catl331 Posted July 21, 2019 #76 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 7:30 PM, TiogaCruiser said: Same here. But I recognize that shower curtain. Looks like the same bathroom we had ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted July 21, 2019 #77 Share Posted July 21, 2019 $1000 a day for the Prinsendam. In American money??? I have land to sell, please call me. This was a chopped up aging ship, I didn’t feel the charm over 14 days on board and we were not in bargain accommodations. Got tired of stuffing wash cloths in between dresser drawers to stop rattling. We were never able to stop a pocket door from rattling. Got tired of the AC going out every day. Got tired of the musty odor we had in the stateroom. Got tired of the tremendous volume of stinky cigarette smoke permeating the library and other public areas. Never got used to the chopped up traffic flow, we had to walk through a dining room over and over to get places. Some doors from the promenade deck led into the dishwashing area of the kitchen, then you had to walk through the cooking area and into a dining room to get out. The decor was dated and a little tacky with hundreds of port plaques covering wall space. There was very little outdoor shade, pool side chairs were cheap mesh and plastic and in full sun. We paid for every bottled water we drank- even Fairfield Inn type places provide a couple free water bottles. Food is subjective but we thought it was standard for the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 21, 2019 #78 Share Posted July 21, 2019 My best guess about why the Prinsendam was unloaded instead of being refurbished lies at the very bottom right hand corner of a spreadsheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 22, 2019 #79 Share Posted July 22, 2019 22 hours ago, iancal said: My best guess about why the Prinsendam was unloaded instead of being refurbished lies at the very bottom right hand corner of a spreadsheet. I doubt many would disagree with you. HAL mad e chsnged to her when she joined the fleet. She was 'aged' then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankc98376 Posted July 26, 2019 #80 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Is the small prop in the center of the stern a thruster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 26, 2019 Author #81 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, frankc98376 said: Is the small prop in the center of the stern a thruster? Yes Sir, good eye! In addition to two four-bladed bow thrusters up front, P-dam, soon to be Amera, has one 360 degrees rotatable stern compass thruster and that's what you're looking at (the third smaller propeller) located in between and above her twin four-bladed controllable pitch propellers in those two pics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 2, 2019 Author #82 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Update on the former P-dam's conversion to Phoenix Reisen's Amera at the Blohm + Voss yard. The former blue hull is outtahere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted August 2, 2019 #83 Share Posted August 2, 2019 She starts to look good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted August 2, 2019 #84 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Here are some more pics for you. The article is in German but the pictures tell the story. Lots of good pics and you can see a lot of progress. I can see they have preserved the wood in the staterooms 🙂 https://www.phoenixreisen.com/magazin/kreuzfahrt-news/bilderstrecke-ms-amera-aktuelll-in-der-werft.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted August 2, 2019 #85 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Thanks for the updates, she's looking good. I always enjoyed the library on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted August 2, 2019 #86 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I’m not quite getting the picture of her lido. Did they fill in the pool with glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 2, 2019 Author #87 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, TiogaCruiser said: I’m not quite getting the picture of her lido. Did they fill in the pool with glass? It is slated to remain a pool; perhaps a different shape than the "small hole/large hole" pool on P-dam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted August 2, 2019 #88 Share Posted August 2, 2019 She’s looking very bright and shiny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 2, 2019 Author #89 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, *Miss G* said: She’s looking very bright and shiny! Phoenix Reisen standard colors of white overall with a turquoise cheatline and stack imprinted with a white flying albatross on a golden sun which will give her that classy look Edited August 2, 2019 by Copper10-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted August 2, 2019 #90 Share Posted August 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: It is slated to remain a pool; perhaps a different shape than the "small hole/large hole" pool on P-dam It looks like it will have a pool but not the same. Some more pics from Phoenix Amadeus’ newsletter: I read somewhere that there would not be a huge emphasis on the pool but I can’t remember where I saw that, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted August 2, 2019 #91 Share Posted August 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: Phoenix Reisen standard colors of white overall with a turquoise cheatline and stack imprinted with a white flying albatross on a golden sun which will give her that classy look I really like that logo and the colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 2, 2019 Author #92 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, TiogaCruiser said: I really like that logo and the colors. So do I, it's a nice looking combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asebastian Posted August 3, 2019 #93 Share Posted August 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Copper10-8 said: Great photo of the horizontal fin there, John! Seldom see it stretched out as it's always under the waterline. I'd like to think that if they run out of fuel, it can become an oar and row the boat... 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 3, 2019 Author #94 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, asebastian said: Great photo of the horizontal fin there, John! Seldom see it stretched out as it's always under the waterline. I'd like to think that if they run out of fuel, it can become an oar and row the boat... 🙂 Then you need these guys to keep 'em rowing together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cayman09 Posted August 3, 2019 #95 Share Posted August 3, 2019 John, that picture of the Albatros looks like an old Sitmar Line ship. Fairwind maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asebastian Posted August 3, 2019 #96 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Copper10-8 said: Then you need these guys to keep 'em rowing together Looks like BB King band with 4 & 5 star mariners rowing...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 3, 2019 Author #97 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, cayman09 said: John, that picture of the Albatros looks like an old Sitmar Line ship. Fairwind maybe? Great eyes, Sir! She started out as Cunard's Sylvania in 1957. Then became Sitmar's Fairwind in 1968. When P&O took over Sitmar, she became Dawn Princess for Princess in 1988. Dawn Princess became Albatross under charter to Phoenix Reisen in 1993 under which she experienced several mechanical issues. She was ultimately broken up at Alang, India in 2004. Phoenix currently operates another Albatross which is the former Royal Viking Line's Royal Viking Sea, Royal Cruise Line's Royal Odyssey, NCL's Norwegian Star and Chinese day casino ship Crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted August 3, 2019 #98 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Both the Albatros have some history, guess it's cheaper then a new build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted August 3, 2019 #99 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I have to laugh when people use the words strategy and HAL in the same sentence. Based on what I observe, HAL’s strategy is constant change. Pretty soon the CD/EXC person will also have to do laundry and Captain the ship 😳. HAL is on the fast track to become Carnival 2.0. We have already started our exodus by booking the Oceania 2021 WC instead of HAL’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted August 3, 2019 #100 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) I believe that HAL has a strategy. Spend as little as possible on aging ship maintenance/upkeep and position/sell this to your loyal following as premium, nostalgia, experience, atmosphere, whatever. Unload the ship when it is clear that the end is near without a large capital spend. In the interim move to larger builds and hope that the new generation of cruisers will be as loyal as the last generation. Edited August 3, 2019 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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