Rare LMaxwell Posted March 7, 2019 #726 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The P's turn on each other. What a way to enjoy my morning coffee. Claws, hissing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted March 7, 2019 #727 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Coralc said: 2 Weeks until retirement! Congrats! I retired last August and it’s everything it’s cracked up to be. mac_tlc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted March 7, 2019 #728 Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 hours ago, pcur said: Now, now, be nice to jc, Patti. Just because "some" of us have a lot of "free" time in the near future, doesn't mean we have to make jc feel bad. (no, I'm not stalking you; I just stumbled on this post) It is ok Peggy and Patty, we are off to downunder and several days on Heron Island before we sail across the South Pacific to Hawaii. When I get home on May 5, then I will officially be out of vacation. John, I did a time share presentation at a shabby Holiday Inn in 1985 where we got free Disney tickets after 4 hours of hounding, to make it worse, the Cardinals lost in the World Series to the Kansas City Royals while we were in the ant infested HI in Kissimmee Florida. Somehow over the last 34 years I have managed to avoid another Time Share offering. Either I figured something out then or I have been extremely lucky or unlucky since.🤡 jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted March 7, 2019 #729 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Coralc said: 2 Weeks until retirement! Congratulations! jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted March 7, 2019 #730 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 hours ago, steveru621 said: I wonder how you identify NSPP's? Do they wear hats? A scarlet 'P'? But since this thread is about D+ benefits it hardly seems relevant. What is an NSPP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 7, 2019 #731 Share Posted March 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: It is ok Peggy and Patty, we are off to downunder and several days on Heron Island before we sail across the South Pacific to Hawaii. When I get home on May 5, then I will officially be out of vacation. John, I did a time share presentation at a shabby Holiday Inn in 1985 where we got free Disney tickets after 4 hours of hounding, to make it worse, the Cardinals lost in the World Series to the Kansas City Royals while we were in the ant infested HI in Kissimmee Florida. Somehow over the last 34 years I have managed to avoid another Time Share offering. Either I figured something out then or I have been extremely lucky or unlucky since.🤡 jc We were in St Louis for that debacle. I used to have a button that said St Louis won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 7, 2019 #732 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, marci22 said: What is an NSPP? Non suite paying pineapples. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 7, 2019 #733 Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 hours ago, pcur said: Now, now, be nice to jc, Patti. Just because "some" of us have a lot of "free" time in the near future, doesn't mean we have to make jc feel bad. (no, I'm not stalking you; I just stumbled on this post) I have a stalker. Its wierd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 7, 2019 #734 Share Posted March 7, 2019 6 hours ago, gkbiiii said: I think people have much emotion to this, being that Diamond Plus & above is both hard and long to get to. Add in the significant cost, and you can see whey people get so emotional. I would be a Diamond Plus by now, but saw what was going on, and went to do other lines, to expand my horizons. Best decision I have done: MSC Yacht Club was great: in the near future Crystal, Cunard, Windstar, Holland, and yes even Carnival. I really want to do a 30+ day Transatlantic on their new ship. Royal's old slogan: "get out there," you know their right, it is a big world of cruising out there; it is time to explore more of it, without RCL! 30 days, are you rowing across? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkbiiii Posted March 7, 2019 #735 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: 30 days, are you rowing across? It is three, back to back cruises in one: Carnival Mardi Gras, Southampton--NYC Transatlantic, NYC--Canada, & NYC--Port Everglades Southern Caribbean Redepositing Cruise. Edited March 7, 2019 by gkbiiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBE4 Posted March 7, 2019 #736 Share Posted March 7, 2019 13 hours ago, steveru621 said: Since we were platinum (now D++), we have always got a C&A Balcony discount. Reports that it has little value depend on your financial status I guess. For us, even $50 is greatly appreciated. After all, you won't throw 50 bucks in the trash. Perhaps I should have used the term "lesser value" instead of "little value". You are right, $50 is still $50 and I would never throw away or even turn down an offer for $5, much less $50. It's just that when as perk is advertised as $200 or $250 off, that's 10% off on a $2,000-$2,500 cruise. Reduce that to $50, and now I have a 2% - 2.5% I'll take it but is it enough of a loyalty perk to keep me coming back? No, not on it's own but combined with many other perks - and the fact I like Royals product - its a nice little bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted March 7, 2019 #737 Share Posted March 7, 2019 10 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Andy's experience is related to Oasis ships for the most part. Primarily CK and the SL. He also likes to cruise off season and take advantage of low prices. Guess who else does that? Perhaps Andy should try another ship. There are beautiful suites on every ship. If I knew a ship did not provide the best experience for me., I would definitely try another ship, or even cruise line. Forget about the Pinnacles or D+ infiltrating ( at least those groups have paid their way to benefits ) and diluting benefits, the new kid on the block is Key. For just a few hundred dollars per cruise it provides terrific benefits for those not in a suite or in any higher loyalty tier. It was recently reported that Chops ( free embarkation lunch for key) made the restaurant so crowded, that those who wanted to pay could not get seated. This group gets the same or better seating in many venues. They get a steak and egg breakfast on debarkation day. They get carry on luggage drop off and valet to the cabin. and on and on. Oh, and it is basically the same price as internet which is included for Key. The non suite pinnacle passenger is no issue for me. It is the same as a person who pays to fly first class and the person who flies the airline often and uses points for the first class ticket. Both both have the same right to be in the pre flight lounge, and have a seat in first class. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville2Cabo Posted March 7, 2019 #738 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I agree the suite guest shoild have priority over pinnacles. How about allowing the suite guest to have the concierge reserve seats for them in the lounge if they are going to attend that evening. Pinnacles can have any seats not reserved. Just like paying airline first class passengers get their seats and upper level loyalty customers can have first class seats if available. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 7, 2019 #739 Share Posted March 7, 2019 12 hours ago, countess5 said: Andy I have read many of your concerns about Pinnacles and on my cruise last week as a suite person had no issues with Pinnacles. I actually loved talking to the ones I met and hearing of thier stories. There were 462 Diamond and Diamond Plus that took over everthing. If there had been 100 Pinnacles I would not of had an issue, you need to check your thought processes on this. Issue,. Just saying Not sure what Class ship you were on but if you were on Harmony of Symphony, a 100+ P’s WOULD HAVE an impact on the Suite experience. (if in full suite). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted March 7, 2019 #740 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 hours ago, CruisingNole said: As an average Joe gold cruiser, I too found the $2.50 charge for popcorn laughable. AGREE - We remark that you can get as many lobster tails as you want at dinner, but they charge $2.50 for 10 cents worth of popcorn. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 7, 2019 #741 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, xpcdoojk said: O and pretty much everyone living in Florida, and anyone without kids. This must be the Florida P’s we heard so much about on Presidents Cruise our of Barcelona. P’s who can’t stand P’s. Lol Edited March 7, 2019 by Milwaukee Eight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted March 7, 2019 #742 Share Posted March 7, 2019 13 hours ago, countess5 said: Andy I have read many of your concerns about Pinnacles and on my cruise last week as a suite person had no issues with Pinnacles. I actually loved talking to the ones I met and hearing of thier stories. There were 462 Diamond and Diamond Plus that took over everthing. If there had been 100 Pinnacles I would not of had an issue, you need to check your thought processes on this. Issue,. Just saying I experienced the same thing with my December, January, and February cruises on Oasis. No problems at all, could always find plenty of seats in the SL, and always seated on time with our CK reservations. We met some very nice Pinnies. 🙂 Could not use the DL, however, as it was totally over crowded with the combined Ds and D+ on all three cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted March 7, 2019 #743 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Perhaps we've never had any issue with the number of loyalty passengers on any ship because we rarely use the lounge in the evening. If we do it is generally something like 7-7:30. Maybe it clears out for those at dinner. I hear the numbers and the high numbers seem to have no impact, even for morning coffee. I know some on CC have posted comments and photos of long lines to get a cup of specialty coffee but we have not experienced the issue even on a TA, with lots of suite and/or high end cruisers. A few cruises ago I think there were 4 people in coffee line in front of me. It took maybe 10 minutes for get coffee. So for me that is a non issues, perhaps for others a 10 minute wait is a basis for complaining . M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveru621 Posted March 7, 2019 #744 Share Posted March 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said: I agree the suite guest shoild have priority over pinnacles. How about allowing the suite guest to have the concierge reserve seats for them in the lounge if they are going to attend that evening. Pinnacles can have any seats not reserved. Just like paying airline first class passengers get their seats and upper level loyalty customers can have first class seats if available. And I agree. Suites should have priority. I have said that Pins may someday get kicked out of the SL on some cruises. Just like the D+ got kicked out on a few cruises. It's not the hair on fire problem that it's made out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBE4 Posted March 7, 2019 #745 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 hours ago, xpcdoojk said: So book a suite on another line, problem solved. O, that is not the problem, the problem is you... You like RCI, and want to change it to make it perfect for you. Too bad so sad. jc Just to play devils advocate - and because I have lot of free time on my hands today - say you decide to purchase The Key so you can get reserved Flowrider time without the long lines. After shelling out $280 ($20 pp/pn for 7 nights), you show up the first day and find a long line of non-KEY Pinnacle's in front of you. Yeah, I know it'll never happen but bear with me for the sake of example. You wouldn't be annoyed that an advertised benefit (Key member only Flowrider times) turned out to be less than true? Be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted March 7, 2019 #746 Share Posted March 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, HBE4 said: Just to play devils advocate - and because I have lot of free time on my hands today - say you decide to purchase The Key so you can get reserved Flowrider time without the long lines. After shelling out $280 ($20 pp/pn for 7 nights), you show up the first day and find a long line of non-KEY Pinnacle's in front of you. Yeah, I know it'll never happen but bear with me for the sake of example. You wouldn't be annoyed that an advertised benefit (Key member only Flowrider times) turned out to be less than true? Be honest. Do Pinnacles get flow rider privileges. Based on the age and physical agility of many upper tier cruisers I suspect it would never be an issue. If Key and Pinnacles have to share the reserved private time slot, it is no problem, as both groups are still getting private hours. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted March 7, 2019 #747 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Well, it is a silly argument. Anyone booking a suite who does any research know that people who can enter the suite lounge falls into two classes either in a full suite or a pinnacle. By the rules of RCI the Pinnacles are not violating the rules nor has RCI changed the rules. On the Key times on the flowrider, it says it is specific to the Key holders. Even if they limit the Key to 100 Keys, if 20 Keys show up for the flowrider hour it will suck. RCI doesn’t have to limit the Key to 100, they might decide to sell 1000 keys, in which case the Key will be meaningless. Further, when RCI introduced Star class suites. Those Star class people, can already go to the head of the line at the flowrider (it is my understanding, have never seen it happen) is that fair to the people who have been standing in the line for the last hour? The sailings that have an abundance of Ps are completely predictable. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted March 7, 2019 #748 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, cruisegirl1 said: Do Pinnacles get flow rider privileges. Based on the age and physical agility of many upper tier cruisers I suspect it would never be an issue. If Key and Pinnacles have to share the reserved private time slot, it is no problem, as both groups are still getting private hours. M No C&A level assures flowrider access, Star class suites do, and not just the private times, but any public time. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted March 7, 2019 #749 Share Posted March 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, HBE4 said: Just to play devils advocate - and because I have lot of free time on my hands today - say you decide to purchase The Key so you can get reserved Flowrider time without the long lines. After shelling out $280 ($20 pp/pn for 7 nights), you show up the first day and find a long line of non-KEY Pinnacle's in front of you. Yeah, I know it'll never happen but bear with me for the sake of example. You wouldn't be annoyed that an advertised benefit (Key member only Flowrider times) turned out to be less than true? Be honest. Good example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBE4 Posted March 7, 2019 #750 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: Well, it is a silly argument. Yes, I know. That's why I said it would never happen but bear with me for the sake of arguments sake. I guess to make it a more valid argument, you'd be okay with being bumped from KEY flow rider reserved time that you paid for by Star Class suite guest? Or having Star guest continually cut in front of you to the point, the KEY benefit is practically useless? My only real point is that I see some validity in what Andy C is saying. Maybe he is making a mountain out of a molehill, I don't know....I wasn't there. I was trying to create a relatable scenario for the sake of empathy. Given enough time, I could probably come up with more where a perceived benefit is "cheapen" .....like I said, I have a lot of free time today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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