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Hi, for a while we have been pricing up Princess cruises but have always been 'beaten' by the price.

For some background, we have sailed on Celebrity and P&O - often in aft cabins.

We have seen a 14 night cruise on the Enchantment of the Seas and it is coming out as £3,600 per person for an aft cabin on C deck

No flights, no discounts and no perks

 

We are just taken aback at the price as we have already booked Celebrity Edge for 2019 in one of their E2 Infinite Veranda cabins for 11 nights with

a 3 night stay in Rome and all transfers PLUS a Classic Drinks Package for £7200.

 

We have e-mailed Princess and didn't really get much of a response other than to say that they were a premium line. They suggest we go for a £50 per person per day AI if we want a package. Well that would add £1,400 to the bill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is £8,600 before we even add the flights and transfers --- and not even for a deluxe cabin

 

What we want to know is, is Princess really that good that they can justify these prices and be even more expensive than Celebrity's new ship ??

 

We LOVE the look of Princess itineraries and loved Britannia (the P&O sister ship) but the prices always make us look elsewhere

 

PS We are stuck to school holidays so can not make use of late deals etc

 

 

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No, Princess is not that great that you should pay much more than Celebrity. 

 

We are US folks, so we have different booking rules. Because of This we receive various OBC, departure ports, etc that make Princess attractive. 

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Which Princess cruise ship?  Enchantment of the Seas is a RCCL ship.  Enchanted Princess won’t set sail until 2020, and while new ships usually command. Premium price, they really are not worth it.  Check out the current ships sailing on the same itineraries to compare.

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I do no think it is worth that price.  There are deals ....sometimes.  Some deals offer a perception of a discount, some are real discounts.  Unfortunately in the UK you cannot re-fare as easily as we can in USA.   Princess prices are based on supply and demand.  Sometimes they have am amazing deal, and sometimes not so great.  My experience with Princess has been that if I book as soon as the itinerary is released that is usually the best price I'm going to find.  There have been a few occasions where I was able to refare with the 3 for free or Sip n sail, but then there are cases where that is not so.  This year for instance, we booked a Christmas cruise the day the itinerary was released.  We paid well above (more than double!) what the cruise is currently going for and since it's past final payment we have no recourse.  So, if this is a sign of a hurting economy, then perhaps it will pay to wait until after final payment.  

That Celebrity Edge looks amazing and the prices I see are a bit too high for me right now, but it looks awesome!!

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1 hour ago, Colo Cruiser said:

Enchantment of the seas?   :classic_ohmy:

No wonder they "didn't really get much of a response" from Princess!

 

Seriously, I presume they meant Enchanted Princess - as a previous poster pointed out,

new ships command a premium in their maiden seasons, especially in the Med.

 

 

 

MARK

 

 

 

 

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I don't think Princess is worth that much more than Celebrity. I usually price out different cruises in similar cabins and choose whichever fits our wants and budget best between Princess, Celebrity, and Holland America. The onboard amenities don't make enough difference between the three cruise lines to pay a whole lot extra to pick one over the other. We've tended to book more Princess cruises because I can usually get them at a better price than the other two lines once we figure in the value of our past passenger perks.

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All things being equal, room category, itinerary and new ship,  Princess should not be a great deal more than the other mass market lines. They are all more the same than different.

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 Comparing "apples to apples"  (cabin catorgory, ship, itinerary, etc. ) we've found Princess to be the best deal for us.   :classic_cool:

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Unless this is a brand new ship, very unusual for Princess to be priced so high.  I do live in the US, so maybe it is different overseas, but we find really great deals on Princess, more so than on Celebrity (usually).

 

If it is the new Enchanted Princess, due in 2020, new ships are often very expensive for there first year or so.  And no, to me it would definitely not be worth it!

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10 hours ago, cherylandtk said:

... while new ships usually command. Premium price, they really are not worth it.  ...

 

Especially these new Princess ships. We really hate the deck 7 layout.

 

Princess and Celeberity are  prices rather comparably in the US and are generally agreed to be a similar experience. 

 

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26 minutes ago, MauiLvrs said:

Princess and Celeberity are  prices rather comparably in the US and are generally agreed to be a similar experience. 

 

We both grew up watching the Love Boat ... So maybe that skews our preferences ...

But it is the love boat ... and who woulen’t want to be on the love boat ?:classic_biggrin:

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With Princess, we usually book in advance and get the Premier Beverage Package included at no cost. In addition, we get $500 to $700 per cruise OBC. With that, we have an onboard bill that is nearly nothing.

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book last minute, always a steal to be had. i even see christmas cruises for under 1000 for 7 days out of FLL for balcony

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We generally pay less for Princess then Celebrity, but pricing does vary by the cruise (supply and demand).  We notice that the OP is located in the UK where the "rules" are completely different then what we have here in North America.  Consider that Princess allows the "stacking" of On Board Credits (OBCs) while Celebrity does not!  So I might pay $2000 for a Princess cruise but manage to get $700 of OBCs through various means (gifts from our cruise agent, stockholder credit, veterans credit, etc).  So that $2000 cruise actually costs me $1300!  But with Celebrity say I pay $1900 (for the same type accomodation) but only get $200 OBC.   Bottom line is for those of us who shop around for the best deals, all is not what it seems at first glance.

 

Another factor is what has happened to Celebrity since Lisa Lutoff-Perlo took over as their CEO.  She made it clear from the outset that Celebrity was pricing too low...and she quickly took steps to increase the price per passenger day.  She also does a great job muddying the waters by the use of various promos....many of which are valued at high prices so that it makes folks think they are getting a good deal when they are actually getting screwed :(.  Another problem with Celebrity is that under the current LLP reign, there have been a multitude of onboard cut-backs in items related to both staffing and perks.  some of these cut-backs were very small, but others are more obvious.  As a tiny example, once upon a time you could go to the Lido for lunch on Celebrity and find a large bowl of large shrimp.  Try finding that today.  Ironically, we stopped in the Horizon Court on the Regal Princess last week (the last full day of our cruise) and Princess has a large special buffet which included a huge bowl of very large shrimp (there was a long queue).  

 

Hank

 

 

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In Horizon Court, we had the large bowl of large shrimp on the Royal Princess last month.

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18 hours ago, Presto2 said:

Hi, for a while we have been pricing up Princess cruises but have always been 'beaten' by the price.

For some background, we have sailed on Celebrity and P&O - often in aft cabins.

We have seen a 14 night cruise on the Enchantment of the Seas and it is coming out as £3,600 per person for an aft cabin on C deck

No flights, no discounts and no perks

 

We are just taken aback at the price as we have already booked Celebrity Edge for 2019 in one of their E2 Infinite Veranda cabins for 11 nights with

a 3 night stay in Rome and all transfers PLUS a Classic Drinks Package for £7200.

 

We have e-mailed Princess and didn't really get much of a response other than to say that they were a premium line. They suggest we go for a £50 per person per day AI if we want a package. Well that would add £1,400 to the bill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is £8,600 before we even add the flights and transfers --- and not even for a deluxe cabin

 

What we want to know is, is Princess really that good that they can justify these prices and be even more expensive than Celebrity's new ship ??

 

We LOVE the look of Princess itineraries and loved Britannia (the P&O sister ship) but the prices always make us look elsewhere

 

PS We are stuck to school holidays so can not make use of late deals etc

 

 

 

Not for you Brits.  

You will be getting the short end of the shaft with that cost.  Better for you to choose another cruise line that fits your budget.  There are many cruise lines to choose from.

Good luck.

King

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Yes and no.  If one wants to get the maximum amount for dollars spent, then Carnival would be the answer.  But if one is looking for a bit more, more sophistication, beautiful ship, great entertainment, and interesting fellow passengers from all over the world, than Princess is definitely worth the money.

We tend to book a mini-suite and have booked club class which makes it even more expensive.  But most recently we were on the Regal Princess, Baltic Cruise, and we had a fantastic time. 

 

Would highly recommend Princess....as well as Celebrity.

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I hope we haven't made a bad decision.  A vacation, either a cruise or a stay at a resort is what you make it.  We've never really complained and have "gone with the flow" on all past cruises.  We've cruised since 2003, on NCL, RCL and recently on Celebrity, the Equinox and Silhouette.  Just out of curiosity, I compared the cost of booking a cruise on Celebrity, same category, cruise length; and season, compared what we get from Princess on our March 2019 cruise and what we would have gotten if we booked on Celebrity. Celebrity has much more to offer in regards to perks and service.  Princes:  you better show your "stuff" next March and live up to the rave reviews that I've read!  I hope you don't disappoint us!

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22 hours ago, Presto2 said:

Hi, for a while we have been pricing up Princess cruises but have always been 'beaten' by the price.

For some background, we have sailed on Celebrity and P&O - often in aft cabins.

We have seen a 14 night cruise on the Enchantment of the Seas and it is coming out as £3,600 per person for an aft cabin on C deck

No flights, no discounts and no perks

 

We are just taken aback at the price as we have already booked Celebrity Edge for 2019 in one of their E2 Infinite Veranda cabins for 11 nights with

a 3 night stay in Rome and all transfers PLUS a Classic Drinks Package for £7200.

 

We have e-mailed Princess and didn't really get much of a response other than to say that they were a premium line. They suggest we go for a £50 per person per day AI if we want a package. Well that would add £1,400 to the bill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is £8,600 before we even add the flights and transfers --- and not even for a deluxe cabin

 

What we want to know is, is Princess really that good that they can justify these prices and be even more expensive than Celebrity's new ship ??

 

We LOVE the look of Princess itineraries and loved Britannia (the P&O sister ship) but the prices always make us look elsewhere

 

PS We are stuck to school holidays so can not make use of late deals etc

 

 

 

At £3,600, the aft cabin you mention will likely be a Premium Deluxe Balcony so will be slightly larger with sofa and with a larger balcony.

 

Launch fares are always higher. Currently a 14 night cruise in October 2019 on the Sky Princess which went on sale six months ago is £3,199 in a mini suite including ‘free’ flights. We booked this cruise when launched at higher prices but have since re-priced saving a total of around £1,000 from the original price in a combination of price reduction and OBC. We’ll do the same with our Enchanted Princess booking in due course.

 

Like people have alluded to, unlike the US, in the UK we can only re-price once and pay £50 per person for the privilege therefore you must choose wisely when re-pricing because if another better offer turns up later on you won’t be able to change again not without cancelling and losing your deposit and the £50 per person re-pricing fee.

 

The Enchanted Princess launch fares (in fact all of the 2020 fares) do seem higher than ever and are encroaching on Viking prices. The Princess product is a very good one. We find it much better than P&O for various reasons and would definitely pay a premium. As to whether the premium is worth the current 2020 launch fares, it’s debatable. I would suggest waiting for six to twelve months before booking to see if prices fall or pay the £50 deposit now to ensure you get the cabin you want and re-price in due course.

 

The Enchanted Princess looks like it will be a stunning ship and we cannot wait to sail on her. For us, stepping on a Princess ship is like coming home.

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Thanks folks. It is interesting that someone has said that this is encroaching on Viking prices. With offers we are getting it is also encroaching on Oceania prices and 6 months out they are offering free excursions, all select dining, and flights. I know that Princess is a good cruise line and we would very much like to sail with them. I always think of them as up market from P&O and in line with Celebrity.

 

I just can't justify these prices -- particularly when there seem to be no perks at all and no OBC etc etc.

 

Shame

 

 

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We sail both Celebrity and Princess in ~ equal measures. We have seen the prices increase on both lines in recent years, with the odd bargain to be had occasionally. Since Celebrity frequently offer their drinks package included, overall it tends to make Princess more expensive in comparison. Here in the UK, Princess very rarely offers perks or OBC. Prices for new ships always command a premium, and are best booked upon release as the price then tends to go up due to supply and demand (as in the Edge prices). 

The bottom line is that as long as the cruise companies can sell the cabins at a higher price, and make more profit for their shareholders, we will not see the prices coming down. It is mainly in areas saturated with cruise ships that you start to see the 'bargains'. 

 

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For those prices, I'd look into Azamara and Oceania.  So much is included with their prices and the ships are smaller and more intimate.  They can get into smaller, less over-run ports too.

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We like Princess and have been on many Princess cruises.  However, our past several cruises have been either RCI or Celebrity.  When I ask about Princess, Mrs. Ldubs says their prices are too high.  I don't have details because I don't do the booking but I do kind of miss Princess.  

 

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1 hour ago, downsmead said:

We sail both Celebrity and Princess in ~ equal measures. We have seen the prices increase on both lines in recent years, with the odd bargain to be had occasionally. Since Celebrity frequently offer their drinks package included, overall it tends to make Princess more expensive in comparison. Here in the UK, Princess very rarely offers perks or OBC. Prices for new ships always command a premium, and are best booked upon release as the price then tends to go up due to supply and demand (as in the Edge prices). 

The bottom line is that as long as the cruise companies can sell the cabins at a higher price, and make more profit for their shareholders, we will not see the prices coming down. It is mainly in areas saturated with cruise ships that you start to see the 'bargains'. 

 

 

Hi, we always booked really early for any cruises - as soon as they are out. We have done this with P&O and Celebrity and it saves us a lot of money. These lines always have extra perks.

Have looked at Princess now for 2020 and the prices are just sky high and no perks .......

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I don't think this will make a difference but Princess allows agents to discount Princess. You can save about 10% in cruise fare (not taxes) by going with an agent who discounts.

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"Is Princess worth the cost?"

 

That depends on what you're willing pay. There are a multitude of variables to consider and these vary for different people.

 

In a nutshell -

Cruise pricing is based on supply and demand. The lines (all) will charge what the traffic will bear.

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1 hour ago, Coral said:

I don't think this will make a difference but Princess allows agents to discount Princess. You can save about 10% in cruise fare (not taxes) by going with an agent who discounts.

While this is true in North America, there are different rules for those on the other side of the pond (the OP is from England).  We are still able to get some great deals on Princess, but it comes from shopping around, using the right cruise agent, and taking advantage of all the various OBC options.  Some of this is not an option in England.

 

Hank

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5 minutes ago, Hlitner said:

While this is true in North America, there are different rules for those on the other side of the pond (the OP is from England).  We are still able to get some great deals on Princess, but it comes from shopping around, using the right cruise agent, and taking advantage of all the various OBC options.  Some of this is not an option in England.

 

Hank

Sorry - I missed OP is from UK. Thanks for adding this.

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13 hours ago, Presto2 said:

 

Hi, we always booked really early for any cruises - as soon as they are out. We have done this with P&O and Celebrity and it saves us a lot of money. These lines always have extra perks.

Have looked at Princess now for 2020 and the prices are just sky high and no perks .......

I have several cruises booked to 2020. I expect that next summer (2019), Princess will offer the Sip & Sail package. In the past (living in the US), I have been able to at the S&S at no extra cost to these bookings that are in a balcony or higher.

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Having reread all of the above:

 

Thanks for your many replies and for those of you who have recognised that we are from the UK :-)

 

We really would love to sail with Princess but we simply can not afford the prices. As a professional couple we have a good income but just can not justify the prices that the cruise line is asking for with NO perks and NO discounts at all.

 

Once upon a time any points from P&O counted towards Princess but they have now stopped that too so we have lost those perks as well.

 

We do our research and are very aware that Princess looks like a great cruise line. Also admit that Celebrity is no longer what it once was and P&O is not perfect. Imagine that no cruise line is.

 

I just don't get the high prices at all .... they can't be that much better than Celebrity !!! Can we justify spending £6,500 on a cruise, plus £1000 flights, plus £1400 for a drinks package and then any speciality restaurants. Add the cost of excursions on top of all of this.  All for just a 2 week holiday? They must be having a laugh !!! NO chance on our decent wage.

 

PS If we got the name of the ship wrong, sorry, and thanks for those of you who knew what we meant :-)

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On 11/14/2018 at 7:31 AM, paul929207 said:

With Princess, we usually book in advance and get the Premier Beverage Package included at no cost. In addition, we get $500 to $700 per cruise OBC. With that, we have an onboard bill that is nearly nothing.

Would you mind sharing how you get these deals??  

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2 hours ago, GSLMOM said:

Would you mind sharing how you get these deals??  

I book 1 to 2 years in advance and get a balcony cabin. Under the terms of the Sip & Sail, my TA adds the PBP to our reservation. We did it for 1 cruise last year and 3 this year. We have also done it for 4 cruises next year and 4 in 2020. In every case, S&S was added at no additional cost.

 

Note that you must have a balcony or higher cabin to get the S&S

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10 hours ago, Presto2 said:

Having reread all of the above:

 

Thanks for your many replies and for those of you who have recognised that we are from the UK 🙂

 

We really would love to sail with Princess but we simply can not afford the prices. As a professional couple we have a good income but just can not justify the prices that the cruise line is asking for with NO perks and NO discounts at all.

 

Once upon a time any points from P&O counted towards Princess but they have now stopped that too so we have lost those perks as well.

 

We do our research and are very aware that Princess looks like a great cruise line. Also admit that Celebrity is no longer what it once was and P&O is not perfect. Imagine that no cruise line is.

 

I just don't get the high prices at all .... they can't be that much better than Celebrity !!! Can we justify spending £6,500 on a cruise, plus £1000 flights, plus £1400 for a drinks package and then any speciality restaurants. Add the cost of excursions on top of all of this.  All for just a 2 week holiday? They must be having a laugh !!! NO chance on our decent wage.

 

PS If we got the name of the ship wrong, sorry, and thanks for those of you who knew what we meant 🙂

 

Any P&O cruises booked before 13 December 2017 would count towards the Princess loyalty programme.

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11 hours ago, Presto2 said:

Having reread all of the above:

 

Thanks for your many replies and for those of you who have recognised that we are from the UK 🙂

 

We really would love to sail with Princess but we simply can not afford the prices. As a professional couple we have a good income but just can not justify the prices that the cruise line is asking for with NO perks and NO discounts at all.

 

Once upon a time any points from P&O counted towards Princess but they have now stopped that too so we have lost those perks as well.

 

We do our research and are very aware that Princess looks like a great cruise line. Also admit that Celebrity is no longer what it once was and P&O is not perfect. Imagine that no cruise line is.

 

I just don't get the high prices at all .... they can't be that much better than Celebrity !!! Can we justify spending £6,500 on a cruise, plus £1000 flights, plus £1400 for a drinks package and then any speciality restaurants. Add the cost of excursions on top of all of this.  All for just a 2 week holiday? They must be having a laugh !!! NO chance on our decent wage.

 

PS If we got the name of the ship wrong, sorry, and thanks for those of you who knew what we meant 🙂

 

 

We have a totally difference experience to you. Next year, we are sailing 13 nights on Princess for less than 7 nights on Edge (whose pricing has been ridiculous, IMHO); it was a no brainer for us. We also obtained discounts for the Princess cruise too. Now we have 2 X placeholders to use, but I’m not using them just for the sake of it when the price difference is so big. 

 

I’d compare options across the board of all the different cruise lines. Ensure you do take all the offers into consideration when you are comparing pricing though (I think there was a large OBC offer on the U.K. pricing for booking Europe and low deposits 🤔). The release prices are sometimes eye-watering and you need to take that into consideration as well. 

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Hi

I am also in the UK looking to book a Princess cruise in August 2020. I have just been quoted over £4k ($5250) for 3 day Denali Explorer and 1 week cruise, flights and midship balcony cabin. On the tour we would need to buy food as well.It seems excessively high to me. Would I be better waiting? I wouldn't mind paying that much for a suite. TIA

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Hi OP, 

we are also from UK, sailed Princess, P&O and Cunard.  Booked on Princess next year to Norwegian Fjords.  For  the next few years we need a no-fly cruise in school holidays, so quite restricted!  

We price compared  P&O, Princess and Cunard, similar itinerary, school summer holidays, similar positioned cabin etc and included the daily service charge into our costing (P&O are "removing" it as an extra from next year - so included in the price).

We found that Cunard was the cheapest by a large margin, but my partner isn't keen on Cunard.  P&O was the most expensive.

 

The cost of cruise can fluctuate quite a bit so don't write a cruise line off based on one cruise, especially when its a maiden voyage.   Many travel agents, even the  "standard" high street ones can typically offer 10% discount and Princess do often offer OBC.  

 

HTH

 

 

 

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On ‎11‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 8:03 AM, villauk said:

 

 

We have a totally difference experience to you. Next year, we are sailing 13 nights on Princess for less than 7 nights on Edge (whose pricing has been ridiculous, IMHO); it was a no brainer for us. We also obtained discounts for the Princess cruise too. Now we have 2 X placeholders to use, but I’m not using them just for the sake of it when the price difference is so big. 

 

I’d compare options across the board of all the different cruise lines. Ensure you do take all the offers into consideration when you are comparing pricing though (I think there was a large OBC offer on the U.K. pricing for booking Europe and low deposits 🤔). The release prices are sometimes eye-watering and you need to take that into consideration as well. 

 

Hi, we always book early and do the 'like for like' thing but on this one there are no offers at all. I did e-mail a Princess Cruise Specialist and he could not give me any offers, just to tell me they are a premium line (I know) and that they tried they AI package once an nobody wanted it. He then said that an AI package is about £50 pppd which, for how much we drink is not worth it at all.

 

If I thought that Princess was in the same league as Oceania etc I could understand the price but from doing some research it doesn't seem to be. Oh well, will keep looking and see if any of those offers appear :-)

 

Thanks to everyone for responding to my original question, may be hanging around on here more often :-)

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As we already pointed out, pricing is somewhat different for those in the UK/EU then it is for those of us in North America.   We are always doing price/value comparisons and it has an impact on how we book.  Those that keep a very open mind (forget all this loyalty stuff) there are some amazing deals on both mass market and even ultra luxury lines.  But one can also use some "innovation" to keep cost within reason.  For example, we just (yesterday) booked our first Seabourn cruise in Alaska, because the cost was very reasonable considering the type of product that Seabourn delivers.  But when it came to both hotels in Alaska and visiting Denali, we simply did this on our own for a fraction of the cost charged by any cruise line.  We have generally found that cruise lines charge at least double the cost for land packages, then if you do similar stuff on your own.  In the case of Denali it is a simple matter to rent a car at Anchorage and drive yourself to a hotel in the Denali area.  At that point you can either tour the park on your own (they even have free buses within the park) or can book day tours with various tour providers.

 

It is the same with nearly all cruise lines.  Take a look at what any cruise line charges, per night, for a pre or post cruise hotel (making sure to look at the cost for two persons) and then price-out the same or similar hotels/transfers on your own.  You will usually be able to halve the cost of what is charged by the cruise line.  And the little things really add up.  Last week we disembarked the Regal in Port Everglades.  Princess charged $19 per person for transfers to FLL.  A taxi (much faster then using a Princess transfer) cost us $17 (which included tip) for that same transfer....which is $8.50 per person or less then half the cost of the Princess transfer.  And we did not have to sit around a bus until it was ready to go, or make the long walk at the airport from the bus drop point to our airline.  It is the same in most ports around the world (there are some exceptions to the rule).

 

Hank

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Hi,we are platinum on Princess and have been lucky enough to see most of the world with them.We sail purely on itineraries and our last 3 cruises have been on P&O,Cunard and Marella.We were researching Iceland ,14 days from Southampton next year and Marella worked out 2000 quid cheaper than Princess.Even with our FCC and shareholder OBC.Marella,although the food is not as good as Princess,but IMO better than P&O,being AI with no grats is a no brainer for us.Plus their "new" ships are bigger and better than the old ones,cheers,Brian.

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