JFontaine Posted April 18, 2019 #76 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Date of Cruise: 4/7/19 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 9200 Deck #: 9 Cabin Category: S3 Cabin Location: In between the carpet - middle of the four suites BesPosition: faces forward Balcony Type: open Balcony Size: Standard S3 Balcony Obstruction: one thin pole Balcony Overhang?: no Magic Carpet Issues?: did not hear or see it move Noise Issues?: no Wind Issues?: no Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: yes, connects to an inside cabin via a vestibule that closes and locks. This is the perfect cabin for a family traveling with children. Suite Details: Perfect mid-ship location, no noise from hall as this is set back from the hall with a door that closes and locks Advantages/Problems/Comments: midship location and very quiet Would You Book It Again?: yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Norwaylady Posted April 20, 2019 #77 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 11/23/2018 at 4:05 PM, vtcruising said: Date of Cruise: 14.april and 21.april 2019 b2b Ship: Edge Cabin #: 6115 Deck #: 6 Cabin Category: Deluxe ocean view veranda Cabin Location: Fwd Bed Position: By the balcony Balcony Type: Porthole Balcony/Window Size: Same as infinity stateroom Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: Yes, you have a camera pod on your right hand side when looking out. Not to bad. Balcony Overhang?: No, but floor that are not walking area for 3,5m after the barrier. Magic Carpet Issues?: No Noise Issues?: Yes, lots of noise from Teater. Lots of base from music Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? No Advantages/Problems/Comments: Lots of noise during daytime from the Teater when they rehearse and every time they have a show in the night. Bathroom and sleeping area is vibrating according to the music played. Not good if you need it to be quiet. If you are a light sleeper and like to go to bed early, you are in trouble...... Would You Book It Again?: NO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtcruising Posted April 20, 2019 Author #78 Share Posted April 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Norwaylady said: Balcony Overhang?: No, but floor that are not walking area for 3,5m after the barrier. Thank you for the great information on the theater noise in your cabin. No one has reported that yet here so it is good for people to know. I am sorry that you had to listen to that noise. I am not totally clear on the statement above about the floor and 3.5 m after the barrier. Are you talking about the deck (floor) outside your balcony? Were there people walking by out there? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Norwaylady Posted April 20, 2019 #79 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, vtcruising said: I am not totally clear on the statement above about the floor and 3.5 m after the barrier. Are you talking about the deck (floor) outside your balcony? Were there people walking by out there? Thank you! Yes, the deck outside the balcony. As you can see on the pictures, the balcony do not go all the way to the end of the ship. So you have this platform area in front. So you can not see directly down into the ocean. And you can not walk. The area is closed for public, it is only maintenance personnel that will enter. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtcruising Posted April 20, 2019 Author #80 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norwaylady said: Yes, the deck outside the balcony. As you can see on the pictures, the balcony do not go all the way to the end of the ship. So you have this platform area in front. So you can not see directly down into the ocean. And you can not walk. The area is closed for public, it is only maintenance personnel that will enter. Thanks for the explanation and great pictures! We haven't had pictures here of the view from those forward deck 6 cabins so it is great that you shared pictures. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oville Posted April 20, 2019 #81 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Date of Cruise: April 7, 2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 10207 Deck #: 10 CabinCategory: AQ1 Cabin Location: Midship Bed Position: By Bath Balcony Type: IV Balcony/Window Size: IV Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: None Balcony Overhang?: Magic Carpet Issues?: No Noise Issues?: Occasionally could hear band playing on pool deck. WindIssues?: None Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: Advantages/Problems/Comments: Good location/Pool deck noise Would You Book It Again?: Yes Photos or Photo Links: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Posted April 29, 2019 #82 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Date of Cruise: April 14, 2019 Ship: Celebrity Edge Cabin #: 11251 Deck #: 11 Cabin Category: Concierge Category C3 Cabin Location: Port Aft Bed Position: By Bath (head of the bed on the left side) Balcony Type: Infinite Verandah Balcony/Window Size: Floor to Ceiling 'Window' Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: None Balcony Overhang?: None Magic Carpet Issues?: No Noise Issues?: No Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: N/A Suite Details: Advantages/Problems/Comments: Short walk to aft elevator/stairs … walk up past deck 12 to deck 14 to Oceanview Café Would You Book It Again?: Yes Photos or Photo Links: Edited April 29, 2019 by FM 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo70 Posted April 30, 2019 #83 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Date of Cruise: April 14, 2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 12152 Deck #: 12 Cabin Category: Sky Suite (S3) Cabin Location: Mid-Ship Bed Position: Away from Balcony Balcony Type: Regular Balcony (Not IV) Balcony/Window Size: Good Sized Balcony - Width & Depth; we had two chairs, two loungers, a large table and a small table - was a bit cluttered with all this furniture, but still some room to move around. Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: View is Obstructed Looking Forward (as Magic Carpet structure juts out significantly deeper than the balcony does; the 12th floor end S3's do NOT have a forward looking window like the S3's on lower decks). When the Magic Carpet is parked on deck 14 (which is just one deck up, since there is no Deck 13) the view looking up (and to a lesser extent looking out) is obstructed by the ceiling and spikes of the Magic Carpet. Balcony Overhang?: Lots of overhang even when the Magic Carpet is not on Deck 14. Magic Carpet Issues?: Enjoyed watching the Magic Carpet when it would move, but did not like the degree of obstruction that occurred when the Magic Carpet was on Deck 14 (which was somewhat frequent). Noise Issues?: Lots of noise from the pool deck; when live music was playing up there it could be heard even inside the suite with the door closed. The Magic Carpet generates some noise while moving, but only lasts a few minutes and is not too terribly loud; the noise from the pool deck was significantly worse - was bad enough to be a nuisance at times, but not awful. Wind Issues?: The balcony does a good job blocking much of the wind. Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Connecting Cabins Suite Details: Large bathroom; plenty of storage in bathroom and living area, but main closet is very close to the bed - making it a bit awkward to use. Plenty of outlets. Great mid-ship location and very convenient to Luminae and the Retreat Lounge/Pool. Not crazy about the furniture (sofa rather hard/stiff and no comfortable chairs for relaxing in the suite). Advantages/Problems/Comments: Best advantage is location, biggest problem is noise from the pool deck and obstructed views (described above). Would You Book It Again?: I would book an S3 again (assuming savings versus a S2), but would prefer an end S3 on Deck 8, 9 or 10 to minimize obstructions caused by the Magic Carpet as well as to minimize noise issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovetahiti Posted May 1, 2019 #84 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Date of Cruise: 04/14/2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 6214 Deck #: 6 Cabin Category: Panoramic Ocean View Cabin Location: By Aft elevators Bed Position: By the bathroom Balcony Type: none Balcony/Window Size: Floor to ceiling size Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: Very obstructed by lifeboat Balcony Overhang?: n/a Magic Carpet Issues?: n/a Noise Issues?: None. It was surprisingly quiet, but we usually sail in a balcony cabin. We really missed the closeness of the sea - the sound, the breeze, the sunrise and sunset. Wind Issues?: n/a Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: Advantages/Problems/Comments: This cabin should be discounted due to the unpleasant obstruction. Would You Book It Again?: Never - not even if discounted. I am booked on a RCCL (Royal) balcony in 4 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeMates Posted May 7, 2019 #85 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Date of Cruise: 4-21-28, 2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 3191 Deck #: 3 Cabin Category: Not sure. Cabin Location: Just off aft elevator, very convenient Bed Position: By window Balcony Type: Balcony/Window Size: Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: Balcony Overhang?: Magic Carpet Issues?: Noise Issues?: None at all. Located under Casino, but never heard anything. Wind Issues?: Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: Advantages/Problems/Comments: Loved the location. Didn't need elevator unless going up to deck 14. Would You Book It Again?: Absolutely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJH Posted May 8, 2019 #86 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Date of Cruise: 1/13-2/10/2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 6177 Deck #: 6 Cabin Category: E3 Cabin Location: Port Midship Bed Position: by bath Balcony Type: IV Balcony/Window Size: standard Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: overlooking open deck between lifeboat and al fresco dining area for Prime Cut Steakhouse. Balcony Overhang?: No Magic Carpet Issues?: N/A Noise Issues?: No Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: Advantages/Problems/Comments: Good location midway between the elevator banks and close to the entertainment decks. Would You Book It Again?: Yes Photos or Photo Links: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch-snowbirdy Posted May 16, 2019 #87 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) On 11/23/2018 at 10:05 PM, vtcruising said: Date of Cruise: 4-28-2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 3150 Deck #: 3 Cabin Category: 07 Cabin Location: Between the orange stripes were the magic carpet moves Bed Position: Balcony Type: - Balcony/Window Size: Small window Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: No Balcony Overhang?: No Magic Carpet Issues?: Noise Issues?: Yes Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: No Advantages/Problems/Comments: We had a few nights and days noise issues in our cabin technicans could not find out where noise came from it was like banging on iron pipes. After a few days of complaining we got an other cabin (3169) at the other side of the ship. Would You Book It Again?: NO Photos or Photo Links: Edited May 16, 2019 by dutch-snowbirdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkroad Posted May 16, 2019 #88 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Date of Cruise: 28 April 2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 12194 Deck #: 12 Cabin Category: C2 Cabin Location: Midship, starboard Bed Position: near closet Balcony Type: IV Balcony/Window Size: Full size Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: thin pole on one side Balcony Overhang?: yes, moderate overhand of deck 14 Magic Carpet Issues?: N/A Noise Issues?: Some from deck 14. Occasional bass reverberation/music from pool deck. Occasional stomping overhead. Neither of these bothered us, as we were up late anyway. Most bothersome was the three nights of loud creaking in the ceiling above the bed, which we realized was caused by the expansion/contraction of the ship as she rolled from side to side in moderate swell (approximately 7 meters or 23 feet). The rolling wasn't bothersome at all (like being rocked to sleep). The usual creaks and rattles of a ship at sea were also no problem, but the loud creaking kept me awake for a long time one night (though DH slept like a happy baby lol). The loud creaking was not present on the other 12 nights of our cruise, because the sea was calmer. Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: N/A Advantages/Problems/Comments: Midship location very convenient for trotting up to OVC, El Secondo Bacio, the track, and other public areas of decks 14 & 15. The cabin is located under the Deck 14 Ladies Room & entrance to OVC, so there is very little noise of chairs or loungers being dragged around overhead. There are no crew closets or stairways nearby. Noise issues are noted above. We considered the overhang advantageous in FL because we had less direct sun in the cabin, and when it was raining or drizzling. However, the overhang was quite annoying when we were trying to take photos. Would You Book It Again?: Possibly. I would not book another IV unless the new veranda chairs (on order) render the veranda easier to use without moving furniture to reach the window controls or close the bifold doors. Should those issues be resolved, I would not book an IV for a cruise in a warm/hot climate, but I would consider one (including this specific cabin, though it wouldn't be my first choice because of the overhang) for some itineraries, but only for the right price. Photos or Photo Links: Edited May 16, 2019 by Silkroad 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare C-Dragons Posted May 16, 2019 #89 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) On 11/23/2018 at 4:05 PM, vtcruising said: Date of Cruise: April 28, 2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 12260 Deck #: 12 Cabin Category: Sky 1 Suite Cabin Location: Starboard side on the Aft Bed Position: Against the Starboard side wall Balcony Type: Traditional balcony Balcony/Window Size: Very large Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: None Balcony Overhang?: Small overhang providing some protection from sun and rain. Magic Carpet Issues?: Not applicable Noise Issues?: Some noise on two nights from crew cleaning the area outside the OceanView Cafe. Called Guest Relations and it was promptly stopped. Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: No Suite Details: Nice spacious suite with great bathroom. Advantages/Problems/Comments: Storage space is challenging for longer cruises. Furniture on the balcony is still not adequate for eating/enjoying breakfast outside. Our Butler came to the rescue and provided us with a very nice table so we could eat comfortably. A coffee table has been added inside the cabin, but it is too low to use for eating. We were advised that the coffee tables, as well as the balcony tables would be replaced soon. Would You Book It Again?: Yes, have already booked for a B2B. Photos or Photo Links: Edited May 16, 2019 by C-Dragons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatSomeMore Posted May 16, 2019 #90 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Date of Cruise: April 28, 2019 Ship: Edge Cabin #: 10202 Deck #: 10 Cabin Category: S2 Sky Suite Cabin Location: Mid ship - close to aft elevators Bed Position: Facing ocean Balcony Type: Large - 2 chairs and lounge Balcony/Window Size: large Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: None Balcony Overhang?: Slight Magic Carpet Issues?: N/A Noise Issues?: Yes, during the day and night with barely rough seas a loud metal noise, sounded like two steel cables rubbing together. Took audio of it to Guest Relations. They said it was the way the ship was built and there was nothing to be done. Two nights without sleep due to this. Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: N/A Suite Details: Very spacious, great bathroom, more than adequate storage. Advantages/Problems/Comments: Loved the room, hated the noise. Our neighbors and other suites in this area experienced the same issue. Would You Book It Again? no Photos or Photo Links: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkroad Posted May 17, 2019 #91 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) VT, I just noticed that you changed my cabin location to “aft” on the spreadsheet. This is a mistake if you want to maintain remain consistent with the other cabin spreadsheets, which use Celebrity’s location designation. Celebrity lists that cabin as midship. Thanks, M🌺 Edited May 17, 2019 by Silkroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtcruising Posted May 17, 2019 Author #92 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Silkroad said: VT, I just noticed that you changed my cabin location to “aft” on the spreadsheet. This is a mistake if you want to maintain remain consistent with the other cabin spreadsheets, which use Celebrity’s location designation. Celebrity lists that cabin as midship. Thanks, M🌺 I have been labeling cabins by the aft elevators as "aft". I just checked the X website and it looks like they start calling them aft at the bump out on deck 12219 and 12220. I guess I should label them the same. I will need to go through and fix many of them. 🙂 Thanks!! Edited May 17, 2019 by vtcruising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtcruising Posted May 19, 2019 Author #93 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) After Silkroad pointed out that Celebrity labeled her cabin near the aft elevators as midship, I went to the Celebrity website and went deck by deck checking what was considered forward, aft and midship on the Edge. I marked the results in red below. Interesting, it is almost always different on each deck, depending on how the cabins are categorized (midship cabins are a usually a higher category and cost a little more). It looks like they categorized the cabins and then assigned fore, mid and aft, instead of the other way around. I will use Celebrity's website categorization to be consistent and have changed all the ones that were previously not consistent with Celebrity's website. Thanks, Silkwood, for pointing it out! Note: The deck plan above is incomplete as far as venues, but the cabins categories match up. Here is a link to a complete, usable deck plan: https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/assets/deckimages/org/www.cruisedeckplans.com-deckplan.php-ship=Celebrity-Edge.png Edited May 19, 2019 by vtcruising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not bored onboard Posted May 20, 2019 #94 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Date of Cruise: 4-28 Ship: edge Cabin #: 7190 Deck #: 7 Cabin Category: E4 Cabin Location: midship starboard Bed Position: near balcony Balcony Type: IV Balcony/Window Size: standard Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: suite nex door bumped out a bit. 15% obstructed if looking in that direction Balcony Overhang?: no Magic Carpet Issues?: it passed in front of us when changing position. not a problem. No one on it while it moved. Fun to watch Noise Issues?: creaking sound at times Wind Issues?: no Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: no Suite Details: NA Advantages/Problems/Comments: liked it Would You Book It Again?: No. Would avoid an obstructed view even though it wasn't much 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkroad Posted May 20, 2019 #95 Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/19/2019 at 10:20 AM, vtcruising said: After Silkroad pointed out that Celebrity labeled her cabin near the aft elevators as midship, I went to the Celebrity website and went deck by deck checking what was considered forward, aft and midship on the Edge. I marked the results in red below. Interesting, it is almost always different on each deck, depending on how the cabins are categorized (midship cabins are a usually a higher category and cost a little more). It looks like they categorized the cabins and then assigned fore, mid and aft, instead of the other way around. I will use Celebrity's website categorization to be consistent and have changed all the ones that were previously not consistent with Celebrity's website. Thanks, Silkwood, for pointing it out! Note: The deck plan above is incomplete as far as venues, but the cabins categories match up. Here is a link to a complete, usable deck plan: https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/assets/deckimages/org/www.cruisedeckplans.com-deckplan.php-ship=Celebrity-Edge.png Thanks Vt. This is very illuminating. I see that, excepting the lowest passenger deck, the cabins X has designated as midship do encompass what I call the midship (called aft on this ship) elevator. We also need to consider the part of the ship that’s underwater when trying to figure out true midship. To add to the confusion, I’m 99% positive that the rear elevators are called the “Midship Elevators” on S class ships. Also, having walked every passenger deck numerous times, I can say that it’s a much shorter walk from the forward elevators to the cabins nearest the bow, than it is from the midship aka aft elevators to the SV cabins and aft suites. I wish X would return to the more logical elevator name (midship). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JoePDX Posted May 20, 2019 #96 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Date of Cruise: 4/28/2019 (Transatlantic) Ship: Edge Cabin #: 8314 Deck #: 8 Cabin Category: SV Cabin Location: Aft Bed Position: Near Balcony Balcony Type: Standard open aft with glass balcony wall which is angled. Balcony/Window Size: Large. I also believe that the two center SVs (8314 and 8323 on deck 😎 are wider that the other SVs due to the fire wall that separates them (in our case the fire wall was between 8312 and 8314. Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: None Balcony Overhang?: Yes, approximately 50-60% of the balcony is covered by the balcony on the deck above. Magic Carpet Issues?: No - stateroom is no where near the Magic Carpet Noise Issues?: None, very quiet and surprisingly very little vibration. Most pronounced when aft thrusters in use during docking. Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: Not a connecting stateroom, but balcony can be connected with 8323 Advantages/Problems/Comments: Approximately 3-4 feet longer than a standard stateroom. So there was 3-4 feet between the side of the bed and the veranda door. Balcony does get soot from the funnels, not extensive, but you would need to wipe down the chairs and railing to ensure it doesn't stain your clothes. Balcony is large enough for a lounger. I did notice that 8323, also a SV, did have at least one lounger. I suspect it was a special request. No traffic outside in the hallway. There is a swinging door (with round window) in the hall between 8314 and 8323. Would You Book It Again?: Yes, definitely. Photos or Photo Links: 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mma Posted May 22, 2019 #97 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Date of Cruise: April 28, 2019 Ship: EDGE Cabin #: 8308 Deck #: 8 Cabin Category: S1 Cabin Location: Corner Aft Bed Position: Near Bathroom, facing wall Balcony Type: Sliding glass doors - Very large Balcony/Window Size: Extra large, very deep Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: None Balcony Overhang?: Yes, from suite balcony above Magic Carpet Issues?: No Noise Issues?: No Wind Issues?: No Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: Yes, It can connect through shared hallway door but we kept that unlocked so only had to open our main door. Suite Details: Bed was great, bathroom had separate toilet area and large tub with shower; couch was nice to sit on. Big low table in room. Balcony had two loungers and two comfortable chairs and a small table for drinks. Advantages/Problems/Comments: Loved this room. It is a long walk to elevators, Lumina and the Retreat Lounge but we loved that so we could walk off some of the calories! Would You Book It Again?: Yes Photos or Photo Links: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Gail Sails Posted May 23, 2019 #98 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) On 11/23/2018 at 4:05 PM, vtcruising said: This thread is for Edge cabin information compilation. ... Would You Book It Again?: Photos or Photo Links: Date of Cruise: 28 April 2019 Ship: Celebrity Edge Cabin #: 11274 Deck #: 11 Cabin Category: SV Cabin Location: Aft Bed Position: Near Balcony. Balcony Type: Sunset veranda (true balcony) Balcony/Window Size: Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: View of ship's wake and horizon. No obstruction Balcony Overhang?: Balcony is partially sheltered and partially open. Magic Carpet Issues?: None Noise Issues?: Minimal noise from deck 14 (eating area). Wind Issues?: None (sheltered) Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: Suite Details: Advantages/Problems/Comments: Those with mobility problems may find the walk to the elevators or stairs long but we found no issues with the cabin or the location. Would You Book It Again?: Yes Edited May 23, 2019 by Pale Gail Sails 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auntlene Posted May 28, 2019 #99 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Date of Cruise: April 28, 2019 Ship:Celebrity Edge Cabin #: 3186 Deck #: 3 Cabin Category: 08 Cabin Location: aft-starboard Bed Position: between bath and couch Balcony Type: none Balcony/Window Size: oceanview Balcony/Window View/Obstruction: no obstruction Balcony Overhang?: n/a Magic Carpet Issues?: n/a Noise Issues?: heard waves hitting ship sometimes Wind Issues?: no Connecting Cabin? Where Does it Connect?: no Suite Details:n/a Advantages/Problems/Comments: close to Tuscan & Normandie Restaurant's and customer service and elevators. Would You Book It Again?: already did Photos or Photo Links: --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckiestmanonearth Posted May 29, 2019 #100 Share Posted May 29, 2019 To the OP, great thread. We’ve never cruised Celebrity and contemplating sailing on the Edge next March Should we stay away from decks 6 and 12 since they are above and below what look to be busy public area decks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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