mary2e Posted August 15, 2017 #1 Share Posted August 15, 2017 We've taken 1 cruise, and it was almost 20 years ago. While we love being at sea, we do not love the rules & regulations. For example, I wanted to sit by the pool and read after 6pm - which isn't allowed. At the time, the pools closed as people got ready for dinner. Is that still the case? Do we have to eat at an assigned time? Make a reservation? We also do NOT want to dress more than casually - and by that I mean the dressiest would be neater shorts and a top. This is the main reason we have not cruised again. I looked into NCL's The Haven, it is pricey, but appears to meet our needs. Are there any other lines we can/should look into? It really is a shame that I haven't been able to find anything that does not have specific formal or even semi-formal evenings. For us, this is vacation and that means being casual and just doing what we like, when we like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 15, 2017 #2 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I don't know of any of the mass market lines that require you to leave the pool area at 6pm. Most have gone very casual. They may suggest a more formal dress, but it is rarely enforced anymore. They also have anytime dining, so you can eat when you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted August 15, 2017 #3 Share Posted August 15, 2017 We've taken 1 cruise, and it was almost 20 years ago. While we love being at sea, we do not love the rules & regulations. For example, I wanted to sit by the pool and read after 6pm - which isn't allowed. At the time, the pools closed as people got ready for dinner. Is that still the case? Do we have to eat at an assigned time? Make a reservation? We also do NOT want to dress more than casually - and by that I mean the dressiest would be neater shorts and a top. This is the main reason we have not cruised again. I looked into NCL's The Haven, it is pricey, but appears to meet our needs. Are there any other lines we can/should look into? It really is a shame that I haven't been able to find anything that does not have specific formal or even semi-formal evenings. For us, this is vacation and that means being casual and just doing what we like, when we like. I've never been on a ship that didn't allow you to sit on the pool deck (regardless if the pool was closed or not). Most cruise lines do have assigned times for dinner. Some do not. Others have a combination of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted August 15, 2017 #4 Share Posted August 15, 2017 You will find in the last 20 years, rules are gone! It's all about how YOU want to vacation! "Formal" nights are merely suggestions, and decent casual clothing is fine, especially on NCL...they are the most "casual" line, followed by Carnival and RCI. If you still feel intimidated by those who do want to dress up on "elegant or chic" nights, there are lots of different eating venues nowadays...you are NOT limited to the main dining room! NCL is "freestyle"...meaning do what you want, when you want. ALL of the other mainstream lines have a form of "anytime" dining, along with traditional seating...you choose which suits you best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 15, 2017 #5 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Cruising is now very casual: those lines which have dress codes state them really as "suggestions" - which many do not really follow, and there is minimal enforcement beyond the classic "no shirt, no shoes = no service". "Neater shorts and a top" is what many, if not most, diners on NCL wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary2e Posted August 15, 2017 Author #6 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wow... thank you. Things certainly have changed. Re: the pool - yes, it was closed at dinner time :) Anyway, what are the thoughts about Crystal and the other higher end lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted August 15, 2017 #7 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Are there any other lines we can/should look into? It really is a shame that I haven't been able to find anything that does not have specific formal or even semi-formal evenings. For us, this is vacation and that means being casual and just doing what we like, when we like. I'm with you, on many 7 day cruises I skip the main dining room on formal nights or in rare cases just pack a white shirt and tie. On our upcoming 4 day cruise decent pants and a shirt with collar will do. (We don't try to invade the Captain's reception) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckiec Posted August 15, 2017 #8 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I would suggest that NCL will be perfect for you. We love their Freestyle approach. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted August 15, 2017 #9 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wow... thank you. Things certainly have changed. Re: the pool - yes, it was closed at dinner time :) Anyway, what are the thoughts about Crystal and the other higher end lines? Those will still have a more formal vibe with people dressing for dinner . Pool decks are never closed. The pools might be. But late at night Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted August 15, 2017 #10 Share Posted August 15, 2017 It really is a shame that I haven't been able to find anything that does not have specific formal or even semi-formal evenings. For us, this is vacation and that means being casual and just doing what we like, when we like.NCL is casual and Celebrity has an evening chic nights, instead of formal, and you can wear much more casual clothing, including jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoifmom Posted August 15, 2017 #11 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'll weigh in on Carnival. They are VERY casual. "Formal" evenings are now called "cruise elegant" and I have seen everything from nice jeans to cocktail dresses/tuxes. This is 1 evening on cruises of 6 nights or less and 2 on cruises of longer duration. If you didn't want to leave your shorts behind on cruise elegant evenings, there is always the Lido. We love Your Time Dining. There are no reservations, you simply show up during the scheduled time (5:45 - 9:00). Although (if you choose), you could select traditional dining. The pools close at something like midnight or 1:00 am. There is a lot of "night" life on Carnival with late night comedy shows and activities on the deck. The Lido deck never closes (there is 24 hour pizza and ice cream). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Tillie Posted August 15, 2017 #12 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wow... thank you. Things certainly have changed. Re: the pool - yes, it was closed at dinner time :) Anyway, what are the thoughts about Crystal and the other higher end lines? Although Crystal isn't as formal as it once was, everyone is expected to have full length slacks on after 6 PM. Men usually in dress khakis or nice slacks and a collared shirt (polos are OK). Women in a sundress, skirt or slacks and a nice top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary2e Posted August 15, 2017 Author #13 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Thank you again to everyone. Looks like I may be doing a bit more research as the options appear to be more viable for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted August 15, 2017 #14 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Thank you again to everyone. Looks like I may be doing a bit more research as the options appear to be more viable for us. Also, you might find a travel agent who specializes in cruising very helpful to you. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 15, 2017 #15 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wow... thank you. Things certainly have changed. Re: the pool - yes, it was closed at dinner time :) Anyway, what are the thoughts about Crystal and the other higher end lines? On higher end lines your defined "dressiest" -- "neater shorts and a top" would not work. They are not really formal, but they do have dress codes which you should check out - because, unlike the mass market lines, passengers are expected to comply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted August 15, 2017 #16 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wow... thank you. Things certainly have changed. Re: the pool - yes, it was closed at dinner time :) Anyway, what are the thoughts about Crystal and the other higher end lines? We sail Crystal often and it has become our favorite cruise line. You can visit the Crystal Cruises Board. It will offer a wonderful luxury experience between the service, entertainment, cuisine, and enrichment. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeton12321 Posted August 15, 2017 #17 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The more expensive the line and the smaller the ship the less rules and regs there are. Seabourn, Regent, Silversea, and Sea Dream you will pretty much never hear a no. You just can't do that when you have 3000 people on board. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROCRUISE Posted August 15, 2017 #18 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Sounds like you better go with NCL or CCL if shorts and tee shirt is what you want to wear in the MDR. You'll normally see, on men, slacks and a decent shirt in the MDR for evening dinner on Celebrity, Holland America and Princess. We'll be on Windstar next week, and they request slacks, shirt, and closed toed shoes in the MDR for all evening meals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 15, 2017 #19 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The more expensive the line and the smaller the ship the less rules and regs there are. Seabourn, Regent, Silversea, and Sea Dream you will pretty much never hear a no. You just can't do that when you have 3000 people on board. Sent from my iPhone using Forums But, to answer OP, "shorts and a top" are not evening meal attire on any of those lines - of course they won't say "no", they will politely advise about the possibility of in-room dining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted August 15, 2017 #20 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The more expensive the line and the smaller the ship the less rules and regs there are. Seabourn, Regent, Silversea, and Sea Dream you will pretty much never hear a no. You just can't do that when you have 3000 people on board. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I don't think the size of the ship matters. On Crystal which you didn't mention the Fitness Center is open 7x24 even though it is not manned at all hours. That was not the case when we sailed other luxury lines that you mentioned when the doors were locked. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 15, 2017 #21 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The more expensive the line and the smaller the ship the less rules and regs there are. Seabourn, Regent, Silversea, and Sea Dream you will pretty much never hear a no. You just can't do that when you have 3000 people on board. Sounds great!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeton12321 Posted August 16, 2017 #22 Share Posted August 16, 2017 But, to answer OP, "shorts and a top" are not evening meal attire on any of those lines - of course they won't say "no", they will politely advise about the possibility of in-room dining. True- good point. But they also don't ever even pretend to think anyone brought a tux. Country club casual is the rule of the day. And there is nothing wrong with course by course dinner in your stateroom in a bathrobe- same menus as the restaurant. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhsails Posted August 16, 2017 #23 Share Posted August 16, 2017 OP. The boutique lines are similar to country club and dress accordingly. Agree with many, Carnival, NCL, Costa would be more along what you stated you require particularly regarding dress recommendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted August 16, 2017 #24 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Royal Caribbean has "rules" of no shorts in the main dining room. But formal night is a "suggestion." The no shorts rule is not uniformly enforced. People report people wearing shorts, some report seeing people turned away for shorts. Of course, one could pack one pair of Dockers or similar and wear them to dinner. Some people wear a tie or jacket on formal nights, others just wear Dockers and a polo shirt. Or the buffet is always casual. Pool deck and solarium is open all the time, even if the pools and hot tubs are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkacmom Posted August 16, 2017 #25 Share Posted August 16, 2017 But, to answer OP, "shorts and a top" are not evening meal attire on any of those lines - of course they won't say "no", they will politely advise about the possibility of in-room dining. You can wear shorts and a top at dinner in almost all of NCL's dining rooms. We were on the Gem in May, and they were not enforcing the no shorts rule in Pacifica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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