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My daughter and i are spending five nights in Singapore, Almost booked an add on spur of the moment five day cruise from Singapore on the Quantum but then read the very bad reviews based on its China sailings pretty much saying if you are a Westerner dont do it

 

Is the ship experience going to be the same when its based in Singapore?  Will anything be altered before it starts its Singapore season.  

Complaints were things like 

Lack of coffee available (i really  neeed my coffee)  no specialty coffees available 

All Food only catering for the Asian Market

Things that dont normally cost having a cost or only available for suite guests

Pushing Shoving Arguing 

English speaking tours and activities canceled ,

reviews basically saying ship totally catering to Asian Market only and if you are a Westerner..find a different ship/company.  Has me a bit concerned as I am not familiar with that area of the world ..so would leaving from Singapore be the same sort of cruising ?

 

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In my experience, Singapore and China cruises couldn't be more different. I don't think I'd do a cruise out of Shanghai again, but I wouldn't hesitate to do Singapore again.

 

We did Quantum from China and Mariner from Singapore, so ships were very different, but the attitude of the passengers was very different, and much more pleasant on the Singapore cruise. For what it's worth, we didn't have any issues with the food or English tours/activities on the China cruise, but there was a lot more of the ship that catered to suites in China. The biggest downside of our cruise from China was the pushing/shoving/general rudeness. We didn't see any of that in Singapore.

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28 minutes ago, Ru2on said:

Is the ship experience going to be the same when its based in Singapore?  

Unlikely, but we won't know for sure till after her dry dock in Nov.

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I received an email today to inform me that my cruise is a culturally enriching cruise and to be aware that the entertainment etc will be spoken in the main passengers language, chinese.  Also informing me 

quote “Due to the high demand for activities on Culturally Enriching cruises, there is a minimal charge in order to reduce waiting times on Ripcord® by iFly®, North Star®, and SkyPad” 

Seems like cruising from Singapore on this ship may be very similar to cruising. From China?

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On ‎8‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 2:31 PM, Ru2on said:

My daughter and i are spending five nights in Singapore, Almost booked an add on spur of the moment five day cruise from Singapore on the Quantum but then read the very bad reviews based on its China sailings pretty much saying if you are a Westerner dont do it

 

Is the ship experience going to be the same when its based in Singapore?  Will anything be altered before it starts its Singapore season.  

Complaints were things like 

Lack of coffee available (i really  neeed my coffee)  no specialty coffees available (Asians drink Tea, but coffee is available on the ship but maybe not as much - think of this, when an Asian goes to the USA on a ship, they have issues finding Tea)

 

All Food only catering for the Asian Market.  (Food is based on the majority, not the minority - if you go to Asia, you should expect Asian Food....however, there is the regular food that is available.)  Seriously, why would you go to Asia and not eat Asian food?

 

Things that dont normally cost having a cost or only available for suite guests - (Ships in Asia always must follow a different set of rules, that are not the same....China is part owner, and therefore, will set pricing caps, and rules on how to collect revenue....but on the other hands, some things are cheaper, so it balances out but no one ever complains when one item is cheaper, but focus only on the item that is charged!!!! )

 

On ‎8‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 2:31 PM, Ru2on said:

Pushing Shoving Arguing - (if you go to another country, you must understand it is different culture....but on a good note, this is a stereotype that really isn't as bad as it sounds....more like someone booked an Asian cruise, and did not realize they were in China, so looking for the typical things to complain about.)

English speaking tours and activities canceled , (All excursions have a limit before they will do it....but most ports you do not need an excursion.  Taxi's are always available, and your handy iPhone will be your friend. Just do things yourself, and have fun....it's a new country to explore)

 

reviews basically saying ship totally catering to Asian Market only and if you are a Westerner..find a different ship/company.  Has me a bit concerned as I am not familiar with that area of the world ..so would leaving from Singapore be the same sort of cruising ?

 

 

If you are going to Asia, it is different.   Each area is also different.  So Singapore is a great city/country to visit, and it will be different than Shanghai.  However, you must realize when you travel that there are two types of people.  Those that go to Asia, and actually realize they are going to Asia, and then the others, that want to look at Asia out a window, and expect everything to be the same as in the their home country. 

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On 8/21/2019 at 2:31 AM, Ru2on said:

My daughter and i are spending five nights in Singapore, Almost booked an add on spur of the moment five day cruise from Singapore on the Quantum but then read the very bad reviews based on its China sailings pretty much saying if you are a Westerner dont do it

 

Is the ship experience going to be the same when its based in Singapore?  Will anything be altered before it starts its Singapore season.  

Complaints were things like 

Lack of coffee available (i really  neeed my coffee)  no specialty coffees available 

All Food only catering for the Asian Market

Things that dont normally cost having a cost or only available for suite guests

Pushing Shoving Arguing 

English speaking tours and activities canceled ,

reviews basically saying ship totally catering to Asian Market only and if you are a Westerner..find a different ship/company.  Has me a bit concerned as I am not familiar with that area of the world ..so would leaving from Singapore be the same sort of cruising ?

 

Most of the complaints centered around China cruising. 

 

English is widely spoken onboard Royal ships sailing from Singapore. 

 

English Speaking Tours and Activities Canceled: Cruises from Singapore, shore excursions are mainly in English with only 1 or 2 in Chinese. It will not be canceled unless there is a low take up rate. Activities onboard are all held in English including Bingo, Trivia and etc...

 

All Food Only Catering for the Asian Market: It's a Mix between Asian and Western Food. You will not find 100% Asian Food on the Quantum sailing from Singapore.

 

Lack Of Coffee Available: Never have I seen a Quantum Ship sailing from Singapore lacking in coffee and specialty coffee. There is lots around the ship in the cafe promenade, windjammer.

 

Unfortunately, Singapore has decided to follow the China style of charging for activities on-board like North Star, Bumper Cars(Express Lane) and  IFLY. A bad move in my opinion considering the reason they give is not good enough.

 

Pushing, Shoving , Arguing. You may encounter this from time to time but hey, it happens all over the world.   

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We have sailed on Mariner from Singapore-Shanghai and although we found some of the above situations our cruise was NOT noted as "Culturally Enriching" . We had the same similar food that is always available with RCI, announcements were made in English first, crew was mainly non-Asian, and entertainment leaned more western. This seems to have changed as they are now noting "Culturally Enriching" but I would still love to sail this exact itinerary again.

 

No problem getting a seat by the pool....the casino is where you couldn't find one and some shops had been taken over by higher end options. Shop that sold liquor by the bottle was closed. Any sales in the Promenade were just crazy packed, worse than any black Friday I've ever seen...a madhouse..grabbing and fighting over those $10.00 items !!!

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Thanks for the replies, they have reassured me, we ended up booking a five day  5 NIGHT SPICE OF SOUTHEAST ASIA CRUISE.   Leaving & returning to Singapore. Will be a whole new experience for me.

 

It is a shame Royal have decided to charge for activities that are apparently free of charge in other parts of the world but I decided to just get ahead of it(hoping to avoid queues) and prebook the activities on my Cruise Planner. 

Unfortunately although the email I have been sent tells me they will be available to book through Cruise Planner they are nowhere to be seen 🤔.  

I do find it quite strangely comical that Royal are advising me that due to the cruise being a Culturally Enriching Cruise they have put a price on free activities .

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1 minute ago, Ru2on said:

Thanks for the replies, they have reassured me, we ended up booking a five day  5 NIGHT SPICE OF SOUTHEAST ASIA CRUISE.   Leaving & returning to Singapore. Will be a whole new experience for me.

 

It is a shame Royal have decided to charge for activities that are apparently free of charge in other parts of the world but I decided to just get ahead of it(hoping to avoid queues) and prebook the activities on my Cruise Planner. 

Unfortunately although the email I have been sent tells me they will be available to book through Cruise Planner they are nowhere to be seen 🤔.  

I do find it quite strangely comical that Royal are advising me that due to the cruise being a Culturally Enriching Cruise they have put a price on free activities .

Keep checking your cruise planner as it may be too early to book onboard activities.

I actually don't find it strange that their charging for these specific onboard things....Organization is key when many onboard don't (will not) understand the concept of standing in line. I could see this getting out of hand if there was no fee.

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On 9/5/2019 at 2:50 AM, Ru2on said:

Thanks for the replies, they have reassured me, we ended up booking a five day  5 NIGHT SPICE OF SOUTHEAST ASIA CRUISE.   Leaving & returning to Singapore. Will be a whole new experience for me.

 

It is a shame Royal have decided to charge for activities that are apparently free of charge in other parts of the world but I decided to just get ahead of it(hoping to avoid queues) and prebook the activities on my Cruise Planner. 

Unfortunately although the email I have been sent tells me they will be available to book through Cruise Planner they are nowhere to be seen 🤔.  

I do find it quite strangely comical that Royal are advising me that due to the cruise being a Culturally Enriching Cruise they have put a price on free activities .

 

Oh I am so disappointed hearing this.  We sailed Ovation out of Singapore and it was not a culturally enriching cruise.  Neither was there a price on the "usual" included activities.  However, right up to I think the start of the short season, nobody at Royal knew if the Royal Suite Class perks would be included (this was way before they standardised that all sailings on Ovation out of Sydney and Singapore would have the RSC system).  In fact, Royal was telling us to expect the same sort of cruise experience as those departing from Chinese ports.  We have a sailing on Quantum booked in December so I am hoping the same thing will happen again - fingers crossed.

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