zltm089 Posted July 13, 2019 #1 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Hi all Great forum as always and very friendly members. I know cheap and luxury don't go together but what cruise lines offer a luxury type cruise at relatively lower price? I have done two Cunard cruises (not sure if they fall in the luxury band) and the prices per person weren't too bad. Silversea and seabourn definitely out of my budget! I'm a very keen foodie and 38yrs old. Thanks for all your advice and recommendations. We are in the UK aswell and would prefer something less than 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Tillie Posted July 13, 2019 #2 Share Posted July 13, 2019 No, Cunard is not "luxury", even in the Grill classes. The luxury lite lines include Oceania, Azamara and Viking. If you find Silversea and Seabourn too expensive, then Crystal and especially Regent will also be in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted July 13, 2019 #3 Share Posted July 13, 2019 If you are travelling solo, Crystal will be the least expensive of the luxury lines because of their lower solo supplement, but other than that, I agree with Tillie -- since you say Siversea and Seabourn are definitely out of your budget, the other luxury lines (Crystal, Regent, Windstar, SeaDream) will be as well. Consider a premium line such as Viking, Oceania, or Azamara, though I'm not sure the price difference is very big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 13, 2019 Author #4 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Thank you for all your comments. Any recommendations for "premium" lines that I could consider? Not going solo but with family. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted July 13, 2019 #5 Share Posted July 13, 2019 we booked Crystal Caribbean for a good price Might have a look at their pricing We usually sail Oceania which is Premium line has some inclusions but no formal night people tend to dress smartly at night more casual in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted July 13, 2019 #6 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Please look at "value received" rather than just amount paid when booking a luxury cruise. So many things are included (like tips and alcohol) for which you'd have to pay extra on a premium line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 13, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, wripro said: Please look at "value received" rather than just amount paid when booking a luxury cruise. So many things are included (like tips and alcohol) for which you'd have to pay extra on a premium line. Thanks will do. Really struggling to find a cruise line at the moment that is in the "premium" range or at least slightly better than Cunard. Don't really know much about all the different cruise lines out there. I did a P&O one and thought that it was very average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted July 13, 2019 #8 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Did you read post #3 ? What do you consider cheap in Dollars/pounds/Euros ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare knotheadusc Posted July 14, 2019 #9 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) I recommend looking for good sales and then "joining the club". My husband and I took our first SeaDream cruise in 2010, when we were not nearly as well off as we are today. They had a five night cruise going at a cheap guaranty fare. We jumped on it, and were quickly hooked. While we were onboard, we pre-booked our next cruise and got a 15% savings for an "open booking". We did the open booking a couple more times before we started sailing on Hebridean Island Cruises, which is truly all inclusive, as in, you don't even give them a credit card when you embark. Again... we found relatively cheap cruises the first time-- did two five night back to back cruises for our 10th wedding anniversary at the end of the season. It was a perfectly awesome trip, for the most part, despite it being November in Scotland. After that, we were in the "club" and started getting access to offers that made cruising with them more affordable. Hebridean automatically gives repeat cruisers a slight discount and access to inside sales. Of course, it's also a very expensive cruise line that caters to people who want to cruise in Scotland and the surrounding areas, but when they say all inclusive, they mean it. We have never so much as had a bill at the end of the cruise. I would imagine "joining the club" would work with other lines, too. Edited July 14, 2019 by knotheadusc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted July 14, 2019 #10 Share Posted July 14, 2019 You might want to get a Travel Specialist to do some leg work for you on this. Given that you have ruled out two of the luxury lines I would take a look at the others. Crystal, Regent, SeaDream, As mentioned Crystal provides good single supplements. It is capacity controlled so can vary by voyage. Regent provides more amenities in their price so as Wripro. Some you might not be interested in but just mentioning that when you first look at the price. Not all cruises have the same per diem so look carefully at that. There are non peak times of the year that might have better pricing. In your case coming from the UK you might want to find something within Europe versus traveling to the USA to save on the cost of a flight. While these are not luxury for a step up from Cunard you could consider Viking, Azamara and Windstar. Again not luxury but a step up from the mass market cruise lines and while others call themselves premium these come closer to that description. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vistaman Posted July 14, 2019 #11 Share Posted July 14, 2019 If you are patient and not wanting a particular cruise , sometimes there are luxury cruises available at quite reduced prices ; On Crystal a few European and 7 days Med cruises were recently on offer ; I also did receive a leaflet with quite some reduced prices for Seabourn even one at 1999 euro for one week. Also a Regent in October was reduced. And every year in December just before the holidays there are some specials : i did 3 times a Silversea just before Christmas but usually Barbados is involved as departure or disembarkation port what is causing a much higher fare for the air tickets. The Crystal Esprit just before Christmas Dubai Dubai was also reduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 14, 2019 Author #12 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Thank you all for your comments and very useful advice. I will have a look at the cruise lines mentioned. Maybe I shouldn't have said "cheap" but a "step up from cunard" would have been more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vistaman Posted July 14, 2019 #13 Share Posted July 14, 2019 10 hours ago, zltm089 said: Thanks will do. Really struggling to find a cruise line at the moment that is in the "premium" range or at least slightly better than Cunard. Don't really know much about all the different cruise lines out there. I did a P&O one and thought that it was very average. My second cruise - in 1987 - was on P&O and I never wanted to cruise again - of course the ships are newer and modern now; despite it was popular that old Canberra was nearly a vacation camp. I was saved by 2 great cruises in Princess , one on the former Royal Princess from 1984; that was already a huge improvement … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted July 14, 2019 #14 Share Posted July 14, 2019 We have sailed on Oceania twice (usually sail on Regent) and had a really nice experience. We would only sail on their two larger/newer ships (Marina and Riviera) - they are beautiful ships. The service is as good as on luxury cruise lines and many times the fare includes air and a choice of a wine beverage package (can be upgraded for a reasonable amount per day), on board credits or some excursions. Suggest going to the websites of Oceania, Viking and Azamara - take a look at the size of their staterooms, what they have for inclusions, etc. Doing some research will help tremendously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted July 14, 2019 #15 Share Posted July 14, 2019 The trouble with Oceania and Azamara is that although the public spaces may be lovely and the food and service good unless you book into a suite level you will be in a tiny cabin with a tiny bathroom and a tiny shower. Even on Oceania Marina and Riviera the cabins themselves are small. Only the bathrooms have more square footage. If you want a cabin comparable to an entry level suite on Seabourn or Regent or Silversea you have to book a penthouse and by the time you do that and add all the extras included on the luxury lines you'll pay as much or even more. Th 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 20, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hi again Been trying to do some reading on the different "ranking" of cruise lines. Could someone kindly please give me a breakdown? Assuming "Luxury" would be at the top? With "premium" after? What would be next down? Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Tillie Posted July 20, 2019 #17 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, zltm089 said: Hi again Been trying to do some reading on the different "ranking" of cruise lines. Could someone kindly please give me a breakdown? Assuming "Luxury" would be at the top? With "premium" after? What would be next down? Etc Then it's pretty much "mass market", but not all of them are created equal. Some are a little "nicer" than other. This would include the quality of the included food and the finish of the cabins. Of course, all of that is subject to individual interpretation. "Generally" considered "nicer" might include Celebrity, Holland America, Disney and Princess. Within a line all ships are not equal. The newer ships will get higher ratings than the older ships in the same fleet. There are lists that give each lines' ships star ratings, but the one I know is from a travel agency, and therefore can not be named on Cruise Critic. I have not included lines with ships carrying fewer than 400 or so passengers as those are a different kettle of fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 20, 2019 Author #18 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Ah thanks for this. I'm currently looking into Royal Caribbean and maybe MSC. Will have to keep reading I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Tillie Posted July 20, 2019 #19 Share Posted July 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, zltm089 said: Ah thanks for this. I'm currently looking into Royal Caribbean and maybe MSC. Will have to keep reading I guess. "Many" will tell you that those 2 are "better" than Carnival, Costa and possibly NCL. Ultimately, you need to try one and see how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted July 20, 2019 #20 Share Posted July 20, 2019 56 minutes ago, zltm089 said: Ah thanks for this. I'm currently looking into Royal Caribbean and maybe MSC. Will have to keep reading I guess. neither would be luxury ...JMO Look at Oceania. Azamara, Viking Oceans for more upscale than "mass market/main stream" lines but if you are looking at lots of activities & places to eat onboard the main stream lines have it be sure to factor in the "extras" that you will pay for on the main stream lines EG: sodas. bottled water. specialty coffees etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 20, 2019 Author #21 Share Posted July 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, LHT28 said: neither would be luxury ...JMO Look at Oceania. Azamara, Viking Oceans for more upscale than "mass market/main stream" lines but if you are looking at lots of activities & places to eat onboard the main stream lines have it be sure to factor in the "extras" that you will pay for on the main stream lines EG: sodas. bottled water. specialty coffees etc Thanks I will look at the ones you've mentioned. Looking at the luxury ones, they are definitely out of my budget range. Even the premium ones are still high. So I think, I need to start considering the "mass market" ones but ones that will be slightly better. Maybe something that will be just under the "premium" /premium light category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KmomChicago Posted July 20, 2019 #22 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Interesting that you are looking now at RCI and MSC. These both have amazingly upgraded suite options that provide a much different experience than basic accommodations. The "highest" we have ever gone would be Celebrity and Disney, which admittedly are nowhere near the luxury end of the cruise market. However I think there is more to the story than just the classification of various lines and separate ships within the line. What are you really looking for in terms of luxury in a cruise? If we ever got to the point of having unlimited travel funds and time, we would absolutely get a big suite on a Royal Caribbean Oasis Class ship rather than considering a more exclusive cruise brand. We really like big ships with lots of bells, whistles, and sensory overload. However we would of course prefer an exclusive, luxurious stateroom rather than the steerage, er, inside stateroom, we had last time. We understand full well that it's a mass market product with 6,000 of our closest friends aboard ranging from all sorts of demographic backgrounds. Alternatively, we would love to do something like Hurtigruten, say a 2 week in depth visit to the Norwegian fjords. I don't know what you call this "class" but it seems to me to be more of Explorer or Adventure travel than what I perceive as "Luxury." However, the prices are up in the higher end. I always had out on my not-very-likely-blue-sky bucket list, some sort of European river cruise like Viking or Avalon. But quite honestly, the point of such a cruise for me, would be the visits to the ports, not the vessel itself, which is relatively small and built for the function of navigating a certain type of narrow, shallow, and often urban environment, while providing very comfortable lodging. Better quality fellow passengers or upgraded dining just don't add all that much value to me. I honestly think what means "luxury" to one traveler may or may not equate to the official classifications of these cruise brands and ships. You can find luxury on mass market ships or feel standard accommodations on a luxury line are only "average" to you. Edited July 20, 2019 by KmomChicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 20, 2019 Author #23 Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, KmomChicago said: Interesting that you are looking now at RCI and MSC. These both have amazingly upgraded suite options that provide a much different experience than basic accommodations. The "highest" we have ever gone would be Celebrity and Disney, which admittedly are nowhere near the luxury end of the cruise market. However I think there is more to the story than just the classification of various lines and separate ships within the line. What are you really looking for in terms of luxury in a cruise? If we ever got to the point of having unlimited travel funds and time, we would absolutely get a big suite on a Royal Caribbean Oasis Class ship rather than considering a more exclusive cruise brand. We really like big ships with lots of bells, whistles, and sensory overload. However we would of course prefer an exclusive, luxurious stateroom rather than the steerage, er, inside stateroom, we had last time. We understand full well that it's a mass market product with 6,000 of our closest friends aboard ranging from all sorts of demographic backgrounds. Alternatively, we would love to do something like Hurtigruten, say a 2 week in depth visit to the Norwegian fjords. I don't know what you call this "class" but it seems to me to be more of Explorer or Adventure travel than what I perceive as "Luxury." However, the prices are up in the higher end. I always had out on my not-very-likely-blue-sky bucket list, some sort of European river cruise like Viking or Avalon. But quite honestly, the point of such a cruise for me, would be the visits to the ports, not the vessel itself, which is relatively small and built for the function of navigating a certain type of narrow, shallow, and often urban environment, while providing very comfortable lodging. Better quality fellow passengers or upgraded dining just don't add all that much value to me. I honestly think what means "luxury" to one traveler may or may not equate to the official classifications of these cruise brands and ships. You can find luxury on mass market ships or feel standard accommodations on a luxury line are only "average" to you. Spot on!!! I think I got the "luxury" classification all wrong and the more I read, it looks like maybe I wasn't after a "luxury" cruise line after all (not to mention that they are out of my budget anyway). But wasn't too keen on the smaller ships and too much of a "personal" butler kind of service. What I'm actually after is good food (I know very subjective, but I'd like to think I can tell when something has been well prepared etc and my reviews on TripAdvisor normally is in line with other "senior" reviewers... ). I would like great variety but also quality, from freshness and sweetness of the fruits in the buffet restaurant to the fine dining etc I would like it to be of "above average" standard. I would like a modern ship aswell, with lots of facilities, new decor and fancy cool stuff like, maybe some massive water slide or 3D cinema etc... The cabins don't have to be spacious, but I like modern and good quality fittings etc. Having said that, I don't want to end up in a "mass market" cheap theme park with queues of rude people shouting and screaming etc. Or some cheap buffet all you can eat restaurant. I'm really tempted to give Royal Caribbean a go. About £1500 pp, so hopefully won't be too bad. I'm a novice with cruises as you can see from my posts and not even sure what is a "decent" budget for a 7 night cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted July 20, 2019 #24 Share Posted July 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, zltm089 said: Thanks I will look at the ones you've mentioned. Looking at the luxury ones, they are definitely out of my budget range. Even the premium ones are still high. So I think, I need to start considering the "mass market" ones but ones that will be slightly better. Maybe something that will be just under the "premium" /premium light category. What is your budget & how long of a cruise are you looking at? That may provide some insight for suggestions for you When looking at the main stream lines with the suites they probably cost just as much or more than a luxury line 😉 We just got a good deal on Crystal for a Dec Caribbean cruise ..8 days $2000 pp it includes alcohol, gratuities etc it is an outside cabin to me that is a good price to try a luxury line YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zltm089 Posted July 20, 2019 Author #25 Share Posted July 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, LHT28 said: What is your budget & how long of a cruise are you looking at? That may provide some insight for suggestions for you When looking at the main stream lines with the suites they probably cost just as much or more than a luxury line 😉 We just got a good deal on Crystal for a Dec Caribbean cruise ..8 days $2000 pp it includes alcohol, gratuities etc it is an outside cabin to me that is a good price to try a luxury line YMMV I just saw your post. Probably looking at something like 7 nights. 5 too short and anything over 10 might be "too long" for me. Budget would be around £1500pp. But could go up if needs be. So far, I've only tried balconies so will stick to that. And probably departing from the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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