HUNKY Posted September 2, 2018 #1 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Doing some web research I have found that cruise ship captains most likely earn between 150 to 200K USD per year. That seems awfully low for someone in charge of a ship costing over a billion dollars and having thousands of "souls" onboard. Are they also paid bonuses dependent on how profitable, or not, a particular voyage is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted September 2, 2018 #2 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I don't think that is awfully low. Consider that they usually work 3 months, off three months, work three months and off three months (this doesn't include the world cruise captain). So they are only working 6 months of the year compared to many of us who got (or get 3 - 4 weeks off a year). Don't know if they get bonuses. Our first jobs we didn't get bonuses. Second jobs did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD5ZA Posted September 2, 2018 #3 Share Posted September 2, 2018 If you think 150-200k is low, please consider the pay of a USN Captain who might be the commanding officer of an air craft carrier that costs MANY billions of dollars, has 6000+ sailors, no time off and possibly be in a war zone. If the captain has 20 years service the base pay is about $125k. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysfrantic Posted September 2, 2018 #4 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Their room & board are covered during time on duty. (But I know they maintain a home on land) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiz'nBaers Posted September 2, 2018 #5 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Never was curious about this, none of my business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bnxshs Posted September 2, 2018 #6 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I don't think that is awfully low. Consider that they usually work 3 months, off three months, work three months and off three months (this doesn't include the world cruise captain). So they are only working 6 months of the year compared to many of us who got (or get 3 - 4 weeks off a year).Don't know if they get bonuses. Our first jobs we didn't get bonuses. Second jobs did. That's the same argument people use to justify the low pay of teachers. It doesn't acknowledge that captains and teachers work far many more hours during the periods they are "working" than most people realize, which is something many professionals do, of course. I know many teachers who work without pay to keep their certifications active and updated during their "summers" and I'd bet many captains do the same during their "off" months too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcdonaldbam Posted September 2, 2018 #7 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Obviously the Captains don't think their salaries are low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted September 2, 2018 #8 Share Posted September 2, 2018 My only thought is that they have made a decision to do this type work. If a higher income is their priority then they could pursue other options. In the case of Mariners, the most lucrative job is probably being a harbor pilot in a place like NYC or San Francisco. We are more curious as to why so many cruisers seem concerned about the income of employees on cruise ships :). Everyone working on a ship has made their own decision to seek those jobs. It is not our responsibility to question their decisions or think that is our obligation to increase their level of compensation. I wonder how many of these same folks are concerned about the salary of their tour bus driver :) But if you want a shocker you might consider that some of those "Longshoreman" that you tip to take your luggage in US Ports...are making as much or more then the Captain of your cruise ship! Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted September 2, 2018 #9 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Never gave it any thought. I'm also not interested in how much airline pilots get paid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avian777 Posted September 2, 2018 #10 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Never was curious about this' date=' none of my business.[/quote'] Never gave it any thought. I'm also not interested in how much airline pilots get paid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (y)(y)(y) My sentiments exactly. However, if OP will tell us what she/he does for a living and how much she/e is compensated, I would be happy to weigh in on that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avian777 Posted September 2, 2018 #11 Share Posted September 2, 2018 My only thought is that they have made a decision to do this type work. If a higher income is their priority then they could pursue other options. In the case of Mariners, the most lucrative job is probably being a harbor pilot in a place like NYC or San Francisco. We are more curious as to why so many cruisers seem concerned about the income of employees on cruise ships :). Everyone working on a ship has made their own decision to seek those jobs. It is not our responsibility to question their decisions or think that is our obligation to increase their level of compensation. I wonder how many of these same folks are concerned about the salary of their tour bus driver :) But if you want a shocker you might consider that some of those "Longshoreman" that you tip to take your luggage in US Ports...are making as much or more then the Captain of your cruise ship! Hank (y)(y)(y) Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted September 2, 2018 #12 Share Posted September 2, 2018 We are not in the least bit curious. It is difficult to equate someone's value to society to their salary or their earnings. The system does not work that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetheworld67 Posted September 2, 2018 #13 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I am sure HAL would be happy to increase the pay to their Capitanos.....and of course pass this increase along to the passengers!;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 2, 2018 #14 Share Posted September 2, 2018 None of my business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 2, 2018 #15 Share Posted September 2, 2018 No Captain ever asked my DH how much he earned (that i know of) It is none of my business wht gthedy earn ND i really don't wan t to know. Why the fascination on these forums, waht do gtewards earn / Wht does c aptain earn ? What does your rtash collector earn? NOT my concern or businesss. Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 2, 2018 #16 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Looking only at the stated "salary" is just part of the full compensation package. One needs to also include benefits like health care and retirement, as well as cruise travel perks for family members, costs of room and board provided, proffessional development, uniforms, travel costs to assignment locations, and onboard expense accounts. Many of which are tax-free. What are the total costs to the cruise line for each position is the better way to evaluate the actual employee compensation package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 2, 2018 #17 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Looking at simple decency. and courtesy .... why is it our business ? IIMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted September 2, 2018 #18 Share Posted September 2, 2018 None of my business! Correct, sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted September 2, 2018 #19 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Never gave it any thought. I'm also not interested in how much airline pilots get paid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You’d be apallled! A regional jet pilot can make around $18k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 2, 2018 #20 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) How much pay is enough for someone responsble for the lives an safety of thousands of souls, week, afgter week, afger week? Havaing to command staff and crfew of thousnads/ Being responsbile for multi billion dollrf shps? How many nights are wswe asleep and ccaptan is on ghe brigee? sURE, HEA THOUGHT H e would sleep, but he is never ' off duty' when on the ship. A cfrew peson gegts hurt, wshwo is immediagely notified. extend the lisgtgof possibilities.. HOW MUCH is enugh salary ? Sure there are b ridge officers but there is ONE Captain. Waht rime does his morning sttart and his night s top?? EVERY day for monhs Edited September 2, 2018 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted September 2, 2018 #21 Share Posted September 2, 2018 We are more curious as to why so many cruisers seem concerned about the income of employees on cruise ships :). But if you want a shocker you might consider that some of those "Longshoreman" that you tip to take your luggage in US Ports...are making as much or more then the Captain of your cruise ship! Well, if curiousity leads to such interesting facts, these are worthwhile threads IMHO. Why would cruisers concern themselves with salaries on a ship? Of course nobody asks about the income of a police officer on a cruise forum, they'd go elsewhere. So it might seem that people are more interested in salaries on a ship than any other job where in reality people just wonder what money you can make when doing X and simply ask in the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 2, 2018 #22 Share Posted September 2, 2018 The real money makers apparently are the port pilots - a very tightly controlled organization, and from what I heard, about $400K a year packages. Jumping from pilot boat to ship on the high seas is not for the faint of heart. But it remains debatable in these days now of electronic navigation and instant communications how valid these onboard positions wiil remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 2, 2018 #23 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Being aware of personnel costs is very much everyone's business since passengers are the sole source of cruise ship revenues. This can be general, and not specific. But just as much a part of the conversation as fuel costs and port fees. Rising personnel costs are one of the largest cruise line expenses, particularly when competition for labor in the global economies increases. Instead of blaming ships for "nickel-diming, under-staffing, cutting back on maintenance or quality of offerings, etc, etc", a sober understanding of cruise line personnel costs needs to be added to this conversational mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted September 2, 2018 #24 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Really, in the whole scheme of things what do you think the impact to our fare if the captain's salary was increased by $100K a year? Do you think that this would impact our fare or that knowing it would enter into our decision making process? Besides, why discuss crew salary levels on this forum when we have zero impact over them and indeed they are not in our purview. Do you feel the same way about airline salaries-pilot, flight crew, ground crew, mtce, reservations,marketing??? We have no interest in costs. We are only interested in the net fare that we pay. Does not matter to us who is paid what. Besides,given all the cuts I have no doubt that there is money in the expense pot to pay senior staff salaries at a competitive level. Not interested in what the Captain's salary is, the airline pilot's, or indeed the neighbor next door. We are strictly MYOB. Edited September 2, 2018 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted September 2, 2018 #25 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Being aware of personnel costs is very much everyone's business since passengers are the sole source of cruise ship revenues. This can be general, and not specific. But just as much a part of the conversation as fuel costs and port fees. Rising personnel costs are one of the largest cruise line expenses, particularly when competition for labor in the global economies increases. Instead of blaming ships for "nickel-diming, under-staffing, cutting back on maintenance or quality of offerings, etc, etc", a sober understanding of cruise line personnel costs needs to be added to this conversational mix. Your logic escapes me :). So lets take it at face value. By your reckoning, when you go into any restaurant (anywhere in the world) you should be made aware of the salaries of the waiters, maitre'd, and other staff...since the customer is their sole source of revenue? And when you go on an airliner you should also be made aware of the salaries of the flight attendants, pilots, etc? Speaking of restaurants if we go to an "understaffed" restaurant or they decide to nickel and dime us by charging for ice cubes, pats of butter, etc. we simply do not ever return to that restaurant. We do not try to become social workers and inquire as to why they are charging us for ice cubes, how much they pay their staff, etc. How about when you go to a hotel, Should you be interested in the wages of the desk clerk, chamber maid, bell hops,etc. or...do you need a "sober understanding" of the the hotel personnel costs. How about when you take your car to a mechanic. Should you have a "sober understanding" of the mechanics wages, insurance benefits, what he/she eats for lunch, etc? A cruise ship is simply part of a large corporation and their employees/contractors choose to work for that company who chooses to employ them. Issues related to their income are their business...not our business. Am also wondering when you go to your physician do you ask him/her about their income? How about their office staff? Do you tip your physician or agree to "auto tips" for him/her? Just fruit for thought. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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