Switching Cabins without consent of parents if a minor is in the room?

[gerif]

31 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Just have the daughter sleep in your room on the fold out couch regardless of what room she is assigned in. 

A cabin rated for two does not HAVE a foldout couch. 

[plaz70]

I would move to a cabin for 3.  It may have been convenient for you to book 3 cabins this way, but I don't blame your sister for wanting a friend to hang out with.  A lot can happen in 2 years.  She's your child and she's only 5.  She should have been booked in your room from the start.  Or keep her on your sister's reservation when she moves and just have her sleep on the couch in your room. 

[not-enough-cruising]

5 minutes ago, Grandma Dazzles said:

 

If cabin is not designated as a 3 person cabin you can’t do this - might not even have a couch. Cabin has to be for 3 people.  

I’ve never seen an ocean view balcony cabin without a couch. 

 

[not-enough-cruising]

6 minutes ago, gerif said:

A cabin rated for two does not HAVE a foldout couch. 

They never said the room was rated for 2, only that it was cheaper to book it this way. 

[Grandma Dazzles]

15 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

I’ve never seen an ocean view balcony cabin without a couch. 

 

 

Not necessarily a sofa sleeper pull out couch. Has to be designated for three people - muster station comes into play. You can’t just let someone sleep “on the couch.”  

[not-enough-cruising]

3 minutes ago, Grandma Dazzles said:

 

Not necessarily a sofa sleeper pull out couch. Has to be designated for three people - muster station comes into play. You can’t just let someone sleep “on the couch.”  

Happens all the time, people sleep wherever; no one cares. After Muster drill, the muster stations don’t matter. 

[snowglobe]

32 minutes ago, Grandma Dazzles said:

 

If cabin is not designated as a 3 person cabin you can’t do this - might not even have a couch. Cabin has to be for 3 people.  

Not necessarily.

[mjkacmom]

5 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Happens all the time, people sleep wherever; no one cares. After Muster drill, the muster stations don’t matter. 

But NCL is not going allow a 3rd passenger to be booked in a cabin for 2, and the OP’s family all have cabins that max out at 2 passengers.

[gatour]

29 minutes ago, taglovestocruise said:

Get a cabin for three.  Do you really want your 5 year old sharing a cabin with 2 drunk and partying 21 year olds.  Hate to assume but the writing is on the wall. 

The OP never mentioned the sister's age.  Bob mentioned that if the sister is over 21 she can whatever she wants.

 

I think the real question,  did the parents booked their using their own payment method.  The sister booked a cabin including the 5 year old using her own payment method and behind the scenes the parents reimbursed her for the 5 year old portion of the fare.  If so the sister "owns" the booking and can do a change name at her will.

 

Now if the parents booked and payed for their cabin and also paid for the sister's cabin (along with child).  The sister reimbursing the parents for her portion of the cost.  Who "owns" the reservation is the question.

 

I don't know.  Is it the person that did the original booking and made the deposit along with additional payments, no matter who is the "primary" guest in the cabin.  Or is it the "primary guest in the cabin.

[taglovestocruise]

34 minutes ago, Grandma Dazzles said:

 

If cabin is not designated as a 3 person cabin you can’t do this - might not even have a couch. Cabin has to be for 3 people.  

Not really always true. We were on Oasis with our son, girlfriend and his daughter in a cabin three doors down.  Several times son and girlfriend wanted to stay out late and leave granddaughter with us.  Our cabin steward brought in several towels and pillows and a blanket and made up the couch for her, no problem if we let him know early enough.  She was 11 and the couch was a bit tight, for a 5 year old there would be plenty of room. That being said the OP should change to a cabin for three and let his sister do her own thing,  someone will still end up paying for a extra guest.

[not-enough-cruising]

3 minutes ago, mjkacmom said:

But NCL is not going allow a 3rd passenger to be booked in a cabin for 2, and the OP’s family all have cabins that max out at 2 passengers.

First of all this itinerary is on Royal Caribbean not NCL, and I NEVER said anything about booking a 3rd passenger in a 2 passenger room. 

You can have 10 people sleeping in an interior room if you want (uncomfortable yes) but the cruise line doesn’t give 2 hoots about how many people are sleeping in a room regardless of the category.  

Having taken MANY multi generational trips over the years, the sleeping arrangements are always like a game of musical chairs once everyone is on board and muster drill is completed. Heck, many of the grand kids sleep in a different spot every night. 

NO ONE CARES 

[snowglobe]

10 minutes ago, mjkacmom said:

But NCL is not going allow a 3rd passenger to be booked in a cabin for 2, and the OP’s family all have cabins that max out at 2 passengers.

Even if the cabins are maxed out for 2, no one on the ship will care where a 5-year-old actually sleeps. Swapping kids in cabins is more commonplace than you’d think... a tired 5-year-old will fall asleep wherever you set her up to.

 

This is all pointless family drama and needless thumping of ‘rules’, when a bit of flexibility and common sense can be put into play. Wherever the 5-year-old ends up on paper does not write in stone where she could end up sleeping, unless the parents really don’t want her with them during “their” vacation.

Edited October 13, 2019 by snowglobe

[mjkacmom]

1 minute ago, not-enough-cruising said:

First of all this itinerary is on Royal Caribbean not NCL, and I NEVER said anything about booking a 3rd passenger in a 2 passenger room. 

You can have 10 people sleeping in an interior room if you want (uncomfortable yes) but the cruise line doesn’t give 2 hoots about how many people are sleeping in a room regardless of the category.  

Having taken MANY multi generational trips over the years, the sleeping arrangements are always like a game of musical chairs once everyone is on board and muster drill is completed. Heck, many of the grand kids sleep in a different spot every night. 

NO ONE CARES 

 

1 minute ago, not-enough-cruising said:

First of all this itinerary is on Royal Caribbean not NCL, and I NEVER said anything about booking a 3rd passenger in a 2 passenger room. 

You can have 10 people sleeping in an interior room if you want (uncomfortable yes) but the cruise line doesn’t give 2 hoots about how many people are sleeping in a room regardless of the category.  

Having taken MANY multi generational trips over the years, the sleeping arrangements are always like a game of musical chairs once everyone is on board and muster drill is completed. Heck, many of the grand kids sleep in a different spot every night. 

NO ONE CARES 

Oops, but it’s the same with RCL, the OP indicated that the cabins only sleep 2, which is the only reason her sister was looking into switching cabins. Otherwise the 5 year old would be fine in any cabin. It’s not going to work.

[taglovestocruise]

3 minutes ago, snowglobe said:

. , unless the parents really don’t want her with them during “their” vacation.

You hit the nail squarely on the head. 👍

Edited October 13, 2019 by taglovestocruise

[gerif]

39 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

They never said the room was rated for 2, only that it was cheaper to book it this way. 

If it were rated for three it would be a simple matter to switch cabins with the sister whose cabin is rated for two, so apparently their room is rated for two as well. 

[mjkacmom]

3 minutes ago, snowglobe said:

Even if the cabins are maxed out for 2, no one on the ship will care where a 5-year-old actually sleeps. Swapping kids in cabins is more commonplace than you’d think... a tired 5-year-old will fall asleep wherever you set her up to.

 

This is all pointless family drama and needless thumping of ‘rules’, when a bit of flexibility and common sense can be put into play. Wherever the 5-year-old ends up on paper does not write in stone where she could end up sleeping, unless the parents really don’t want her with them during “their” vacation.

Three cabins, max of 6 guests, sister’s friend will not be able to be booked in any of these cabins.

[snowglobe]

1 minute ago, mjkacmom said:

Three cabins, max of 6 guests, sister’s friend will not be able to be booked in any of these cabins.

Which is why it comes onto the friend to book a single occupancy cheapest GTY cabin that they can get, then move into the sister’s cabin once onboard. It’s the only way to keep those 3 balcony cabins where they are & not mess with the original booking conditions. That’s the common sense solution, and it becomes the tag-along friend’s responsibility to bear the cost of joining her friend already booked on this cruise.

 

It also implies that the 5-year old sleep in her parents’ cabin... which seems to be where the real issue lies... pardon the pun.

[mjkacmom]

The best solution would be to book a cabin for 3, sister and her friend sleep there, daughter sleeps in the parent’s cabin. Sister probably won’t mind being away from family.

[snowglobe]

And if the sister does own the booking and changes the cabin to a triple elsewhere, then it’s up to the parents to take their 5-year-old to sleep in their cabin with them, period - “proper” bed available for her or not.

 

Next cruise, the OP should plan on having their kid with them right from the get-go, or be prepared to book a single adult + one adult & one kid, to get two adjoining cabins. Again, no one ever cares who ultimately sleeps where.
 

They should also probably avoid another ‘family’ cruise.

[mjkacmom]

5 minutes ago, snowglobe said:

And if the sister does own the booking and changes the cabin to a triple elsewhere, then it’s up to the parents to take their 5-year-old to sleep in their cabin with them, period - “proper” bed available for her or not.

 

Next cruise, the OP should plan on having their kid with them right from the get-go, or be prepared to book a single adult + one adult & one kid, to get two adjoining cabins. Again, no one ever cares who ultimately sleeps where.
 

They should also probably avoid another ‘family’ cruise.

I don’t think there was anything wrong with booking the 5 year old with her aunt, and plan on her sleeping there, it’s cheaper and less squished. Heck, some if my kids didn’t sleep in our cabin (because there are 5 of them and we don’t fit). However, if the friend joins, the OP can either have the child decks away, or have her sleep in their cabin. Of course, if the OP is paying for all, no friend.

[cruisinfanatic]

1 hour ago, Grandma Dazzles said:

 

If cabin is not designated as a 3 person cabin you can’t do this - might not even have a couch. Cabin has to be for 3 people.  

Can't be booked that way, but the child can certainly sleep anywhere

Edited October 13, 2019 by cruisinfanatic

[vacationlover_mn]

1 hour ago, taglovestocruise said:

Get a cabin for three.  Do you really want your 5 year old sharing a cabin with 2 drunk and partying 21 year olds.  Hate to assume but the writing is on the wall. 

I agree.  I also feel bad for the OP, to have to deal with the change 😞

[hazence]

In my humble opinion, it all depends on who is paying. If OP paid for the two rooms...then the friend needs to get her own room and the sister needs to keep her part of the original bargain. 

 

If Sister bought her own room, she gets to change the plan...though it’s pretty inconsiderate and may make the trip less than pleasant.

 

if the Parents paid, they need to mediate this between their two children. If it were me, I’d tell Sister that the original plan stands and her friend should book a single.

 

 

 

 

[emdia43]

How was that supposed to work with your 5yr old in another cabin ? What happens if she is ready for bed at 9pm and your sister is still out ? 

[Hogbay]

5 hours ago, Grandma Dazzles said:

 

Not necessarily a sofa sleeper pull out couch. Has to be designated for three people - muster station comes into play. You can’t just let someone sleep “on the couch.”  

Well there is no dog house 😂