Port Botany cruise terminal

[gbenjo]

1 hour ago, in rod we trust said:

yep cruise ships brings nothing to the economy just pollution  .. better to fly and stay longer in a country and see more of it.. there is real action and concerns now over the proposed third cruise terminal , which is great news and more and more people are against destroying a whole bay just for royal carribean mega polluting ships .. so that is great fantastic news .. gov and royal carribean need to listen before it starts to impact them as it will 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🚢🤑

[lyndarra]

2 hours ago, in rod we trust said:

yep cruise ships brings nothing to the economy just pollution  .. better to fly and stay longer in a country and see more of it.. there is real action and concerns now over the proposed third cruise terminal , which is great news and more and more people are against destroying a whole bay just for royal carribean mega polluting ships .. so that is great fantastic news .. gov and royal carribean need to listen before it starts to impact them as it will 

And planes don't pollute? How about the exhaust fumes and particulate fallout from take offs and landings at the airport. You've not mentioned that. How many a day? Must be getting close to 30,000 movements a day - 27,000+ Jan 2019.

It is predicted that ships coming here will have to shut down their power generators while port and use land sourced power. This is already happening in other parts of the world, so why not in Port Botany. Maybe that was redacted?

[gbenjo]

47 minutes ago, lyndarra said:

And planes don't pollute? How about the exhaust fumes and particulate fallout from take offs and landings at the airport. You've not mentioned that. How many a day? Must be getting close to 30,000 movements a day - 27,000+ Jan 2019.

It is predicted that ships coming here will have to shut down their power generators while port and use land sourced power. This is already happening in other parts of the world, so why not in Port Botany. Maybe that was redacted?

Or conveniently  overlooked perhaps. 

[lyndarra]

52 minutes ago, lyndarra said:

And planes don't pollute? How about the exhaust fumes and particulate fallout from take offs and landings at the airport. You've not mentioned that. How many a day? Must be getting close to 30,000 movements a day - 27,000+ Jan 2019.

It is predicted that ships coming here will have to shut down their power generators while port and use land sourced power. This is already happening in other parts of the world, so why not in Port Botany. Maybe that was redacted?

That should read movements per month not day. My bad. It's still a lot.

[MicCanberra]

13 minutes ago, lyndarra said:

That should read movements per month not day. My bad. It's still a lot.

I was sure you meant 30,000 movements a day but then most get flushed away, straight to Bondi.

[lyndarra]

29 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

I was sure you meant 30,000 movements a day but then most get flushed away, straight to Bondi.

Now you're yanking my chain!

[gbenjo]

1 hour ago, MicCanberra said:

I was sure you meant 30,000 movements a day but then most get flushed away, straight to Bondi.

As long as it does not float back into Botany Bay. Can’t have those nice white hulls of the cruise ships being stained while they are tied up at the new terminal.😱

[MicCanberra]

43 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

As long as it does not float back into Botany Bay. Can’t have those nice white hulls of the cruise ships being stained while they are tied up at the new terminal.😱

Floaters can be quite pesky, especially when in the surf.

[gbenjo]

27 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

Floaters can be quite pesky, especially when in the surf.

I suggest you keep your mouth shut.....about it. 😁

Edited January 19, 2020 by gbenjo

[MicCanberra]

56 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

I suggest you keep your mouth shut.....about it. 😁

I don't swim at Sydney's beaches, haven't done so since the eighties and that was North Narrabeen. Now, I would either swim Central Coast or Sapphire Coast for beach swimming.

[gbenjo]

5 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

I don't swim at Sydney's beaches, haven't done so since the eighties and that was North Narrabeen. Now, I would either swim Central Coast or Sapphire Coast for beach swimming.

No polywaffles floating there 😁

[MicCanberra]

4 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

No polywaffles floating there 😁

More importantly, no Chocitos either.

[gbenjo]

4 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

More importantly, no Chocitos either.

 

4 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

More importantly, no Chocitos either.

😱

[MicCanberra]

20 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

 

😱

💩

[in rod we trust]

In 2002 the Carnival Corporation pleaded guilty in United States District Court in Miami to criminal charges related to falsifying records of the oil-contaminated bilge water that six of its ships dumped into the sea from 1996 through 2001. The Carnival Corporation was ordered to pay $18 million in fines and perform community service, received five years' probation and must submit to a court-supervised worldwide environmental-compliance program for each of its cruise ships.^[24]

For dumping oiled waste into the seas and attempted cover-up Princess Cruise Lines was fined $40 million in 2016. According to federal authorities, it was the "largest-ever criminal penalty" for intentional vessel pollution. Officials said that these practices began in 2005 and persisted until August 2013, when a newly hired engineer blew the whistle. As part of its plea agreement, ships of the parent company Carnival Cruise lines were subjected to a court supervised environmental compliance plan for five years.^[25]

For violation of the probation terms of 2016 Carnival and its Princess line were ordered to pay an additional $20 million penalty in 2019. The new violations included discharging plastic into waters in the Bahamas, falsifying records and interfering with court supervision

 

as you can read they are still dumping stuff at sea .. I guess to some people if you cannot see the destruction its not happening ..   only when people can see it will they believe it.. but by then it will probably be to late as with everything in Australia .. 

 

[in rod we trust]

expect to see a few of these accidents if the terminal goes ahead at botany bay due to big swells and high winds 

 

[in rod we trust]

and I bet this will happen at botany bay due to big swells  and bad winds that get much worse than these in this vid  if this happens it will end up smashing the terminal or beached 

 

[in rod we trust]

in botany we have wind guts over 50ks easy at times in summer  im sure your going to experience of few of these ..

 

[in rod we trust]

 

[MicCanberra]

Many accidents have happened over a long period of time all over the world. I think you had better stay home Rod, the world is just too unsafe for you.

[gbenjo]

9 hours ago, in rod we trust said:

In 2002 the Carnival Corporation pleaded guilty in United States District Court in Miami to criminal charges related to falsifying records of the oil-contaminated bilge water that six of its ships dumped into the sea from 1996 through 2001. The Carnival Corporation was ordered to pay $18 million in fines and perform community service, received five years' probation and must submit to a court-supervised worldwide environmental-compliance program for each of its cruise ships.^[24]

For dumping oiled waste into the seas and attempted cover-up Princess Cruise Lines was fined $40 million in 2016. According to federal authorities, it was the "largest-ever criminal penalty" for intentional vessel pollution. Officials said that these practices began in 2005 and persisted until August 2013, when a newly hired engineer blew the whistle. As part of its plea agreement, ships of the parent company Carnival Cruise lines were subjected to a court supervised environmental compliance plan for five years.^[25]

For violation of the probation terms of 2016 Carnival and its Princess line were ordered to pay an additional $20 million penalty in 2019. The new violations included discharging plastic into waters in the Bahamas, falsifying records and interfering with court supervision

 

as you can read they are still dumping stuff at sea .. I guess to some people if you cannot see the destruction its not happening ..   only when people can see it will they believe it.. but by then it will probably be to late as with everything in Australia .. 

 

$40mil fine...is just a “drop in the ocean”  for those greedy cruise lines. No mention of Royal Caribbean , aren’t they the only ones using the Port Botany terminal , seeing that they are paying for it??????????

[in rod we trust]

2 hours ago, gbenjo said:

$40mil fine...is just a “drop in the ocean”  for those greedy cruise lines. No mention of Royal Caribbean , aren’t they the only ones using the Port Botany terminal , seeing that they are paying for it??????????

 

they are just as bad but only have the brains to do it at night when nobody's looking

[gbenjo]

30 minutes ago, in rod we trust said:

 

they are just as bad but only have the brains to do it at night when nobody's looking

Ah I see.......hundreds of miles out to sea .....there must be people watching the ships in the day but they go home at night.....gotcha...Gee, I wish I knew as much about cruising and how the cruise lines operate as you do.

Edited January 20, 2020 by gbenjo

[in rod we trust]

Just now, gbenjo said:

Ah I see.......hundreds of miles out to sea .....there must be people watching the ships in the day but they go home at night.....gotcha

 

they are floating garbage can's .. they do more harm to the environment and eco system than good … this world is on a tipping point atm ..so its just a matter of time when people will see just how bad they are and stop cruising or boycott these ships .. there are protest happening all over the world , they have the hide  to even want to destroy the cayman islands just for greed and now botany bay just for there greed .. times are changing people are being conscious of the environment now .. so its just a matter of time .. liberal gov of nsw is stuffing up by the day so when they get booted out the port will not be built 

[gbenjo]

Just now, in rod we trust said:

 

they are floating garbage can's .. they do more harm to the environment and eco system than good … this world is on a tipping point atm ..so its just a matter of time when people will see just how bad they are and stop cruising or boycott these ships .. there are protest happening all over the world , they have the hide  to even want to destroy the cayman islands just for greed and now botany bay just for there greed .. times are changing people are being conscious of the environment now .. so its just a matter of time .. liberal gov of nsw is stuffing up by the day so when they get booted out the port will not be built 

Unless it is already built.