Deployment 2020-21 booking season begins

[Hoopster95]

5 hours ago, travelgoddess1 said:

 

Does Quantum Class fit under Bridge of Americas? I think that has been addressed previously, but I don’t remember the answer.

 

I'm 100% convinced Q Class can fit...

Because if she can't, Ovation will be taking out the Lion's Gate Bridge in Vancouver next month.

Lion's Gate is a close replica of the BOA with almost the same mid-span height.

[rimmit]

Anyone look up the height of the Norwegian bliss?   It made it and it’s a similar size to the Ovation.

[Hoopster95]

Just now, rimmit said:

Anyone look up the height of the Norwegian bliss?   It made it and it’s a similar size to the Ovation.

 

Correct... they had to sail her under the bridge around 3am (or something like that) in order to match the lowest tides.

Ovation prob has the ability to retract the funnels as I witnessed on Quantum... I think she'll need to do that in Vancouver.

 

 

[Sunny AZ Girl]

6 minutes ago, Hoopster95 said:

 

Correct... they had to sail her under the bridge around 3am (or something like that) in order to match the lowest tides.

Ovation prob has the ability to retract the funnels as I witnessed on Quantum... I think she'll need to do that in Vancouver.

 

 

I am looking forward to being on the top deck for that!

[BillB48]

12 hours ago, rimmit said:

Anyone look up the height of the Norwegian bliss?   It made it and it’s a similar size to the Ovation.

 

According to  CC poster sjbdtz who had a bridge tour on the Bliss the day after the Canal transit, the figure was 198'.

 

Here is a link to a thread about the Bliss' Canal transit, he mentioned the 198' in post 33. Several pics of the ship clearing the BoA as well.

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2548146-back-from-bliss-p-canal-my-thoughts-and-suggestions-on-the-ship/

 

 

 

[ssb]

Industry Set to Grow to Over 500 Ships In Next Decade

 

April 03, 2019

The cruise industry will easily have over 500 vessels in service by 2027, up from some 404 this year, according to the 2019 Cruise Industry News Annual Report.

A record orderbook of more than 120 ships combined with a minimized withdrawal rate of one to two ships per year is guaranteeing that growth.

Add in the expected filling out of shipyard slots between 2023 and 2027, and the cruise industry could see upwards of 550 ships in service by 2027, and perhaps more if new yards continue to enter the business.

This growth rate has accelerated dramatically, as 220 ships were in service in 1998, according to Cruise Industry News data, and the industry’s annual market capacity was about a third of what it is in 2019.

Going by brands, MSC Cruises has the biggest growth plans of all with 14 ships on order, split between 10 megaships and four smaller, 1,000-guest luxury vessels as the company looks to dominate the high-end market.

Among the big industry players, giant Carnival Corporation has 20 ships on order from 2019, extending its own orderbook through 2024. Carnival has vessels on order for  nine cruise brands, including its joint venture with China State Shipbuilding Corporation.

Royal Caribbean Cruises has an orderbook including 15 ships, including five for its Royal Caribbean International brand, four for Celebrity, five for Silversea and a trio of vessels for TUI Cruises. Deliveries extend through 2026.

Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings’ growth plans have seven ships on order for the Norwegian brand, plus two for Regent and two for Oceania, totaling 11 ships on the orderbook. The Norwegian brand will get new Leonardo-class ship annually starting in 2022, with six ships spread out through 2027.

Other big growth plans include Torstein Hagen’s Viking Cruises brand, which will have some 18 ships in service by 2027, having launched ocean service with the Viking Star in 2015.

[John&LaLa]

Nice compression of the MSC ship. 

 

 

[ssb]

3 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

Nice compression of the MSC ship. 

 

 

 

Thanks for straightening out the photo .  Yes MSC has some beautiful ships. I cruised MSC Orchestra out of Genoa to Ft Lauderdale years ago on the inaugural voyage TA to US . MSC really put on the dog and pony show. Port intensive and excellent cultural food of European African and Caribbean with the country port of call . 

Interesting they have the biggest growth plans of all lines with 14 ships on order,  split between 10 megaships and four smaller. Interesting there are preliminary exploratory discussions with Port of Galveston Island Texas. MSC needs homeports for those ships.              

Edited April 4, 2019 by ssb

[Bernhard1974]

OASIS accident in drydock - crossing is canceled!

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/three-oasis-of-the-seas-cruises-canceled-due-to-drydock-casualty

[ssb]

On 4/4/2019 at 5:59 PM, ssb said:

 

Thanks for straightening out the photo .  Yes MSC has some beautiful ships. I cruised MSC Orchestra out of Genoa to Ft Lauderdale years ago on the inaugural voyage TA to US . MSC really put on the dog and pony show. Port intensive and excellent cultural food of European African and Caribbean with the country port of call . 

Interesting they have the biggest growth plans of all lines with 14 ships on order,  split between 10 megaships and four smaller. Interesting there are preliminary exploratory discussions with Port of Galveston Island Texas. MSC needs homeports for those ships.              

The next cruise line though into a galveston most likely will be Norwegian . 

Edited April 7, 2019 by ssb

[John&LaLa]

11 hours ago, ssb said:

The next cruise line though into a galveston most likely will be Norwegian . 

 

Don't be in a hurry to embrace more ships.

Traffic down here is getting worse every day. 

Hard to put the genie back in the bottle.

[springaussie]

Royal Caribbean and Carnival are using the Grain Terminal Fisherman Islands for the 20/21 season and not the new cruise terminal in Brisbane.  I assume it will not be finished on time.

( Info supplied by Royal Caribbean and Carnival phone bookings)

[geoff2802]

Thx for the update. 

If the new terminal isn't ready for any part of 20/21, Bris Ports has blown any trust they might have had with the cruise lines.  The next word will be that the project is over budget. 

Perhaps Royal was smart by making only a small commitment, unlike Carnival, who are all in.  Wonder if Carnival can sue for damages under the contract.  

 

 

 

 

[Esahuma]

Wondering when the RCI will announce 2021 British Isles?  

[Clarea]

16 minutes ago, Esahuma said:

Wondering when the RCI will announce 2021 British Isles?  

 

Sometime between Dec 2019 and Apr 2020.

[DDG 41]

2 hours ago, geoff2802 said:

Thx for the update. 

If the new terminal isn't ready for any part of 20/21, Bris Ports has blown any trust they might have had with the cruise lines.  The next word will be that the project is over budget. 

Perhaps Royal was smart by making only a small commitment, unlike Carnival, who are all in.  Wonder if Carnival can sue for damages under the contract.  

  

  

 

 

He has no evidence to support his claim. I'm sure if it was delayed Port of Brisbane would've announced it. it doesn't matter if it is over budget as it is a private investment. Also what benefits would carnival get by suing Port of Brisbane they might then not get favourable deals when there is future expansion.

[ssb]

Celebrity Orders Fifth Edge-Class Ship for 2024 Delivery

 

April 11, 2019

Royal Caribbean Cruises today announced that it has entered into an agreement with French shipbuilder Chantiers de l'Atlantique to order a fifth Edge-class ship for delivery in the fall of 2024, according to a press release.

"Edge class made an immediate hit with Celebrity Cruises guests and is a state-of-the-art example of technical excellence and elegant design," said Richard D. Fain, Chairman and CEO, Royal Caribbean Cruises. "We can't wait to build the next one."

"Celebrity Edge has delighted our guests and affirmed Celebrity Cruises as the leading modern luxury brand. Chantiers de l'Atlantique has been a brilliant partner and we look forward to creating another amazing vessel with them," said Lisa Lutoff-Perlo, President and CEO, Celebrity Cruises.

"We are really proud and happy to have built such an outstanding relationship with our customer, based on mutual trust and driven by the spirit of innovation," said Laurent Castaing, General Manager, Chantiers de l'Atlantique. "After the four Millennium-class ships at the beginning of 2000's and the four Edge-class ships, this is the ninth ship ordered by Celebrity Cruises at our shipyard and it will be the 24th vessel built by Chantiers de l'Atlantique and operated by RCL. This is a real testimony of the exceptional level of cooperation we reached together."

The Celebrity Edge was delivered in 2018. Three other Edge-class ships were ordered earlier and are scheduled for delivery in 2020, 2021 and 2022. This new order is contingent upon financing.

[lighthousemom]

Has anyone heard any updates regarding when Odyssey will be open for booking? 

[Clarea]

2 minutes ago, lighthousemom said:

Has anyone heard any updates regarding when Odyssey will be open for booking? 

 

Nothing from the cruise line.

[Ashland]

China opens this week...any idea what itineraries and ships are going to come out.

[geoff2802]

1 hour ago, Ashland said:

China opens this week...any idea what itineraries and ships are going to come out.

It has been delayed to the week of May 6.

[geoff2802]

Here is the updated flyer: 

[Ashland]

1 hour ago, geoff2802 said:

Here is the updated flyer: 

Well that figures....always something changing about schedule release.

[WaveSplasher]

On 4/30/2019 at 4:23 AM, Ashland said:

China opens this week...any idea what itineraries and ships are going to come out.

Quantum, Spectrum.

 

Same usual Japan, Philippines, Russia,  itineraries 

[Ashland]

2 hours ago, WaveSplasher said:

Quantum, Spectrum.

 

Same usual Japan, Philippines, Russia,  itineraries 

Not exactly what I was looking for...Interested in more China. I thought Asia/Singapore comes out end of May?

I would love to do the Singapore-Shanghai again on a Voyager class...not too keen on the Quantum/Spectrum class.