sable1 Posted March 14, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 14, 2019 It has been several years since cruising on HAL, been on Princess and Oceania which have great perks for frequent cruisers. So I am wondering if there are any special things offered and hints that I should know about. Thanks in advance. Sailing Rotterdam in August. Joanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 14, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) HAL offers such good smaller ships and great itineraries, that we sail them regardless of the perks. So one will probably find HAL is not competitive with the larger ship cruise lines, who may need to offer more inducements. One of the more favorite perks after 4 star status: "free laundry", but well priced laundry packages are available for all passengers. Edited March 14, 2019 by OlsSalt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted March 14, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 14, 2019 @sable1, all Mariners receive a tile and the Mariner’s luncheon FWIW. As your status moves up, there are some decent benefits - discount on wine packages, mini bar purchases, free laundry, discount on specialty dining, priority embarkation & disembarkation, etc. It’s all listed on the HAL site (I’ve probably forgotten some) and you can decide if it’s worth while or not 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted March 14, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 14, 2019 How many days have you sailed on HAL? If you are referring to booking directly with HAL and getting perks, that doesn't happen unless you are on a HAL ship and book a future cruise. Then you get some shipboard credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted March 14, 2019 #5 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, OlsSalt said: HAL offers such good smaller ships and great itineraries, that we sail them regardless of the perks. So one will probably find HAL is not competitive with the larger ship cruise lines, who may need to offer more inducements. One of the more favorite perks after 4 star status: "free laundry", but well priced laundry packages are available for all passengers. I am in agreement on the merit of the smaller ships....But take a good deep breath...and read the annual report... " sale of ships" CCL is basically getting rid of ships under 2200 !!! In a year or so I suspect all the 1200 ships will be history as they shoot for an economy of scale. Keep your options open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 14, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: I am in agreement on the merit of the smaller ships....But take a good deep breath...and read the annual report... " sale of ships" CCL is basically getting rid of ships under 2200 !!! In a year or so I suspect all the 1200 ships will be history as they shoot for an economy of scale. Keep your options open. Already looking at Fred Olsen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 14, 2019 #7 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: I am in agreement on the merit of the smaller ships....But take a good deep breath...and read the annual report... " sale of ships" CCL is basically getting rid of ships under 2200 !!! In a year or so I suspect all the 1200 ships will be history as they shoot for an economy of scale. Keep your options open. Just want to make sure I understand you correctly! You're saying that "in a year or so" HAL will have gotten rid of Maasdam (1,258), Veendam (1,350), Rotterdam (1,404), Volendam (1,432), Zaandam (1,432), Amsterdam(1,380), Zuiderdam (1,916), Oosterdam (1,916), Westerdam (1,916), Noordam (1,924), Eurodam (2,104) and Nieuw Amsterdam (2,106) leaving a fleet of two; Koningsdam (2,650) and Nieuw Statendam (2,650) Better get those tickets folks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted March 14, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said: Just want to make sure I understand you correctly! You're saying that "in a year or so" HAL will have gotten rid of Maasdam (1,258), Veendam (1,350), Rotterdam (1,404), Volendam (1,432), Zaandam (1,432), Amsterdam(1,380), Zuiderdam (1,916), Oosterdam (1,916), Westerdam (1,916), Noordam (1,924), Eurodam (2,104) and Nieuw Amsterdam (2,106) leaving a fleet of two; Koningsdam (2,650) and Nieuw Statendam (2,650) Better get those tickets folks! If I read the annual report CCL, the parent company is getting rid of ships under 2200 It appears looking to for an economy of scale . Fewer ships , less labor, but more passengers and a shift to on board revenue expansion options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 14, 2019 #9 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: If I read the annual report CCL, the parent company is getting rid of ships under 2200 It appears looking to for an economy of scale . Fewer ships , less labor, but more passengers and a shift to on board revenue expansion options. Thanks for your response Mr. Park Ranger, we shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted March 15, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Copper10-8 said: Thanks for your response Mr. Park Ranger, we shall see Just for grins....we both worked in the same relative field Before I was a Ranger I was a DC/ in the fire world, retired and ran a international corp as CEO..... retired again and so on ..........(Never Could Hold a Job) still trying to figure out what to do when I grow up !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 15, 2019 #11 Share Posted March 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: Just for grins....we both worked in the same relative field Before I was a Ranger I was a DC/ in the fire world, retired and ran a international corp as CEO..... retired again and so on ..........(Never Could Hold a Job) still trying to figure out what to do when I grow up !!!! I do like the Grumman S2-T Turbo Tracker wild fires air tanker in your avatar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted March 15, 2019 #12 Share Posted March 15, 2019 They have to unload those older, aging ships first. So far, their track record of selling ships that they have put on the block has not been stellar. Probably a good thing for those who want to cruise on those older, smaller ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alphen Posted March 15, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Hawaiidan said: If I read the annual report CCL, the parent company is getting rid of ships under 2200 It appears looking to for an economy of scale . Fewer ships , less labor, but more passengers and a shift to on board revenue expansion options. Since Seabourne is also part of CCL, this is in sharp contradiction with the news of the new Seaborne vessels built for 264, so not 2640! https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/news/3844/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted March 15, 2019 #14 Share Posted March 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Alphen said: Since Seabourne is also part of CCL, this is in sharp contradiction with the news of the new Seaborne vessels built for 264, so not 2640! https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/news/3844/ Actualy, no. The CCL business model is well established First introduce the customer to cruising at the Carnival econ level. Then over the years sophisticate the taste of the passenger. up through Princess, Cunard, Hal. to Seaborne Being able to step by step, get away from the crowds as one ascends in the system and is willing to pay more for a more and more inclusive/ exclusive/ personal experience. So no, it is an affirmation of that business plan of developing a passengers taste for better and better things. Celeb is doing it with their Azamar brand. Oceania and Regent is another smaller ships 650-1200 . In both cases, these brands are created for refugees, as it were, from the" Mass Market" of monster ships who want something better. As ships grow larger and larger.... people will seek out smaller and smaller for a better and better experience........MOST important They see what they did not get at the $65 a day level compared to the value of a $ 200+ a day as very much worth the money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffies Posted July 17, 2019 #15 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Joanne, hi! We were on the Rotterdam last year, with Garrit & Maureen and our son and one of theirs. We cruised from Rotterdam to Boston and saw Iceland & Greenland. It was awesome. Sorry I can't really answer your question, as it was only our 3rd HAL cruise and we're peons on every cruise line except Oceania. Speaking of which, would you and J be interested if the gang got back together to cruise when Allura launches? miss you both! debra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable1 Posted July 17, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hi Debra, So good to hear from you. Definitely interested in cruising with you all again. Depends what month. In Feb. we are sailing from Cape Town to Singapore on Nautica. Trivia won't be the same without our Team. Do you still have my email? oceania 2008 @ yahoo .com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted July 17, 2019 #17 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Possibly the report refers to just Carnival ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 17, 2019 #18 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) On 3/14/2019 at 7:40 PM, Hawaiidan said: If I read the annual report CCL, the parent company is getting rid of ships under 2200 It appears looking to for an economy of scale . Fewer ships , less labor, but more passengers and a shift to on board revenue expansion options. What about Princess ships:Costa , P& O ?? Are all ships that are under 2,200 also leaving CCC ???? Who does anyone think is going to buy all (some of them aging) those ships? along with Seabourn ships :eek: sail.noordam@gmail.com Edited July 17, 2019 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 17, 2019 #19 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, SilvertoGold said: Possibly the report refers to just Carnival ships? I know little about Carnival ships but aren't man y (most ?)quite BIG in comparison to HAL's older ships? Perhaps Carnival Corp thinks them large enough to keep ? 🙂 Edited July 17, 2019 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted July 17, 2019 #20 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, sail7seas said: I know little about Carnival ships but aren't man y (most ?)quite BIG in comparison to HAL's older ships? Perhaps Carnival Corp thinks them large enough to keep ? 🙂 Depends on if you do the count on 2 pax per cabin or 4. If the former, Carnival has several ships under 2200 pax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 17, 2019 #21 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SilvertoGold said: Depends on if you do the count on 2 pax per cabin or 4. If the former, Carnival has several ships under 2200 pax OR one in a cabin as some of us sail solo. yikes Ithink the size of the ship determination in this matter comes back to gross tonnage Yes, number of guests factors into revenue and profit /loss Edited July 17, 2019 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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