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Oh that’s really interesting. On Princess, each person in the family has independent status of one another. I can see how Royal’s protocol would multiple the number of high status pax!

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2 hours ago, Baron Barracuda said:

Our daughters are all D on their own merit, but when the oldest honeymooned on Freedom her new dh became diamond on his first ever cruise.

 

Wouldn't a simple fix be to handle legacy treatment on a cruise by cruise basis?  On sailings where spouse / children accompany  D member they receive D treatment,  otherwise they are treated according to their own earned status.  No permanent status upgrades.

 

If a child becomes D inherited from the parents, and then lives with someone who then becomes D automatically, are you saying that if that someone moves out they would get to keep D status? We paid dearly for this status, and shouldn’t be handed out so freely.

i hope I read that wrong.

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17 minutes ago, lovesthebeach2 said:

 

If a child becomes D inherited from the parents, and then lives with someone who then becomes D automatically, are you saying that if that someone moves out they would get to keep D status? We paid dearly for this status, and shouldn’t be handed out so freely.

i hope I read that wrong.

No you didn’t... see my example ^^^

 

Personally I think if you don’t cruise with 2 years then the clock should be reset.... as the current situation is, they have created a monster. 

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It’s hard to tell if people are aggrieved because the diamond status is inheritable or because they feel it makes the DL overcrowded. Personally I think the thread overall highlights how little benefit there is to being diamond. We will be diamond on our next cruise but have already bought the drinks package and didn’t get a balcony discount because we are a family of five and always stay in ultra spacious cabins. Don’t see any other benefit worth talking about.  

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2 hours ago, Host Clarea said:

 

Sure, that would be nice, but that is a completely new perk.  The 3 drinks per night are meant to ease crowding in the lounges, where the free drink perk already existed.

Celebrity introduced unlimited drinks in the bars during cocktail hour a few months ago... not just 3.  Of course their cocktail hour is only 2 hrs vs the 3 1/2 hrs that RCI give ...! 

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12 hours ago, ZiggaZagga17 said:

move in together is all that's required!

 

Don't even have to move in together. Just using the same address is all that's needed. 

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26 minutes ago, little britain said:

No you didn’t... see my example ^^^

 

Personally I think if you don’t cruise with 2 years then the clock should be reset.... as the current situation is, they have created a monster. 

I’m pretty sure that the execs don’t see it as a monster but a hugely successful loyalty program that gets people coming back.

 

The only ones that see it as a monster are the ones complaining about no seats in the lounge.  Quite frankly Royal doesn’t give a **** about that.  They’ve added the 3 drinks anywhere to alleviate those concerns, at least from their perspective.  

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3 hours ago, Baron Barracuda said:

Our daughters are all D on their own merit, but when the oldest honeymooned on Freedom her new dh became diamond on his first ever cruise.

 

Wouldn't a simple fix be to handle legacy treatment on a cruise by cruise basis?  On sailings where spouse / children accompany  D member they receive D treatment,  otherwise they are treated according to their own earned status.  No permanent status upgrades.

 

That makes a LOT of sense.

 

Sort of like the airlines.  If I travel with my SO, she can check in using the elite line.  Get into lounges.  And board early.

 

On her own, she only has her own status.

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17 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I’m pretty sure that the execs don’t see it as a monster but a hugely successful loyalty program that gets people coming back.

 

The only ones that see it as a monster are the ones complaining about no seats in the lounge.  Quite frankly Royal doesn’t give a **** about that.  They’ve added the 3 drinks anywhere to alleviate those concerns, at least from their perspective.  

 

great post.  

M

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If you give someone something (e.g.: inherited Diamond status as a minor), then take it away, that's going to create ill will and 'push' young cruisers to other brands. 

 

1st Off, many 'legal' adults (18 years old) are still in high school, and/or 'functional children' (e.g.: economically dependent on parents, who likely paid for their cruise). Suddenly telling them after years of diamond lounge access they can't go isn't the way to get loyalty. 

 

My wife and I were 1 7-day cruise away from hitting Diamond level. Our little girl has been on 6 7-day cruises; she's whatever 42 points gets you (we're interior stateroom folks). The knowledge that we're advancing toward diamond level encourages me to keep booking Royal, despite the temptation to go sample NCL or Carnival's products. The idea we can set our daughter up as 'diamond for life' is that much more incentive. 

 

Absent the loyalty programs, there are enough similarities amongst lines many people 'line jump' back and forth as it is. Maintaining goodwill in the current loyalty program arrangement sounds like good business sense for Royal. 

 

Richard.

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19 hours ago, gaylemh said:

A lot of people will disagree with me, but this is a big part of why the diamond lounges are so crowded.  A child could go on one cruise and get their parents D or D+ status - marries and the spouse gets the same status and then their children, and it goes on and on, even if they only had a couple of points they earned themselves.  I really think that once the children reach a certain age, they should have to earn their own tiers.

They do.  Once they turn 18 they can not inherit their patents level.  We were Platinum when our daughter turned 18, and she had the same points as her parents.  This past June, she made Diamond on her own point count.  Yes, her husband and two small boys are now Diamond with less points.  We made Diamond in 2005 and it took 14 more years for our daughter to make it on her own.  It would appear that you want 18 changed to a lower age.

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4 hours ago, Billy Baltic said:

It’s hard to tell if people are aggrieved because the diamond status is inheritable or because they feel it makes the DL overcrowded. Personally I think the thread overall highlights how little benefit there is to being diamond. We will be diamond on our next cruise but have already bought the drinks package and didn’t get a balcony discount because we are a family of five and always stay in ultra spacious cabins. Don’t see any other benefit worth talking about.  

 

Some ultra spacious cabins have balconies 😉

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I'm still at the age where I'm buying the drink package every cruise to because I don't drink wine by the glass and the discount on the good bottles is worth it to me 😉

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Our daughter inherited Emerald status. She turned 18 and was one night away from Diamond. We were already diamond. Our thinking was that on her next cruise she would turn diamond. Didn’t happen. Called and was told she would retain Emerald status but would need to start over from zero and work her way up on her own. 

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12 minutes ago, cruisecrazymama said:

Our daughter inherited Emerald status. She turned 18 and was one night away from Diamond. We were already diamond. Our thinking was that on her next cruise she would turn diamond. Didn’t happen. Called and was told she would retain Emerald status but would need to start over from zero and work her way up on her own. 

 

She would only start over at zero if she had not gone on any cruises.

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8 hours ago, MichiganMan4 said:

Cruise lines should look to take a page from the Airline and Hotel industry.... bestow Elite Status on rolling basis - not forever.   Regular purging of the ranks is good for everyone.   Casino Royale already does this today. 

 

Very easy to implement... $$ Revenue or ## of nights over rolling period (e.g 24/36/48 months).   All based up actual travel (aka BIS -Butts in Seats) to count and very limited (if any) ability to transfer to others.   Sorry Junior - you don’t get mom and dads upgrades.   

 

Reward your customers who are actually spending money with you today (not 10+ years ago).  

 

But in both the airline and hotel industry's you can earn lifetime status with enough time at the elite levels.  I call that Pinnacle.

Edited by cruisegus

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3 hours ago, WeMissSeaView said:

They do.  Once they turn 18 they can not inherit their patents level.  We were Platinum when our daughter turned 18, and she had the same points as her parents.  This past June, she made Diamond on her own point count.  Yes, her husband and two small boys are now Diamond with less points.  We made Diamond in 2005 and it took 14 more years for our daughter to make it on her own.  It would appear that you want 18 changed to a lower age.

I never mentioned an age in my post.  All I was saying is that a child should be able to have their parents level, but after they reach a certain age, I would think 21 or 22 when they are out of school, they should go back to the level that they actually earned. I don't think it's right that an adult is getting the same D+ discounts and perks as me , when they could have only had to sail on one cruise.  I realize there are lots of kids that have earned their level by sailing the number of nights required and they earned the right to keep their level.

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15 hours ago, kruzerci said:

Did the children policy change in the past couple of years? I have always read that the children should get the same status as the parents until they are 18 years old.  After age 18, they retain whatever status they have accumulated (if they are Diamond because of their parents, they remain Diamond) but they will not get to the next level until they accumulate enough points on their own to warrant the next step.

Our daughter became Diamond Plus with one cruise based on our status.  She kept that until she changed her address at age 22. at that time she was reduced to Diamond and will not get to D+ until she gets it on her own.

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On 9/6/2019 at 10:06 PM, CRUISEFOUR said:

Our Daughter inherited our Diamond status when she was younger. She is now 22 years old and has Diamond status with 66 points. If she marries does her spouse become Diamond with 66 points.

 

Thanks!

McKenna is getting married????

 

AH!!!!

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22 hours ago, twangster said:

 

  • You don't see millennials in the DL because they are in the workforce compared to retirees who typically are older so you see an older crowd in the DL more.  This actually proves that Diamond by child proxy aren't the issue contributing to DL crowds.
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Couldn't agree more to this...

 

I'm 41, and my wife is (late 30's.... that's as specific as i think i can get without getting in trouble) 

 

We're about to hit diamond plus.  We have been diamond for what seems like FOREVER, definitely the past 10 years.

 

We typically sail once a year, if then, because, yes, we work.

 

I get 2 weeks vacation,  1 week to cruise (or something else) and the rest i use to take more time off during the holidays.  

 

That's been the case my entire adult life.

 

We went in the diamond lounge for the first time ever on Vision of the seas THIS YEAR.

 

I went inside to have the concierge help me with a billing issue.  He was helpful and I popped in maybe  2-3 other times during the cruise for other little random things I could have him help me with rather than go to guest services.

 

During the day there was a lady in there knitting, and 1 guy reading, and another sleeping or it was empty.

 

It was silent.

 

Just wasn't for me.

 

I just have no interest in sitting in a quiet room.  If I'm going to read or sleep or if I knitted, I'll be on my balcony taking in the sea air or by the pool. 

 

Had the same conversation with a couple we met on board another ship.  They were,  in their 30's, in a suite and   they were diamond plus. I asked how was the suite lounge and despite it being day 5 of our 7 day cruise, they said they hadn't been in there yet.  Despite the fact they were diamond plus (earned themselves... took first cruise in college) they had never been in the lounges either.  We all laughed when we said neither had we.

 

I just don't think it has the same appeal to a different generation. 

 

I love my status!  We're super excited to hit Diamond plus next year.  Why? 

 

The freebies I get from RCI.  Not for the lounge.  

 

I love all the coupons and discounts and little extras.

 

I think the lounge is crowded because more people are sailing, i just don't see the 20 -somerthings who love thrill seeking and adventure flocking to that quiet room.

 

And once you're my age and have kids, you travel with your kids and many of us are not going to take them into the lounge. You're by the pool!   We also do early dinner, so it's get back from the island, quickly bathe kids and change and pray you get to dinner in time.   After, it's find 1 or 2  activities before you have to get the kids back to the room and begin bedtime routines.

 

 

When we do our kid-free cruise to the med --- maybe we'll try to pop in more -- but we'll probably have a drink package, and I again think i'd much rather be out where the action is.... 

 

Hit me up in a few years and maybe I will be complaining about all the people in the diamond lounge.  🙂

 

 

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LOL. If you think being Diamond feels like forever...wait until you get Diamond+ and it is forever and a day. :classic_biggrin:

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2 hours ago, RCCL Fan said:

McKenna is getting married????

 

AH!!!!

Nope...just hypothetically thinking. Besides, millennials don’t get married!😉

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2 hours ago, RCCL Fan said:

 

When we do our kid-free cruise to the med --- maybe we'll try to pop in more -- but we'll probably have a drink package, and I again think i'd much rather be out where the action is.... 

 

🙂

 

 

Rhapsody has a lovely DL at the back of the 'shall we dance' lounge. Great views, and easy to take your nibbles and drink into the main lounge if you want to escape the DL. The concierge, Alan (?) was amazing. Enjoyed the continental breakfast set up too a few morning's and great coffee

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4 hours ago, Blizzard54 said:

at that time she was reduced to Diamond and will not get to D+ until she gets it on her own.

How long ago was this? This is the first report of a demotion I have read other than when someone got to a level by mistake. 

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