Oasis of the Seas Arriving Real Early

[ONECRUISER]

29 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

Airlifts are unusual and last resort. And an airlift would mean that you would have to divert and sail close to land (take you off course heading home). Spend an hour or more at limited speed while the Coast Guard rescue personnel are onboard and assess the patient. Then lift the passenger and family members up into a helicopter. So, rather than being early into port, you would have been late into port making you miss your flight. Better?

Yes last resort, risk and safety can be too high. In 30yrs had more then couple dozen Med Emergencies, we sped up turned around, went to dif Port, missed Ports and had Pilot Boat meet us several times. Even had 5 Emergencies on one 11 nite Cruise. Only twice had airlift, and Family didnt go along. They lowered the basket maintaining speed and took patient away. Didnt even use the Helo Pad....

Edited December 8, 2019 by ONECRUISER

[lovelife]

Officer just told me the individual was on life support. He did not mention a second person.

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

2 hours ago, CP3o said:

I wonder if they give the pax an option, in case they do have medical evacuation insurance up to 100k limit.  I buy these sort of health insurance plans but no idea how hard it would be to actually get covered. Would someone from the ship call insurance company and verify coverage?  It's not something easy to put on a charge card and seek reimbursement later.   If seriously sick I'd rather be tended too sooner than later. 

 Read the fine print it's not just the pax option it's on advice of medical staff.  My evac policies have all required admittance to a hospital, stabilized, and then approval by insurance with consultation by medical staff.  Based on condition the evac can be as little as commercial flight with an EMT.  

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

32 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said:

 They lowered the basket maintaining speed and took patient away. Didnt even use the Helo Pad....

 

I watched the USCG practice that maneuver several times in Long Beach harbor lifting from a harbor police boat, at night no less.  It made for a great evening as we had cocktails on the fantail of  Queen Mary.   

[WeMissSeaView]

There were two.  Watched  two ambulances load up two males.  Two females also came off of the ship and get in the ambulances.  Looks like it was two different passengers.

[ONECRUISER]

40 minutes ago, ATSEAMYLIFE said:

 

I watched the USCG practice that maneuver several times in Long Beach harbor lifting from a harbor police boat, at night no less.  It made for a great evening as we had cocktails on the fantail of  Queen Mary.   

Kool, my ships Basket Lifts were USCG. ...Air Assault Qualified in Army, we repelled

[Illbcruzn4life]

3 hours ago, mafig said:

I agree that airlifting is not the norm.

 

However, I think I read that if the U. S  Coast Guard does the airlifting, there is no charge.  Don't know if this is true or not true.

 

 

That was my understanding also

[ppmanusa]

Was having dinner at Bayside scratching my eyes wondering why the ship was pulling in. 

[Ukigirl]

Everyone becomes an expert .  

[twangster]

First alpha call was early morning (deck two).   By the time the second alpha call occured around 4am (deck eight) we were already making full speed.

 

Had a front row seat from my deck 6 balcony since we pulled in and stopped at the terminal port side to the pier and didn't set any lines.  Two ambulances, two different medical events.  No pictures because I don't take pictures of victims.  Clearly both events appeared to be guests, not crew.

 

As to why no helo evac, no idea, not my business, trust the best decisions were made.  Captain's only address indicated they consulted with shore side resources and determined this was the best course of action.  Good enough for me.

 

After we dropped the two families we did a turn in the basin and tied up normally on starboard just as the Captain said we would.  CBP not available until morning so we finish our cruise at the pier.  Drinks still flowing, entertainment still entertaining, just an early close to casino and shops but they announced that early on so no surprise there.  In the promenade you'd have no idea where we were.  

 

Glad to see two patients being removed while they appeared to be stable.  Trust their care is continuing under full service providers in Miami.  Godspeed and prayers for a full recovery.

 

Running at full out for almost 24 hours I am sure cost a significant fuel penalty.  I saw us doing 25.1 knots at one point which for a ship this size is pretty amazing.  From my perspective it appeared to be handled professionally and well executed.   

Edited December 8, 2019 by twangster

[ONECRUISER]

2 hours ago, Ukigirl said:

Everyone becomes an expert .  

How is that?

[fla gang]

Coast Guard airlifted a passenger off of the Ovation on our Alaska cruise in June. Prayers for the person on the Oasis.

[Milwaukee Eight]

14 hours ago, rcclmiami said:

25 grand for an airlift. Usually not covered by insurance. Found this out from fiancé of first officer on Explorer on a Canada run several years ago. Full speed into Halifax. Guy was dead in the dining room. They got him back and he was awake and waving good bye when they wheeled him off. Watched from balcony.

I wasn’t aware bringing dead people back to life had been perfected yet?

[Joebucks]

I'll be honest, while I would want the best for the passengers, I would be a bit annoyed if my whole vacation had to change. With 5000+ people on one ship, odds are, it's going to happen.

 

With that said, I could live with the casino not being open. Especially when you had the whole cruise to go.

[blueridgemama]

2 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I wasn’t aware bringing dead people back to life had been perfected yet?

 

You've  never heard of CPR being successful? Usually the person is "dead" meaning no pulse or respiration when CPR is instituted. If it  is successful then the "dead" has been brought back to life.

[tunisbridal]

16 hours ago, GTO-Girl said:

We call them “armchair Captains”.  
 

We were on the Harmony for the Hurricane Dorian cruise.  Our 7 days turned into an 11 day cruise, which was fine by me!!!  But with a Cat 5 hurricane sitting between us and the US you should have heard all the “solutions” being offered by some passengers! 
 

It was quite amusing to say the least...

We were on that cruise too!

[not-enough-cruising]

16 hours ago, 2weimies said:

I am not saying the “ affected “ passenger should not get the needed medical care.  Hoping they have a speedy recovery .  Heard some mention of a crew member  not passenger so RCCL is responsible and would what’s BEST for them .  Air lifting passengers is the norm EVEN if US Coast guard gets involved . 
 

HARDLY the “norm” , the “norm” is to get the ship to a dock if at all possible. Airlift is a “last resort” scenario 

[2weimies]

35 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

HARDLY the “norm” , the “norm” is to get the ship to a dock if at all possible. Airlift is a “last resort” scenario 

Closest port was mexico Cozumel we just departed that port maybe 4 hours prior instead of speeding 12 hours to Miami??

[blueridgemama]

4 hours ago, 2weimies said:

Closest port was mexico Cozumel we just departed that port maybe 4 hours prior instead of speeding 12 hours to Miami??

 

Would you rather be treated in Mexico or the United States?

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

8 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I wasn’t aware bringing dead people back to life had been perfected yet?

I did it.  CPR on a "dead" lady.  She was bright blue, no pulse, and not breathing.  In my mind that's dead.  My partner and I gave her CPR until paramedics got there and shocked her eight times to restore her heart beat.  That was 2001 and she's still alive.  One of my most rewarding experiences in 34 years of police work.  I still have the hand drawn thank you card that says, "thank you for saving my Grandma."  

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

22 minutes ago, blueridgemama said:

 

Would you rather be treated in Mexico or the United States?

Depends on how bad off I am.  Mexico has some very fine doctors (trained in the US) and hospitals (certified to US standards).  

[WeMissSeaView]

19 hours ago, WeMissSeaView said:

There were two.  Watched  two ambulances load up two males.  Two females also came off of the ship and get in the ambulances.  Looks like it was two different passengers.

This shows the two ambulances as the second crew gets on the Oasis.

[GTO-Girl]

6 hours ago, Joebucks said:

I'll be honest, while I would want the best for the passengers, I would be a bit annoyed if my whole vacation had to change. With 5000+ people on one ship, odds are, it's going to happen.

 

With that said, I could live with the casino not being open. Especially when you had the whole cruise to go.

Just to clarify....so you would be annoyed if someone had a medical emergency that disrupted your vacation???

 

That’s so sad....I hope and pray that never happens to you or your family.