Touchy subject.... appropriate dress?

[RocketMan275]

Just now, clo said:

It's the cruise lines.  If they have no dress code then go for it.

Since the cruise lines rarely choose to enforce their dress codes, what difference does it make to you?

[clo]

4 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

Since the cruise lines rarely choose to enforce their dress codes, what difference does it make to you?

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g1-i10703-k11210001-Why_do_cruisers_book_a_ship_with_a_dress_code_then_break_it-Cruises.html

 

 

[RocketMan275]

21 minutes ago, clo said:

 

 

 

That doesn't address the issue of why worry about what others choose to wear?

[clo]

3 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

That doesn't address the issue of why worry about what others choose to wear?

I'm not going to reread this entire thread but I don't remember a lot of people worrying about it.

 

But perhaps you could address the issue(s) in the link I provided.  It seems like you're the one who has the problem(s).

[RocketMan275]

21 minutes ago, clo said:

I'm not going to reread this entire thread but I don't remember a lot of people worrying about it.

 

But perhaps you could address the issue(s) in the link I provided.  It seems like you're the one who has the problem(s).

Dress codes are just an excuse some use to try to justify their desires to control other people.  You will live a less stressful and happier life if you give up the wish to control others.

[clo]

3 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

28 minutes ago, clo said:

But perhaps you could address the issue(s) in the link I provided.  It seems like you're the one who has the problem(s).

 

 

[navybankerteacher]

8 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

Dress codes are just an excuse some use to try to justify their desires to control other people.  You will live a less stressful and happier life if you give up the wish to control others.

I hope you do not really think that a cruise line sets a dress code just to be able to boss people around.    Can you just try to vizualize the possibility that the line might be trying to create an atmosphere which people who book with them might want?

 

Maybe you might be happier if you gave up the the wish to ignore what other people might prefer.

[clo]

2 minutes ago, navybankerteacher said:

Maybe you might be happier if you gave up the the wish to ignore what other people might prefer.

And select dining venues that suit the individual.

[c-boy]

24 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

Dress codes are just an excuse some use to try to justify their desires to control other people.  You will live a less stressful and happier life if you give up the wish to control others.

 ... .. oh wow !

[ColinIllinois]

32 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

Dress codes are just an excuse some use to try to justify their desires to control other people.  You will live a less stressful and happier life if you give up the wish to control others.

 

 

Have you ever heard of the term "ambiance" , especially pertaining to venues that are advertised as being more upscale? 

[RocketMan275]

1 hour ago, navybankerteacher said:

I hope you do not really think that a cruise line sets a dress code just to be able to boss people around.    Can you just try to vizualize the possibility that the line might be trying to create an atmosphere which people who book with them might want?

 

Maybe you might be happier if you gave up the the wish to ignore what other people might prefer.

The dress codes have been relaxed to appeal to a wider set of customers.

[RocketMan275]

1 hour ago, ColinIllinois said:

Have you ever heard of the term "ambiance" , especially pertaining to venues that are advertised as being more upscale? 

Why is the 'ambiance' of some more important than the 'ambiance' of others?  

Have you noticed the more upscale cruise lines have the most relaxed dress codes?

Edited August 19, 2019 by RocketMan275

[QueSeraSera]

4 hours ago, donaldsc said:

try a bolo tie

 

Changing the subject a little, I confess I did not know what a bolo tie was, but Amazon sells them if you are also curious.  Clo, you probably see them out west.  I can't be the only guy who will check in with DW before ordering something new like this.

[clo]

8 minutes ago, QueSeraSera said:

Clo, you probably see them out west.

DON'T GET ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Old farts occasionally show up in one.

[ColinIllinois]

1 hour ago, RocketMan275 said:

Why is the 'ambiance' of some more important than the 'ambiance' of others?  

Have you noticed the more upscale cruise lines have the most relaxed dress codes?

 

You are deflecting on the discussion here.  Example:   If NCL advertises the LeBistro restaurant as having a particular dress code such as a collared shirt, slacks, no sandals and I want to go there because it creates a certain ambiance that I want to dine in then I should have an expectancy that everyone will be dressed appropriately.  Pretty simple to understand. 

 

If you don't choose to wear slacks and a collared shirt there are specialty restaurant where the dress code allows you to wear shorts, jeans, etc.  Again, simple to understand.  In other words, there is something for everyone.

 

No customer is more important than another but the cruise lines cater to the old adage of "different strokes for different folks".

 

Can't make it much simpler to understand than that.

[c-boy]

Rocket I imagine after 8 years of being told, what and how to wear clothing your in the throws of a newly found and exhilarating  phase in your life.

[RocketMan275]

24 minutes ago, ColinIllinois said:

 

Can't make it much simpler to understand than that.

What I don't understand is this: why do you let another person's apparel affect your 'ambiance'?

If you're sitting with two gentlemen, one wearing slacks and the other blue jeans, does their apparel change your appreciation of their company?  Do you let their clothing affect your judgement? 

Edited August 19, 2019 by RocketMan275

[ColeThornton]

23 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

What I don't understand is this: why do you let another person's apparel affect your 'ambiance'?

If you're sitting with two gentlemen, one wearing slacks and the other blue jeans, does their apparel change your appreciation of their company?  Do you let their clothing affect your judgement? 

 

You either don't get it, think it's all about you or have no experience in dining in nice places.

 

I'll try one last time:   If a place is advertised as having a certain ambiance and someone comes in looking like a bum then that ambiance isn't present.  That particular dress code is what I like and so do others dining in that establishment.

 

I'll leave it at that. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by ColeThornton

[RocketMan275]

12 minutes ago, ColeThornton said:

 

You either don't get it, think it's all about you or have no experience in dining in nice places.

 

I'll try one last time:   If a place is advertised as having a certain ambiance and someone comes in looking like a bum then that ambiance isn't present.  That particular dress code is what I like and so do others dining in that establishment.

 

I'll leave it at that. 

Oh, I've dined in some very fine places and I've learned that what others wear doesn't affect me in the slightest.

What I truly don't understand is the belief that one's own pleasure (ambiance) is so important that it justifies taking pleasure from others.

[donaldsc]

1 hour ago, clo said:

DON'T GET ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Old farts occasionally show up in one.

 

Mine are high class and custom made usually by Navajo, Hopi and Alaskan First Nation Peoples.  They really look good.

 

DON

[ColinIllinois]

21 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said:

 

What I truly don't understand is the belief that one's own pleasure (ambiance) is so important that it justifies taking pleasure from others.

 

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you just made his point for him.

 

 

Edited August 19, 2019 by ColinIllinois

[clo]

15 minutes ago, donaldsc said:

Old farts occasionally show up in one.

LOL.

[clo]

1 hour ago, ColinIllinois said:

In other words, there is something for everyone.

And cruise ships are the only venues I can think of where that's the case.  You can dress any WAY you want but not any WHERE you want.  Is there a word for arguing just for the sake of arguing?

[Icon901]

58 minutes ago, ColinIllinois said:

 

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you just made his point for him.

 

 

 

😄 right?! That made me laugh... 

[Icon901]

7 hours ago, RocketMan275 said:

I'm quite comfortable in a pair of cargo pants, a polo shirt, and my 'tennies'.  However, I doubt that is sufficient for the 'dress to impress' crowd. 

 

Your “tennies” are unacceptable for main dining room (and other lounges/bars) on Celebrity as well as several other lines. 

 

The cargo pants (while horribly out of fashion) are suitable.... as is the polo shirt... so you’re good to go there. 🙂 

Edited August 20, 2019 by Icon901