grapau27 Posted May 3, 2018 #451 Share Posted May 3, 2018 What part? You think the majority of D and above members would like to frequent the DL? 80 seats on Harmony with over 500 D and above. I don’t generally count the seats in DL because we prefer to drop in on the CL/SL. What would your estimate of seats available in the DL? Average? Younger cruisers want VOOM and drink packages. I’m talking younger mid 20’s to mid 40’s. Social Media types. Sent from my iPhone using Forums On Harmony we sat on Central Park listening to live music and used our vouchers at Trellis bar.In 7 years of DL use we have always had no problems getting a seat. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted May 3, 2018 #452 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On Harmony we sat on Central Park listening to live music and used our vouchers at Trellis bar.In 7 years of DL use we have always had no problems getting a seat. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app I have never had an issue with crowding myself. I peaked in the DL on Harmony before early MDR seating and there was some seats but just too stuffed for us. 80 seats with over 500 D and above. So like you, most are not using the lounge in the evening. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 3, 2018 #453 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Younger portion are mid 20’s - mid 40’s. Are you in that range? Yes, I am in that range. What part? You think the majority of D and above members would like to frequent the DL? 80 seats on Harmony with over 500 D and above. I can't stand the DL when its crowded. DW and I like to grab a shot of espresso from the DL, walk out to the Viking Crown bar, and use our free drink vouchers to order espresso martinis. We'll only hang out in a crowded DL if we're meeting friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted May 3, 2018 #454 Share Posted May 3, 2018 And your going to say your the younger cruiser too? I know I’m not. And I am a shareholder and Royal has been a good investment. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Thats good.I'm 61 how old are you? Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted May 3, 2018 #455 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Thats good.I'm 61 how old are you? Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app 63 next month Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted May 3, 2018 #456 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I have never had an issue with crowding myself. I peaked in the DL on Harmony before early MDR seating and there was some seats but just too stuffed for us. 80 seats with over 500 D and above. So like you, most are not using the lounge in the evening. Sent from my iPhone using Forums We didn't use the lounge because it had no outside views and Central Park was lovely. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted May 3, 2018 #457 Share Posted May 3, 2018 We didn't use the lounge because it had no outside views and Central Park was lovely. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app As is Symphony and very likely Oasis and Allure after next drydocks. Stuffy and no windows. Lower decks too. Who would want to hang in there? As much as we would like it, I don’t see the VCL on the smaller ships managing a SL/CK together. Maybe Freedom Class? Harmony has a kitchen in CK. I think Allure and Oasis has a staging area for food. Not sure it’s a full kitchen or not. WJ underneath. Next trip I will ask for a tour. MB did mention that the next generation of ships after Oasis would be smaller but likely include Sea/Sky/Star Class. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 3, 2018 #458 Share Posted May 3, 2018 A quick Copenhagen tip courtesy of Danish Viking here on Cc.When you arrive at the airport, buy a Copenhagen Card. This gives you free train and bus travel. You can use it immediately to get to your hotel. It also allows entry to ALL attractions in the City. Tivoli, Blue Planet River Cruise and so many. Hotel Bethel is also recommended as the location in Nyhavn is great Had 3 days before the Serenade Fjord cruise. Thanks! Great tip! Love the Serenade. :hearteyes: She and her three sisters are our favorite ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 3, 2018 #459 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The reps had the meeting in one room while our wives were in a room full of chocolate and told to help themselves to the chocolate. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Are you sure they were not visiting Willy Wonka's place? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 3, 2018 #460 Share Posted May 3, 2018 We did a Baltic cruise out of Copenhagen on Serenade in May 2015.We stayed at the Admiral Hotel pre cruise,great location for Nyhavn and other attractions too. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Ahh..win..win for sure. Serenade and a northern Europe tour. It's planned for the future. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 3, 2018 #461 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) +1 i agree. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app +2. :) Too much crowding in the DL/CL...and it becomes a little more frequent with a quiet glass of wine on our balcony. We already get three free bottles delivered to our cabin with each week long cruise anyway. ;) :cool: And when Bucky brings me a nice chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc from our collection, I don't have to tip him either. ;) :D Edited May 3, 2018 by island lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted May 3, 2018 #462 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Are you sure they were not visiting Willy Wonka's place? ;)Much better. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 3, 2018 #463 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Much better. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Oooohh!! Better keep Bucky away from something like that. :eek:;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted May 3, 2018 #464 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Oh dear, I do apologize, obviously hit a raw nerve there. I am not sure it is up to fellow cruisers to make such recommendations. Thus such reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted May 3, 2018 #465 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Much better. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app When I worked abroad, Suchard and Tobler were my favourites. Probably all one company now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted May 3, 2018 #466 Share Posted May 3, 2018 When I worked abroad, Suchard and Tobler were my favourites.Probably all one company now Swiss and Belgium chocolates are fantastic.When i sold Anthon Berg one of their countlines was, 'Yankee bars'. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted May 3, 2018 #467 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) You do the math. It’s not that hard to figure. If ships sail with 500-1000 D and above, how does one cycle all of them through a lounge that has 80 seats? I agree , there is a certain niche of people, that depend upon the lounge time and free drinks. I don’t think they are the majority sailing today. Maybe on TA/TP and off season cruising, when fares are the cheapest. Royal has changed its target audience with the advent of their mega ships. People talk about the old days gone by and complain what has become. It might take you awhile to let it sink in, but your (meaning a certain set of cruisers) no longer the target cruisers Royal is hoping will fill their ships. The younger the top tiers become, and it’s happening now in front of you, want full time VOOM and drink packages. Sent from my iPhone using Forums TA Fares are the cheapest you say? Please allow me to share the two non refundable quotes I received last week for future TA, while on my current TA. Serenade ( not the newest ship in the fleet) 4/26/29 Ft. Lauderdale to Copenhagen, Standard balcony $ 6021.62 for 2 with $200 OBC. Not cheap but wait it gets "cheaper" Serenade 8/25/19 ( still 1 1/2 years out) Copenhagen to Boston, Standard Balcony (Guarantee) $17,415.54 for 2. and a $200 OBC. I was so shocked at the price I originally thought it was $1741. per person because there was no comma on the quote sheet ( $17415.54) and I thought there was no way it could be $17,000 for a balcony guarantee. Just for fun I priced an interior and it was over $11,000! Cheap you say? M Edited May 3, 2018 by cruisegirl1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted May 3, 2018 #468 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On Harmony we sat on Central Park listening to live music and used our vouchers at Trellis bar.In 7 years of DL use we have always had no problems getting a seat. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Our bar of choice for pre dinner cocktails on Oasis class. Central Park is beautiful and we like how so many "stroll" through the area. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted May 3, 2018 #469 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Our bar of choice for pre dinner cocktails on Oasis class. Central Park is beautiful and we like how so many "stroll" through the area. M I agree, Central Park was our favourite part of the ship and with 150 Central Park,Chops, Jamies and Park Cafe in the same area too was brilliant.We have been on Harmony 3 times in 2016 and hardly went into the DL preferring Central Park every night. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobo Posted May 3, 2018 #470 Share Posted May 3, 2018 TA Fares are the cheapest you say? Please allow me to share the two non refundable quotes I received last week for future TA, while on my current TA. Serenade ( not the newest ship in the fleet) 4/26/29 Ft. Lauderdale to Copenhagen, Standard balcony $ 6021.62 for 2 with $200 OBC. Not cheap but wait it gets "cheaper" Serenade 8/25/19 ( still 1 1/2 years out) Copenhagen to Boston, Standard Balcony (Guarantee) $17,415.54 for 2. and a $200 OBC. I was so shocked at the price I originally thought it was $1741. per person because there was no comma on the quote sheet ( $17415.54) and I thought there was no way it could be $17,000 for a balcony guarantee. Just for fun I priced an interior and it was over $11,000! Cheap you say? M Is that including air fares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted May 3, 2018 #471 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Is that including air fares. No. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine-O Posted May 3, 2018 #472 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Serenade 8/25/19 ( still 1 1/2 years out) Copenhagen to Boston, Standard Balcony (Guarantee) $17,415.54 for 2. and a $200 OBC. I was so shocked at the price I originally thought it was $1741. per person because there was no comma on the quote sheet ( $17415.54) and I thought there was no way it could be $17,000 for a balcony guarantee. Just for fun I priced an interior and it was over $11,000! Cheap you say? M That's the price, and that's just insane for anyone to pay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted May 4, 2018 #473 Share Posted May 4, 2018 TA Fares are the cheapest you say? Please allow me to share the two non refundable quotes I received last week for future TA, while on my current TA. Serenade ( not the newest ship in the fleet) 4/26/29 Ft. Lauderdale to Copenhagen, Standard balcony $ 6021.62 for 2 with $200 OBC. Not cheap but wait it gets "cheaper" Serenade 8/25/19 ( still 1 1/2 years out) Copenhagen to Boston, Standard Balcony (Guarantee) $17,415.54 for 2. and a $200 OBC. I was so shocked at the price I originally thought it was $1741. per person because there was no comma on the quote sheet ( $17415.54) and I thought there was no way it could be $17,000 for a balcony guarantee. Just for fun I priced an interior and it was over $11,000! Cheap you say? M And Suites are sold out. Used to be per night... I guess Royal is starting to beef up the popular cruises. Maybe cut down on upper tiers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted May 4, 2018 #474 Share Posted May 4, 2018 +2. :) Too much crowding in the DL/CL...and it becomes a little more frequent with a quiet glass of wine on our balcony. We already get three free bottles delivered to our cabin with each week long cruise anyway. ;) :cool: And when Bucky brings me a nice chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc from our collection, I don't have to tip him either. ;) :D My kinda of people.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted May 4, 2018 #475 Share Posted May 4, 2018 And Suites are sold out. Used to be per night... I guess Royal is starting to beef up the popular cruises. Maybe cut down on upper tiers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums O good lord. Give it a rest. Why all of the unhappiness, seriously. :rolleyes: JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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