Family's statement on toddler's cruise death

[nextcruiseis]

The grandfather was charged today with negligent homicide. Bail was set at $80,000 and the preliminary hearing was scheduled for November 20th.   

 

 https://www.elvocero.com/ley-y-orden/radican-cargos-contra-abuelastro-de-beb-que-muri-al-caer/article_b802ad44-f9b4-11e9-bd51-37bdf54e6472.html

 

https://www.primerahora.com/noticias/policia-tribunales/nota/cargosporhomicidionegligentecontraabuelastrodeninaquecayodecrucero-1372750/

[CruiseKeeper]

4 minutes ago, nextcruiseis said:

The grandfather was charged today with negligent homicide. Bail was set at $80,000 and the preliminary hearing was scheduled for November 20th.   

 

 https://www.elvocero.com/ley-y-orden/radican-cargos-contra-abuelastro-de-beb-que-muri-al-caer/article_b802ad44-f9b4-11e9-bd51-37bdf54e6472.html

 

https://www.primerahora.com/noticias/policia-tribunales/nota/cargosporhomicidionegligentecontraabuelastrodeninaquecayodecrucero-1372750/

 

Wow.  

[cruisinmeme]

Can’t help but wonder if the parents are still making fools of themselves by suing cruise line. It was never a case of the cruise line being at fault.

[Greenpea2]

This is just sad beyond belief. On every level.

[mjkacmom]

Prayers to that family.

[Turtles06]

21 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said:

I don't speak much Spanish but can someone explain why Google translate calls him the grandmother?

 

Obviously because Google translate is not perfecto.

 

In Spanish, the article is correct (male: abuelastro = step-grandfather).    Grandfather in Spanish is abuelo, grandmother is abuela.

 

Prayers to all, it's a horrible tragedy.

[Two Wheels Only]

6 minutes ago, Turtles06 said:

 

Obviously because Google translate is not perfecto.

 

In Spanish, the article is correct (male: abuelastro = step-grandfather).    Grandfather in Spanish is abuelo, grandmother is abuela.

 

Thanks for the info.

Now I see the "abuela" + "stro" throws off the translation.

 

 

[nwcruiselover]

1 hour ago, nextcruiseis said:

The grandfather was charged today with negligent homicide. Bail was set at $80,000 and the preliminary hearing was scheduled for November 20th.   

 

 https://www.elvocero.com/ley-y-orden/radican-cargos-contra-abuelastro-de-beb-que-muri-al-caer/article_b802ad44-f9b4-11e9-bd51-37bdf54e6472.html

 

https://www.primerahora.com/noticias/policia-tribunales/nota/cargosporhomicidionegligentecontraabuelastrodeninaquecayodecrucero-1372750/

Thank you for posting this update.  This incident has haunted me and it seemed like it had been forgotten by the news media.  What a tragic situation this is.  I hope justice will be done in this case.

[Gershep]

This is just a horrible situation all the way around. These families are destroyed forever.

[Casino Comp Chick]

I knew this would be the outcome. It is sad all around but that doesn’t change the fact he was 100% at fault.

[mitsugirly]

This is such a sad thing no matter how you look at it.

 

THIS article is saying that the lawyer is saying it was a tragic accident and they have not been able to view the video surveillance yet and intend to file a law suit against them.

[erdoran]

1 hour ago, nwcruiselover said:

Thank you for posting this update.  This incident has haunted me and it seemed like it had been forgotten by the news media.  What a tragic situation this is.  I hope justice will be done in this case.

What is justice in this case?  Punishing the family more than they have been punished?

[NLH Arizona]

16 minutes ago, mitsugirly said:

This is such a sad thing no matter how you look at it.

 

THIS article is saying that the lawyer is saying it was a tragic accident and they have not been able to view the video surveillance yet and intend to file a law suit against them.

I'm guessing the authorities have seen it, since it was reported that it was given to the police after the incident, so that is how they determined the charges.

 

Very sad for the family, as they lost their baby and now could lose the step-grandfather to prison, but depending what the video showed prison might be appropriate.

[RCLcruiser2012]

It is such a sad situation all the way around!  I don't feel he should get charged but he does owe the cruise line a public apology since he lied/blamed them.  There is no good outcome.  

[Newleno]

the family story did not mesh with the reality i am not surprised the man was charged

[esm54687]

1 hour ago, RCLcruiser2012 said:

It is such a sad situation all the way around!  I don't feel he should get charged but he does owe the cruise line a public apology since he lied/blamed them.  There is no good outcome.  

Why should he be exempt from being charged? 

 

 

[NLH Arizona]

12 minutes ago, esm54687 said:

Why should he be exempt from being charged? 

 

 

Agreed.  I'd bet if it were a babysitter or nanny, the parents would say they need to be punished.

[CP3o]

1 hour ago, NLH Arizona said:

I'm guessing the authorities have seen it, since it was reported that it was given to the police after the incident, so that is how they determined the charges.

 

 

We can't really guess but if I were the mom I'd want to see that video so it should be shared with the family.  As painful as it would be, it's probably a necesary step in healing and moving on and if RCCL isn't sharing it then I don't have a problem with lawyer's suing to make it available.  Maybe it was the only way to get the footage.

[NLH Arizona]

Just now, CP3o said:

We can't really guess but if I were the mom I'd want to see that video so it should be shared with the family.  As painful as it would be, it's probably a necesary step in healing and moving on and if RCCL isn't sharing it then I don't have a problem with lawyer's suing to make it available.  Maybe it was the only way to get the footage.

I don't believe it is up to RCCL to share it.  Since there was a death, it is up to the police department and if I remember correctly, they declined to let the parents see it.  

[CP3o]

1 minute ago, NLH Arizona said:

I don't believe it is up to RCCL to share it.  Since there was a death, it is up to the police department and if I remember correctly, they declined to let the parents see it.  

That seems odd but if it is the case then a lawsuit and discovery phase by another lawyer might be the one way they could see it.

[NLH Arizona]

1 minute ago, CP3o said:

That seems odd but if it is the case then a lawsuit and discovery phase by another lawyer might be the one way they could see it.

Not odd at all, when there is a death, the police department takes all of the evidence.

 

They are already said a few days after the incident that they were suing RCCL for negligence in the death of their daughter.

[graphicguy]

Sad...sad!  But, regardless of how this picture was painted, the step-grandfather showed a complete disregard for safety and obviously his step-grand daughter.  I’m of the mind he could not have possibly been that oblivious to the extreme danger of standing the little girl on the narrow window ledge unless he was somehow impaired.

 

The truth may never be known, given no one wants to testify, however.

[SherriZ366]

8 minutes ago, NLH Arizona said:

Not odd at all, when there is a death, the police department takes all of the evidence.

 

They are already said a few days after the incident that they were suing RCCL for negligence in the death of their daughter.

The parents and their lawyer were all over TV about suing RCCL for negligence.  

[nextcruiseis]

27 minutes ago, NLH Arizona said:

I don't believe it is up to RCCL to share it.  Since there was a death, it is up to the police department and if I remember correctly, they declined to let the parents see it.  

 

Yes, RCL provided the video to the police. The prosecutor's office has the video and they did offer the family & a lawyer (don't think it was the maritime lawyer) the opportunity to view it at some point in the summer (during the investigation and before they stated in Aug that charges would be filed), but the family declined. Now that charges have been filed, their attorneys will have access to the video from the prosecutor's office during the discovery process. 

[ray98]

13 hours ago, erdoran said:

What is justice in this case?  Punishing the family more than they have been punished?

 

 

Justice is holding a person accountable who caused a death.  Being family does not absolve criminal responsibility.