cruisefan2012 Posted August 22, 2018 #176 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My only comment on this matter is Its about time !!!!!!!!!!!! Never saw the point of paying extra to somebody for doing their job when they get paid by P&O already !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohnonotmeagain Posted August 22, 2018 #177 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My only comment on this matter is Its about time !!!!!!!!!!!! Never saw the point of paying extra to somebody for doing their job when they get paid by P&O already !! take cover:evilsmile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisefan2012 Posted August 22, 2018 #178 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I`m not scared of voicing my opinion on here - Whether I`m right or not is another matter... Dont even get me started on the P&O drinks packages - I sailed with Princess in May 2018, I dont do alcohol in any shape or form.. I had what Princess call "Unlimted Soda & More" I paid £45 something for as many fizzy drinks and hot chocolates as I wanted .... P&O want £19 a DAY !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted August 22, 2018 #179 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My only comment on this matter is Its about time !!!!!!!!!!!! Never saw the point of paying extra to somebody for doing their job when they get paid by P&O already !! Love people who rejoice hen they are going to have to pay more, one way or the other. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisefan2012 Posted August 22, 2018 #180 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I think the future lies with Princes Cruises Before anybody says anything, I didnt pay tips with them either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-L-B Posted August 22, 2018 #181 Share Posted August 22, 2018 That's true,a bottle of Old Speckled Hen and a glass of Prosecco[emoji106] [emoji482] Ah, a man after my own heart.:beer-toast::champagne-toast: That's the life !!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-L-B Posted August 22, 2018 #182 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Come to think of it there were no sweets in our cabin last week on Britannia. We did have chocolates and a “flower” though! Actually I think they stopped the sweets some time ago. No sweets on Oceana in April and none on Aurora last November.:( Still chocolates though.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted August 22, 2018 #183 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I think the future lies with Princes Cruises Before anybody says anything, I didnt pay tips with them either Why not? Sent from my SM-T580 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 22, 2018 #184 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Actually I think they stopped the sweets some time ago.No sweets on Oceana in April and none on Aurora last November.:( Still chocolates though.:) I sell chocolate so I have plenty anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules. Posted August 22, 2018 #185 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I sell chocolate so I have plenty anyway. Hubby tried the P and O chocolate, he said it was bleugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisefan2012 Posted August 22, 2018 #186 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Wowzz I didnt pay tips on Princess because I chose not too Cruisefan2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-L-B Posted August 22, 2018 #187 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Hubby tried the P and O chocolate, he said it was bleugh They are not that bad. As I consider myself to be a chocoholic I can assure you I have tasted a lot worse.:) When on board I always make a point of looking in the Horizon to find out when the Chocolate buffet is available, yummy.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-L-B Posted August 22, 2018 #188 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I sell chocolate so I have plenty anyway. Wow, you have plenty of chocolates. They wouldn't last long with me around.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 22, 2018 #189 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My customers love the samples I give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-L-B Posted August 22, 2018 #190 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My customers love the samples I give them. That's very intriguing, Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory springs to mind.:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 22, 2018 #191 Share Posted August 22, 2018 That's very intriguing, Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory springs to mind.:D:DMy MIL is 96 with dementia and she watches that film every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplesea Posted August 22, 2018 #192 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Good news, for us as we are booked for July next year. I am wondering though will they be as generous with OBCs or will they become a thing of the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboo Posted August 22, 2018 #193 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Like many others, I feel that you are just being provocative for the sake of it and whilst I almost cannot be bothered to rise to the bait, I would like to make a few points that challenge your assertion that staff will lose out and service levels will drop as a result of this change, as I believe that the opposite may be the case. Yes, some people who opted out of auto grats and tipped in cash may well no longer do so. I would suggest, however, that many (like us) will continue to cash tip for 'over and above' service. BUT I would suggest that for everyone who used to opt out and tip in cash but now stops, an equal (or more likely greater) number will start to cash tip when they didn't before. These will, in the main, be people who paid the auto service charge (either willingly or because they didn't know that you could remove it - or didn't feel comfortable doing so), were very happy with the service but felt no need to cash tip anyone as the service charge had 'taken care of it'. Many of these people are likely to feel awkward that they aren't recognising good service from those they have got to know (cabin stewards, waiters etc) and are, I would suggest, now more likely to now offer a cash tip, even though P&O state that it isn't expected. It's just human nature. The truth is that we just don't know, but P&O aren't daft and they would have thought all this through. It would not be in their interest to implement something that would cause their staff to be worse off as they will vote with their feet and leave. As for service, I think this policy change will result in an improvement in service. With no passengers having paid a service charge, the likelihood of individual staff members receiving cash tips for good service will increase IMO and there will be a great incentive for them to go 'above and beyond'. I have been critical of P&O over many things over the years, but for once I applaud them. They have listened to the not insignificant numbers of us who have written to them, called them or articulated on the 'opt out' forms on board why we have felt that service charges should be removed and incorporated into the fare. Frankly, I don't care how they recoup this money - I suspect that it will be through a number of things (though not a compulsory service charge) but it means that, at long last, every passenger pays equally and anyone who wishes to cash tip on top can do so if they wish and it need be of no concern to anyone else. The only people who I can see would object to this policy change are those who opted out of the service charge and paid no cash tips, but I'm afraid that I have no sympathy with those people. So, nothing to argue about really, but then again......... Brilliantly put...you have summed it all up so well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emam Posted August 22, 2018 #194 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My customers love the samples I give them. If you have any going spare, I am just an easy drive down that big "A" road. Lol.;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-L-B Posted August 22, 2018 #195 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My MIL is 96 with dementia and she watches that film every day. I am sure it adds a little happiness to her day. (y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan Posted August 23, 2018 #196 Share Posted August 23, 2018 As someone else said, that would be a PR disaster It's way more likely they would just increase future fares to cover it, as that isn't so obvious and will cause less complaints. Sent from my SM-G930F using Forums mobile app What many on here don’t realize is fares can’t be raised to cover this. Now that the tips you pay are part of the price, when P&O compete on the reservation systems the prices for P&O include tips while other lines exclude mandatory tips. This will put P&O at a competitive disadvantage on online reservation systems. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 23, 2018 #197 Share Posted August 23, 2018 What many on here don’t realize is fares can’t be raised to cover this. Now that the tips you pay are part of the price, when P&O compete on the reservation systems the prices for P&O include tips while other lines exclude mandatory tips. This will put P&O at a competitive disadvantage on online reservation systems. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Carnival will raise fares to pay for included tips, they did in Australia for Princess/P&O. No way Carnival will pay the service crew a cut from revenue as gratuity allotment. User Pay !!! The Pax !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 23, 2018 #198 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Good news, for us as we are booked for July next year. I am wondering though will they be as generous with OBCs or will they become a thing of the past? OBC could go or be reduced and god forbid the tea making facilities in the cabin might even go too, or the bikkies at least. Ye Gods, there will be a riot at Southampton.:loudcry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 23, 2018 #199 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Nevertheless, earlier I could not resist checking out what a balcony cabin I have already booked, (for post this new innovation), costs today. Wow, a cool £911.00 per person: an increase of 25.3% on the original. Of course Sir Richard, your donation to the tipping pool, called User Pay. No way Carnival will wear it from the general revenue. Can we blame Brexit ? :loudcry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 23, 2018 #200 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why not? Sent from my SM-T580 using Forums mobile app Because he chose not too. Passengers choice. Standby for incoming :rolleyes::loudcry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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