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Yes, I have bought them from Amazon and they help but they end up falling out of my ear during the night.  One long cruise I ended up sleeping in the bathroom with the door closed and another cruise I was sleeping by the pool.  Security came by during the night and asked if I was ok and not a stowaway.  LOL

 

I know a CPAP machine may help but I get pushed back on that.  I just deal with it.

 

 

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MalbecWine, my husband pushed back about being diagnosed with Sleep Apnea until he found out that it can cause stroke and heart attack.  Then he went straight to our doctor, was tested, diagnosed and received a CPAP machine.  That was back in the days when the TSA treated them like they were bombs and your security clearance took forever while they checked the machine out.  Today it's very different; they hardly pay any attention to them.  Plus I have slept comfortably with him for years and he feels he sleeps much better, which he does.

 

To be honest, your husband's health and longevity might actually rely on a CPAP machine.

 

P.S. Sorry to get off subject but the Sleep Apnea thing truly is a serious health issue.

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26 minutes ago, sobellejanet said:

To be honest, your husband's health and longevity might actually rely on a CPAP machine.

 

Yes - the guys all carrying their CPAP machines at the airport are a sight to behold - a badge of honour. On a serious note they can save your life!

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3 hours ago, MalbecWine said:

Yes, I have bought them from Amazon and they help but they end up falling out of my ear during the night.  One long cruise I ended up sleeping in the bathroom with the door closed and another cruise I was sleeping by the pool.  Security came by during the night and asked if I was ok and not a stowaway.  LOL

 

I know a CPAP machine may help but I get pushed back on that.  I just deal with it.

 

 

Bose QC 11 noise cancelling headphones.  There is a "calm" iPhone app that offers many white noise, sleep stories.  The two together will easily drown outthe worst snore.  Have to get used to sleeping with headphones butis doable

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Thank you all for the advice and we will refer to our doctor on the best solution which I think would be the CPAP.  Sleep apnea is dangerous for sure and not having at least 6-8:hours of solid sleep is bad for you as well.  We know a couple that hardly ever sleep and they look like it.  Also, what you eat and drink can affect your sleep patterns. Exercising late in the day or night raises your metabolism but it is a double edged sword.

 

We will talk more with our doctor about this.  On a cruise I certainly don’t want to turn in at 9–10 PM as that is when the fun starts and socializing in the Avenue or the Cove.  Heck, we are not dead yet.

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The original topic on this thread is interesting. We are finally signed up for a Crystal cruise after having had to cancel others.  I have yet to decide about "going back" to anything since we won't be on our Crystal cruise until January 2020.  However, I have noticed that more than a few folks seem very interested in making certain others are aware that they are "luxury line" cruisers and there have been more than a few comments about "mass market" cruisers and their judgement and discernment among other things.

 

I am certain these sorts of comments are not indicative of the usual Crystal guest.

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i don't think the comments are indicative of "Crystal" people.  We were (and still are) happy on Celebrity, although we love Crystal

 

As Celebrity gets more expensive, the value of it goes down to us.  If I am going to spend "that kind of money" on Celebrity, other lines (eg Crystal) start getting a look.    As discussed upthread individual parts of both could be pretty close (suite, specialty food), on Celebrity you do have to leave those enclaves and that is when the experience can change.  Celebrity are bigger and busier ships.  Some people like that, some don't

 

We sailed on Oceania last year.  Great food (and I mean great) with only 1000 pax.  Entertainment was simple, ship was nice but not a palace.  I could always find a lounger (not easy on Celebrity) and the vibe was relaxed

 

I usually ask people what brand hotel they stay at on the road since those are more easily defined for clientele.  Their answer usually gives me an idea of what they like.  Best western, Marriott, Fairfield, Holiday Inn?

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1 hour ago, Bootman4U said:

and there have been more than a few comments about "mass market" cruisers and their judgement and discernment among other things.

Yeah, but that's a commonality to being human -- many people love to judge and/or brag.  It's not just true of some Crystal cruisers, it's equally true of Celebrity cruisers, Carnival cruisers, Disney Cruisers, MSC cruisers, etc.........there will be good and bad in any group.  I personally don't see a lot of judgement or bragging on Crystal, but I'm sure it's there somewhere.  I just don't spend time around people that do that sort of thing, so I don't notice it as a problem.  If I meet someone who is or seems to want to be bragging or judging, I find somewhere else to be and someone else to chat with. 

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Just now, Bootman4U said:

The original topic on this thread is interesting. We are finally signed up for a Crystal cruise after having had to cancel others.  I have yet to decide about "going back" to anything since we won't be on our Crystal cruise until January 2020.  However, I have noticed that more than a few folks seem very interested in making certain others are aware that they are "luxury line" cruisers and there have been more than a few comments about "mass market" cruisers and their judgement and discernment among other things.

 

I am certain these sorts of comments are not indicative of the usual Crystal guest.

Unfortunately that is human nature.  You won't see it from many people but you may from a few just as you will see the same on this board.

 

From time to time we have been in port and someone will remark can you believe how big that ship is (looking at say an RCI ship) and say "I would never sail on something that large".  I keep my mouth shut but want to say, the person on the Seabourn or Silversea ship that is one one that is half the size of the Crystal ship might say the same thing about Serenity or Symphony.

 

In the end we all have different preferences when it comes to cruising.  I have good friends who can easily afford any of the luxury lines and stay in whatever accommodation they want but they are very happy sailing with RCI.  

 

I hope you enjoy your first Crystal Cruise.  My advice continues to be to enjoy that cruise and not compare while you are on board the cruise with any others.  When you get home that is a great time to reflect on it.  Some disagree with this approach but for us it has worked well and that included sailing Celebrity for many years, sailing other luxury lines including Crystal and sailing Celebrity again.

 

Keith

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Keith I think you have the correct way of looking at different cruise lines unlike some other posters here. Go to see the good points and forget the trivial hiccups

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I've cruised both back and forth. Celebrity is no Crystal. But for the money, it's the best "mass market" line around. 

 

We've done the longer cruises on Celebrity (2 weeks - Europe/Asia/Australia) and the service, food and clientele are better than the shorter (week or less) cruises. We've definitely not had a bad cruise on Celebrity. As long as you understand that it's going to be a B+ to Crystal's A+, you'll be fine. 

 

Your mileage may vary.

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On 2/13/2019 at 8:54 AM, orchestrapal said:

Have you been in the SUITE class on Celebrity. From what I read it is a much more

upscale experience with very good service and food??

 We like Celebrity for cruises where we just want to get away, and we book a suite for the extra room. Luminae, the Suite restaurant is nice, with good food and service, and you do have access to Blu as well, which can also be nice. Beyond that, the only other "perks" are the bookings perks, including the premium beverage package,  access to Michael's Club, where the drinks are complementary, and which gets incredibly noisy and busy between about 5:00 and 6:00, and "reserved seating" at the theatre on certain nights. They are going to add the Edge feature of a "Suite Enclave" to their existing ships, which given its location on the topmost deck all the way forward, may or may not be a good thing. 

 

Beyond that, once you leave your suite you are just another passenger on a mass market ship carrying 3,300 of your new best friends! There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but you do need to be aware of it.

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Sorry, but once I leave my suite I am the same person I was when I was IN that suite. Just because there are a lot of people enjoying the features and amenities one gets on a "mass market" ship should not in any way diminish the individual's worth nor should it be allowed to.

 

 

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Celebrity is considered a premium line.  Carnival and RCL have mass market ships.  We have enjoyed Celebrity a few times but in suites and it is true the suites are beautiful and have special amenities but once you step out you are with all the other guests which makes no difference to us.  Yes, most of the food is exceptional with the exception of buffets.

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14 hours ago, Bootman4U said:

Sorry, but once I leave my suite I am the same person I was when I was IN that suite. Just because there are a lot of people enjoying the features and amenities one gets on a "mass market" ship should not in any way diminish the individual's worth nor should it be allowed to.

 

 

Wasn't suggesting that you would be. What I was suggesting is not to expect the same level of service outside the Suite amenities on Celebrity that you would get on Crystal. There is a significant difference between being one of 800 and one of 3,300.

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On 2/21/2019 at 8:53 PM, tfred said:

 

I usually ask people what brand hotel they stay at on the road since those are more easily defined for clientele.  Their answer usually gives me an idea of what they like.  Best western, Marriott, Fairfield, Holiday Inn?

Why?

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On 2/24/2019 at 7:27 AM, Sir Humphrey said:

Why?

Hotel brands do a good job of defining what they are and you probably know what it is like before you get there.  People staying at a Renaissance Resort  know the amenities and so do those at a Holidome.  People want to go on vacation where they are comfortable with the setting and are getting perceived value.  Almost everyone who has cruised has stayed at a hotel (probably a lot of them) and know the differences between hotel brands.  Not so when picking a cruise in that whole mass market section.  NCL, Celebrity, Princess, HAL all kinda look the same when we know they are not

 

I have sat next to pax on Celebrity who told me that they were more comfortable on Carnival - room, drinks, food - than on Celebrity .  Wouldn't be my choice but they thought that carnival was better for them.

 

The cruise industry certainly is trying to differentiate its brands, but even here on CC there are folks asking 'Would I like Princess if I like Celebrity?"  Doesn't mean they would appreciate a higher level ship, but some folks don't want to dress 'country club casual" all the time.

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3 minutes ago, tfred said:

NCL, Celebrity, Princess, HAL all kinda look the same when we know they are not

Though that's kind of true for hotels too, but within the brand, not between brands - they're not the same, even if they try to look like they are.  Most hotel brands have an image to differentiate themselves, but in reality it really depends on the individual location and franchisee, in my experience (of traveling for business or pleasure).   I don't always gravitate to a Sheraton or a Best Western or a HI Express, because in any given city I can't say which will offer me more comfortable accommodations with better amenities for an equitable price.  The Best Western in one city might be pretty shabby, while in another city it's better maintained than the Fairfield Inn.   So I do what I think a lot of people do, and look at the individual locations, amenities, and prices - except those who are building loyalty points. 

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Good point,  I loved Viking Ocean and would go that way every time if I could afford it.  But I will say many of the people that I interacted with acted like a lot of "privileged" snotty people who thought they were special.  I sadly can not afford to go Viking every time, I can usually afford Carnival.  And there I do not find people with their noses up in the air.

 

 

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1 hour ago, newcruiser1956 said:

And there I do not find people with their noses up in the air.

I believe it will depend on what you are looking for - I have never found any of the people I've met on Crystal to act snobby or if they thought they were special, but I wasn't looking for that.  I was looking for nice folk who were interesting to talk to and pleasant to be around.  I'm sure there were people there who thought they were special, but they must have been giving off vibes that led me to bypass them and to never give them a moment's thought.  On the other hand, I've just postings from people on CC that are snobby and make me think the writers think they're special.....and they're cruising on Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, NCL, and HAL. 

 

In other words, there will be snobby people everywhere, regardless of what they make or what they spend.  It's about an attitude, unrelated to money.

 

(And, I am privileged to be able to cruise a luxury line.  Not privileged because I'm special, but privileged because I've been lucky.  I acknowledge it and am grateful for it.  My luck could change at any time.)

 

(edited for formatting)

Edited by calliopecruiser

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It has been a long time since our Celebrity cruises ( the Mercury) and we weren't wowed.  Princess has a year-round presence in San Francisco and many of our elderly friends are able to cruise round-trip from this port.  We find ourselves cruising either on Crystal for distant ports and locales or with Princess for  short get-away cruises with friends without the hassle of flying.  Of course the Crystal ambiance and activities are missed but many of our friends would not be willing to  pay for Crystal.  

 

We, too, feel lucky to have the choices and are able to enjoy our vacations.

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On 2/20/2019 at 2:31 AM, MalbecWine said:

The only reason we stay in PH deck is because of space and my husband snores so bad that at least I have a couch to sleep on.  We have even paid extra for the connecting PH-PS which works out much better than the CP. If I were a solo a regular stateroom would be just fine.  We hardly use the Butler and rarely use room service and don’t request special treatment at all.  We go with the flow like everybody else.  Just paying a little extra for the real estate.

 

Yes, some people like to brag and request special attention like being first off the ship and being escorted by concierge to their luggage or first on the ship or first on a tender.  This is something we do not do out of respect to our fellow cruisers.  Same as boarding a plane we don’t que up to be first in line to board as if their seat will go away in first or business.  I have seen this selfish behavior many times.

 

Once we step outside of the cabin we are all the same and treated the same in any venue on the ship.  We know people with over 300 cruises on Crystal that feel the same way as we do.  I guess some people are very needy but we are not one of them.

 

I guess we were raised the right way and it was called respect others.

This thread reenforces my view.

 

Some people are happy sailing both lines.  Some people would have a tough time going from Crystal to Celebrity while others could easily do that.

 

Our own views also differ on things such as what Celebrity is (Mass Market or Premium).  For me it used to be premium and I feel a few other lines fall in that category but my own view based on our last sailing is that it fell somewhere between the two categories.  Of course this is just my opinion.  

 

On a related note we have always enjoyed the suites on Celebrity and this began with Century.  Thought the size of the suites was terrific along with their layout and we felt that the Butler were the best we have had after Crystal.  Enjoyed them more than Cunard (to me they were not butlers) and Silversea.

 

In the end the only person who can decide what the original poster asked is the original poster.

 

My own advice is we never spend the time while on board any cruise line comparing it to another and in the end I have found positive attributes from every cruise line we have sailed.  However, when we add up all the positives our list gets shorter as to the line(s) we like the most.

 

Keith

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6 hours ago, calliopecruiser said:

I believe it will depend on what you are looking for - I have never found any of the people I've met on Crystal to act snobby or if they thought they were special, but I wasn't looking for that.  I was looking for nice folk who were interesting to talk to and pleasant to be around.  I'm sure there were people there who thought they were special, but they must have been giving off vibes that led me to bypass them and to never give them a moment's thought.  On the other hand, I've just postings from people on CC that are snobby and make me think the writers think they're special.....and they're cruising on Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, NCL, and HAL. 

 

In other words, there will be snobby people everywhere, regardless of what they make or what they spend.  It's about an attitude, unrelated to money.

 

(And, I am privileged to be able to cruise a luxury line.  Not privileged because I'm special, but privileged because I've been lucky.  I acknowledge it and am grateful for it.  My luck could change at any time.)

 

(edited for formatting)

You are so correct.  Some people love to brag about how they know and socialize with major officers and rarely interact with others they don’t know.  We have seen this first hand; but the majority of guests are very friendly.  We love meeting new people and many we still stay in touch even though we are miles away.  Some of our friends we have met have visited us and we in turn have visited them as well as staying with them as well as our home.  We also love planning another cruise with our friends that we have met over the years.  

 

We love being social and in fact have met people on this board that are wonderful and have welcomed us into their to their country and have met them when traveling. You know who you are and it was such a pleasure.

Edited by MalbecWine

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Just now, MalbecWine said:

You are so correct.  Some people love to brag about how they know and socialize with major officers and rarely interact with others they don’t know.  We have seen this first hand; but the majority of guests are very friendly.  We love meeting new people and many we still stay in touch even though we are miles away.  Some of our friends we have met have visited us and we in turn have visited them as well as staying with them as well as our home.  We also love planning another cruise with our friends that we have met over the years.  

 

We love being social and in fact have met people on this board that are wonderful and have welcomed us into their to their country and have met them when traveling. You know who you are and it was such a pleasure.

Not sure why you think that someone saying they dined with an officer is bragging.   People who say they socialize with a variety of people (including Officers and Senior Staff) are not necessarily bragging.  Rather they are sharing their actual experience and on Crystal this is something that is more unique and that is the interaction with officers and crew with the guests. 

 

That is no different than someone saying they take a CP or a PH and PS.  Are they bragging?  Well thinking the best in people they are just sharing their experience.

 

Better to think the best in people rather than the worst.

 

Same goes in your earlier post about people getting off the ship first after it is cleared whether that is by tender or walking off the ship.  You called that disrespectful.  Now if someone jumped in the tender or pushed open the door to the gangway that is disrespectful (or better yet breaking a rule).  But whether you are first off or last off the ship is ones own decision.  By the way there are some people such as my wife who because of the medication they take do get off the ship early for two reasons.  One is because they are not heat tolerant and by getting off the ship early they can enjoy a few hours in port before it gets too hot.  The other issue for some people including my wife because of the medication she takes is to avoid being on a tender that is fully packed with people.  So in our case we get off on the first tender if it is not crowded so we can try to sit further away from others.  If the tender is full then we wait.   

 

Sometimes I think people spend too much time judging others because their approach is different than their own and for whatever reason draw conclusions that are absolutely way off the mark.

 

On our cruises across all cruise lines we have met some of the nicest people we have ever made and made lifelong friends.  At the same time when you sail with other people undoubtedly each of us will meet people who we don't care for.  That's life.

 

Personally I do not spend time judging others.  I concern myself just with myself and my lovely wife.  And for those who consider themselves to be respectful of others I certainly would not be labeling others and taking shots at others IMHO.  

 

This approach might be why we have enjoyed all the cruises we have ever taken except for maybe one cruise on one cruse line although on that line there were some things we enjoyed including some people we met.

 

Keith

 

 

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