Credit for days at sea

[Saint Greg]

11 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

How many of those are cruise lines?

 

What I’m saying is I don’t understand why cruise lines are different from everyone else.

[BlerkOne]

4 minutes ago, Poppy42 said:

Have you been looking at my stock portfolio?  I didn't retire in my 50's because I spent money foolishly.

 

How much you have or spend is irrelevant. You are not in the majority, and you do not represent Carnival's bread and butter.

[pc_load_letter]

9 minutes ago, JennyB1977 said:

Fare plus alcohol?

Yes please!

 

I guess my card color or status does not matter ultimately to me. It was cool when I got gold and I love seeing the silver and black cards when on Carnival but I don't view it as a race.

 

Since probably our second cruise, my wife and I get Cheers so I don't care much what our freebies are. The only thing that bugs me are some of the spa\retreats that now require an additional cost for things like steam rooms.

 

No bother though. My wife usually gets some many perks when we book, I could care less what color I am. On an NCL cruise this year, we got booze package, wifi and $250 in sbc that we used for dining. I could have cared less what level I was at with NCL.

[Saint Greg]

35 minutes ago, JennyB1977 said:

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, JennyB1977 said:

Saint Greg - I was thinking about that. Why do I feel there is a difference? I think....because credit card or rewards programs are simply based on dollars. For example $1000 dollars spent = 100 points

 

In the case of a cruise, it seems basing it on cabin class seems elitest. Suites = 2 points per day, Interior = 1 point per day, Captains Suite = 3 point per day. I think my initial reaction was based on that it seemed tied to "class". That bothers me...

 

I wouldn't mind if Carnival used the first approach. $1000 spent = gold, $2000 spent = platinum, etc.

 

But then where does it end. Is it $1000 spent on fare, does it include your entire folio, do flights booked through F2F count?

 

I think 1 day at sea = 1 point is fair. 

 

I think dollars spent is better than cabin class. That would give someone who is paying for a room during peak times more points than someone who is buying the same cabin for less during a non-peak time. I think getting credit for drinks, dining, excursions would be great. Yeah I’d rather give incentive to someone to buy their drinks and excursions from me rather than someone else.

Edited October 30, 2018 by Saint Greg

[BNBR]

7 hours ago, JennyB1977 said:

You are making the argument that status should be awarded on dollars spent not days at sea. That seems a bit elitest. Not everyone can, or is willing, to spend $2,000 on a balcony. If done your way, those that are able to sail in a Havana Cabana would get status faster. The current program is, in my opinion, fair. A day at sea is a day at sea regardless of $$$.

 

 

 

Dollars spent is almost the entire reason behind "status"... They are a business.  Of course people who spend more should get more points.  Just like booking a suite on Royal you get double points.  If someone is booking Havana, they should get extra points, too.  Sounds great.  What wrong with being a bit elitist?  That's how society works in almost every way.

[ProgRockCruiser]

Well, let's imagine the opposite:

 

"Why do I get less points than the folks who spent more money to get a nicer cabin?  That's the whole point: they paid for the nicer cabin and of course it cost them more money!  That is the perk - the nicer cabin, there shouldn't be an additional reward!  I'm trying to show my loyalty by booking as many days of my life as I can with Carnival, but I'm not as 'loyal' as the folks staying in a suite because they have more money?!"

 

So, no matter what, it will not please anyone.

 

Frankly, I find Carnival's system to be a nice balance.  YMMV.  Obviously.

[PhillyFan33579]

4 hours ago, hockeyguru32 said:

IMHO a day at sea is just that a day at sea no matter what cabin you're in. YOU choose what cabin you're in so WHY should you be rewarded by spending money when the set up for loyalty perks is DAYS AT SEA?

 

If you want loyalty for what you spend go on those ships that allow you to do that. You might as well go on MSC where they match your status to whatever loyalty card you are on.

 

No one should be rewarded because they have more money.

 

Not sure where you live, but more money equates to more rewards in the USA. Are you saying I shouldn’t be rewarded with a nicer car because I decided to spend more on a BMW than buying a Kia?

[PhillyFan33579]

1 hour ago, Poppy42 said:

Have you been looking at my stock portfolio?  I didn't retire in my 50's because I spent money foolishly.

 

Earlier in this thread you said you could cruise more often if you stayed in interior cabins. That doesn’t really match up with this comment. 

[coevan]

2 hours ago, pc_load_letter said:

The only thing that bugs me are some of the spa\retreats that now require an additional cost for things like steam rooms.

 

 

 

The steam rooms are free. Even ships with Cloud 9 have free steam rooms, not as nice, but they are free steam rooms. I also love the showers with the sideways heads. I always use the showers after a steam while my wife hogs the bathroom in our cabin.

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, BNBR said:

 

Dollars spent is almost the entire reason behind "status"... They are a business.  Of course people who spend more should get more points.  Just like booking a suite on Royal you get double points.  If someone is booking Havana, they should get extra points, too.  Sounds great.  What wrong with being a bit elitist?  That's how society works in almost every way.

 

That's how entitled people think. Yes, Carnival is a business but  their target market is not the elite and entitled, but rather novice, fun cruisers. There are millions more of them with a lot less grousing, contributing more money to Carnival's bottom line.

[BlerkOne]

27 minutes ago, PhillyFan33579 said:

 

Not sure where you live, but more money equates to more rewards in the USA. Are you saying I shouldn’t be rewarded with a nicer car because I decided to spend more on a BMW than buying a Kia?

 

If you spend more, you purchased more. You are rewarded with higher insurance payments. You don't get priority at toll booths over a Kia.

[BNBR]

1 minute ago, BlerkOne said:

 

That's how entitled people think. Yes, Carnival is a business but  their target market is not the elite and entitled, but rather novice, fun cruisers. There are millions more of them with a lot less grousing, contributing more money to Carnival's bottom line.

 

It's actually the opposite of "how an entitled person would think." An entitled person thinks they deserve and are entitled to all the same benefits without having the same skin in the game. 

 

Of course spending more money should bring additional benefits.  Why is this even a controversial topic?  Not saying to reduce the benefits for those who book interiors, but nothing wrong with extra points for those who book suites.

[BlerkOne]

6 minutes ago, BNBR said:

 

It's actually the opposite of "how an entitled person would think." An entitled person thinks they deserve and are entitled to all the same benefits without having the same skin in the game. 

 

Of course spending more money should bring additional benefits.  Why is this even a controversial topic?  Not saying to reduce the benefits for those who book interiors, but nothing wrong with extra points for those who book suites.

 

If your heart transplant costs more than another person's, what extra benefits do you feel entitled to?

[BNBR]

3 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

If your heart transplant costs more than another person's, what extra benefits do you feel entitled to?

 

You are both buying the same thing...  You aren't making the point you think you are making. 

[coevan]

6 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

If your heart transplant costs more than another person's, what extra benefits do you feel entitled to?

 

 

 

Blerk, that's a pretty weird analogy

[BlerkOne]

Two people pay different prices for the same category inside cabin. Should one receive more benefits?

 

Sometimes an inside cabin costs more than and ocean view. Should one receive more benefits?

 

 

[BNBR]

18 minutes ago, coevan said:

 

 

 

Blerk, that's a pretty weird analogy

 

We can play along though.  I would expect less waiting time, nicer hospital room with better service, private, more experienced surgeon, etc. 

[BNBR]

15 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Two people pay different prices for the same category inside cabin. Should one receive more benefits?

 

Sometimes an inside cabin costs more than and ocean view. Should one receive more benefits?

 

 

 

I have been pretty clear that I'm referring to suites and maybe premium options like Havana.  I agree with the way other lines do it where suites get bonus points.  I don't agree with OP who thinks a balcony should get more vs inside. 

[Saint Greg]

34 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

If your heart transplant costs more than another person's, what extra benefits do you feel entitled to?

 

Do hospitals have loyalty programs?

[BNBR]

1 minute ago, Saint Greg said:

 

Do hospitals have loyalty programs?

 

Yes, actually they do.

[Saint Greg]

4 hours ago, Saint Greg said:

 

Almost every other loyalty/rewards program I can think of it based on $. My credit card gives points for $ spent not times used. My Moe's app gives me points for $ spent not number of visits. Someone gambling $100/hand at a casino is going to get more points than the guy wagering $5/hand.

 

I thought of one while I was in the Whataburger line today...whataburger gives you a reward for every 5 visits...no matter what you buy. They are definitely in the minority though. 

Edited October 31, 2018 by Saint Greg

[Nic6318]

Hi Poppy

 

I keep responding to posts like this that typically sound like "Why does this company do things this way, as opposed to the way I would like?" 

 

You could ask similar questions about any company. The answer is simple...It works for them. 

 

If your question is a form of complaint, then, why don't you do something about it? There are many other cruise lines to choose from and some even do as you suggest you like. Why on earth wouldn't support them instead. 

 

Complaining here just doesn't give you results. Especially on an issues like this where if you took a poll, many would not agree with you. 

 

You are the customer, if you don't like the way a company does business, find a company where you do. 

 

hope this this helps

[Saint Greg]

2 minutes ago, BNBR said:

 

Yes, actually they do.

 

You can probably answer the question then. Does your hospital give you the same reward points for a triple bypass as it does for an ear infection?

[BNBR]

1 minute ago, Saint Greg said:

 

You can probably answer the question then. Does your hospital give you the same reward points for a triple bypass as it does for an ear infection?

 

No idea. I have concierge medicine so I don't deal with any of that.  I just know that patient loyalty programs is a "thing". 

[Lottacruises]

10 hours ago, Poppy42 said:

We are gold and approaching diamond.  We always take a balcony cabin usually on the higher decks.  Why does Carnival award days solely on the number of days sailed?  Why should a person in an inside cabin get credit for as many days as a person in a balcony or stateroom?  If we took an inside cabin we could have sailed on more cruises - we are retired and live within 2 to 3 hours of all Florida ports so we have the time.  

 

If you're so worried about it then book the inside and go more.