info.. This is for the Vista Halloween cruise Yep. 11 years ago. Wanted to go for Spring Break and his birthday was like 10 days after the cruise ended. Carnival said most likely would not let him in the program, so we waiting until he was almost 3 to cruise. He's 13 now with a dozen cruises under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winddawn Posted July 19, 2017 #5 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Has anyone run into this problem?If so was there any remedy to the situation? Thanks so much for any info.. This is for the Vista Halloween cruise From Carnival's website: "CAMP OCEAN cannot accept children under the age of 2 unless they are turning 2 years old on the cruise. There are no age exceptions to this policy. There are specific times on board each ship that under 2 year olds are welcome into the facility. Each ship operates differently based on the itinerary." https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1077/~/camp-ocean-under-2-children%3A-things-to-know-and-activiites "Children do not have to be potty-trained in order to be part of Camp Ocean or take part of the babysitting services. Parents must provide the Youth Staff with diapers and toiletries to be used for their child." "Camp Ocean is unable to accept children under the age of 2 during activity time. Children under the age of 2 are welcome to join Camp during specific times. Hours may vary due to cruise itineraries. Sea Days: There are limited times throughout the cruise for ‘Under 2' time. Check onboard for specific times offered. Parents have the option of leaving their child in the care of the Youth Staff (fees apply: $6.75 USD per hour plus a 15% gratuity, per child) – or - they can stay and use the camp facility at no charge. This time is designated for the use of 'Under 2’s' and their parents only. Port Days: While in in port, parents have the option of leaving their child in the care of the Youth Staff (fees apply: $6.75 USD per hour plus a 15% gratuity, per child), however, we do not provide meal times for children Under 2. Evenings: Night Owls - for details and fees, see Night Owls (babysitting). From 10:00pm-1:00am each evening in the camp facility, a ‘slumber party’ type atmosphere, including movie time, toys and room service snacks. During this time, there will be children from other age groups (2-11 years) participating in Night Owls. Cribs are available if needed." Babysitting (night owls): https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3835 You stated 23 months and 3 weeks. Carnival will accept them if their 2nd birthday will take place during the cruise. Edited July 19, 2017 by winddawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted July 19, 2017 #6 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Insurance and regulatory staffing issues. Caretaker/child ratios change after the age of two. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted July 19, 2017 #7 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Even if the child was 2 there would be no guarantee that he would be comfortable/happy staying in the camp. That is an age where new environments and leaving parents don't always go well together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted July 20, 2017 #8 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Has anyone run into this problem?If so was there any remedy to the situation? Thanks so much for any info.. This is for the Vista Halloween cruise The solution is to stay home . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset785 Posted July 20, 2017 #9 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Does your child turn two on the cruise? Last year when we sailed on the Magic, my son turned 2 on day two of the cruise. He was able to attend starting that day, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyancho Posted July 20, 2017 #10 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Grandma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradUT Posted July 20, 2017 #11 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Even if the child was 2 there would be no guarantee that he would be comfortable/happy staying in the camp. That is an age where new environments and leaving parents don't always go well together! That is SO true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moongal Posted July 20, 2017 #12 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using Forums[/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJporkroll Posted July 20, 2017 #13 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Didn't read entire thread... so answer may be a duplicate. Cruise lines view age on a (retained age basis). Whatever age you are at embarkation, is your age for the entire voyage. Weather or not they make exceptions, I don't know. Because it never was an issue for me, never had to inquire about it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset785 Posted July 20, 2017 #14 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Didn't read entire thread... so answer may be a duplicate. Cruise lines view age on a (retained age basis). Whatever age you are at embarkation, is your age for the entire voyage. Weather or not they make exceptions, I don't know. Because it never was an issue for me, never had to inquire about it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Not true. If your child turns two on the cruise, then your child can attend Camp Carnival starting from that day. This is specified on the Carnival website. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmukid87 Posted July 20, 2017 #15 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I have an 18 month at home (we cruised with her when she was 9 months...fun times). I don't think I'd be very comfortable with her going to Camp Carnival just 5 months from now. Maybe a year from now. That's my personal feeling, no judgement to those that would. It does seem as if Carnival takes a pretty rigid stance on this and they should. Where do the exceptions end? This is just like the Cheers program with people who are pregnant, recovering alcoholics, medical issues, etc that want an exception to the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnorris10 Posted July 20, 2017 #16 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I would suggest maybe bringing someone with you as a babysitter - My friend does that with her kids and then the times she has the kids the babysitter can go play around on the ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmukid87 Posted July 20, 2017 #17 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I would suggest maybe bringing someone with you as a babysitter - My friend does that with her kids and then the times she has the kids the babysitter can go play around on the ship Exactly what we did. We paid for our cousin to go with us. She knew going in that she was on kid duty when needed. During the day all was normal but at least two nights we wanted to hit the adult comedy show or the casino so she took our little one for a couple hours. I think she got a pretty sweet deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzinlisa Posted July 20, 2017 #18 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Even if the child was 2 there would be no guarantee that he would be comfortable/happy staying in the camp. That is an age where new environments and leaving parents don't always go well together! Absolutely true. We took our daughter on a cruise when she was 2 years and 3 months old. Every single time they would call us and say she was crying and wanted us. The only time we did not get the call was when we were off the ship for a Carnival excursion, but they probably would have called if they could. We were lucky if we got an hour before the phone call. They don't really interact with the kids one on one which does not always work well with kids that age. Even at 4 camp was hit or miss. Now my DD is 6 and would rather spend time with anyone/thing but us most of the time (yes it starts earlier than you think) so she enjoyed camp last go around. First time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted July 20, 2017 #19 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Didn't read entire thread... so answer may be a duplicate. Cruise lines view age on a (retained age basis). Whatever age you are at embarkation, is your age for the entire voyage. Weather or not they make exceptions, I don't know. Because it never was an issue for me, never had to inquire about it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums not true, my son turned 21 on the cruise and they changed his S&S card to say over 21, no way he was going 5 more days without beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&Jfamily Posted July 20, 2017 #20 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Absolutely true. We took our daughter on a cruise when she was 2 years and 3 months old. Every single time they would call us and say she was crying and wanted us. The only time we did not get the call was when we were off the ship for a Carnival excursion, but they probably would have called if they could. We were lucky if we got an hour before the phone call. They don't really interact with the kids one on one which does not always work well with kids that age. Even at 4 camp was hit or miss. Now my DD is 6 and would rather spend time with anyone/thing but us most of the time (yes it starts earlier than you think) so she enjoyed camp last go around. First time. This is very true and child dependent. My son was in preschool for 6-9 months before we took his first cruise just shy of 3. He was thrilled with camp and had zero separation issues. Other kids at even 8 or 9 report that they don't like camp as much as being with Mom and Dad. So really, whenever you chose to take your child it pays to have a good idea of what your child is likely to prefer! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruizinisthebest Posted July 20, 2017 #21 Share Posted July 20, 2017 So many more options open up for parents bringing small children once they are at least 2 years of age. They can try camp even if they don't spend much time. And they may not. I would have booked for a date a few weeks later and totally avoided this concern. Or change my booking if it's not too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzinlisa Posted July 20, 2017 #22 Share Posted July 20, 2017 This is very true and child dependent. My son was in preschool for 6-9 months before we took his first cruise just shy of 3. He was thrilled with camp and had zero separation issues. Other kids at even 8 or 9 report that they don't like camp as much as being with Mom and Dad. So really, whenever you chose to take your child it pays to have a good idea of what your child is likely to prefer! Sent from my iPhone using Forums That is true too. Its definitely very individual to the child and their temperament. Now that I think about it, my daughter did not start formal preschool until after our second to last cruise. We always had in-home child care with small number of kids (usually less than 6) or with grandpa (just her). I thought it might be easier for my DD because being an only child she is relatively independent with her play and does not really look to us for fun. But the flip side is that she is much more introverted- having no siblings to play with such that a bigger group was harder for her. This past cruise was the first one since she started school and it went much better, probably because it was a familiar type of set up as school. But there were still plenty of younger kids having the time of their lives, so definitely it is individual. The moral of the story (yes there is a point) is OP (or whomever) even if you reschedule when camp is available, don't count on it. Lots of small children love it and others don't. I really thought my kid would love it, but I was wrong. Now that I think about it, I should have known it all along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddylover Posted July 20, 2017 #23 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Most cruise lines hold to their age policies strictly. Years back we went on a Disney cruise over Memorial Day at the end of May and my youngest was turning 2 on June 9th....NOPE, they would not allow him into the Disney Kid's program.....a real bummer that we didn't know of before we cruised. But, I guess a rule is a rule no matter how hard it is to swallow...ugggh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckle53 Posted July 20, 2017 #24 Share Posted July 20, 2017 That is SO true. Yup. First cruise, our youngest had just turned 2. We got about 45 minutes of camp. Next cruise he was 3.5. We got an hour one night and an hour the next day and he was scared by something that that was the end of that. This time he will be days from being 5 and has been in preschool all last year and we hope he will have fun in camp a bit. If not, he's my favorite 4 year old anyway, so we will just have our little velcro buddy with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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