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8 hours ago, Stickman1990 said:


So what do those of us without cute grandkids post to get attention for our posts? 

Maybe this timer will do it?
 

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8 hours ago, ClefsDor said:

I keep forgetting that on Regent there's only one internet connection per cabin and there isn't a way to even pay to get an extra one!! This could lead to some marital discord 😅

 

OMG! Only one internet connection?? We will never sail on Regent!

 

We had only one connection on Oceania and are still happily married..

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8 hours ago, SusieQft said:

Reach Gold by the end of your current booking. 

 

SusieQft, you can be gold at the beginning of your first sailing if you book one of these four cruises:

 

https://dc.bigdogfoto.com/rollcall/rollcall.php?line=regent&fromdays=75

 

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I don't know about the current condition of the Internet on Regent ships, but I do know that I've never had a problem even when everyone one else around me was complaining about it. So I think it has a lot to do with your equipment and how you use it. (No sexual innuendo intended.) I don't own a smartphone, and I always only use a Chromebook (Chrome OS) from which I mostly just use email and my photo site. On average, I take 100 photos and videos per day, and they are uploaded quickly because my site server has a great ftp program.

 

Also note about the one connection issue, that everyone can connect two or more devices, just not at the same time.

 

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And finally, a note about attracting attention to my posts; the moderators asked me not to post photos of my grandchildren anymore. There was an incident the last time I posted photos of two of my grandchildren, both born last year, three days apart. They were too adorable, and the board crashed from people logging in just to see them. You all would be so jelly!

 
Instead, I offer up this image of  PVC Moose and Squirrel posed as American Gothic.
 

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In December, I changed the Moose's sweatshirt to one with Merry Christmoose on it, and then over Hanukkah, I turned his gorgeous rack into a menorah for eight nights.

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1 hour ago, drib said:

SusieQft, you can be gold at the beginning of your first sailing if you book one of these four cruises:

 

https://dc.bigdogfoto.com/rollcall/rollcall.php?line=regent&fromdays=75

Yes, that would be lovely!  LOL  A couple of their current Grand Voyages also qualify, and all the Grand Voyages also could potentially qualify on your second Regent sailing if you already have a few days logged in on a test sail.  Or other back to backs could accomplish the same goal.  I know this is not a practical solution for everyone, but it is one I have considered.  😀

 

I am glad to hear that the "one device" restriction means only one at a time, not absolutely one.  I had been hoping that was the case, to make the internet situation tolerable for our "test sail."

 

 

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18 minutes ago, SusieQft said:

I know this is not a practical solution for everyone, but it is one I have considered.

 

I don't track most back-to-backs - just the world cruises - but if there is a Grand Voyage or some other back-to-back with a web page that you're interested in, I'd be glad to add it for you.

 
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So, above, where it appears that I wrote something about sexual innuendo, that's not what I wrote. What I wrote was "Intellectual Nintendo," but darn you spell-checker!

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8 minutes ago, drib said:

I don't track most back-to-backs - just the world cruises - but if there is a Grand Voyage or some other back-to-back with a web page that you're interested in, I'd be glad to add it for you.

Thank you, Drib!  Regent currently has 7 Grand Voyages listed.  Assuming that we like Regent enough, that is our long term plan, after 2022.  The current offerings that would be of most interest to me if reoffered again in the future are:

 

https://www.rssc.com/cruises/NAV210531E/summary?source=results

and

https://www.rssc.com/cruises/NAV211105C/summary?source=results

 

If you search on Grand Voyage as the destination, it gives you the full list and will eventually show any future ones that Regent might announce.  I am assuming that you would only have access to track current and future price changes, and would need to start with the initial announcement to get the full history, though.  Is that correct?

 

Strange that this discussion is on the Crystal board, as we have veered off into Regent territory.

Karen

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1 hour ago, SusieQft said:

The current offerings that would be of most interest to me

 

Done. I think you know where to look for them.

 

I'm doubtful that the air credit is right for those. Sometimes on domestic air, it will say $1000, but that's only for the Regent Suite or whatever. But I have no experience with these Grand Voyages, so maybe that's right for everyone. If you know what it is for reals, let me know and I'll change it.

 

I got an email this morning about a new offer for $1000 of OBC for some cruises where they need to do some cabin fanny-filling, but the latest of those trips in in March 2021. So not for your trips, and not for mine. But there might be a deal for someone looking on here. OBC isn't as valuable as a discount, but we always have fun spending it. My favorite cruises on Crystal were when they had $1000 "as you wish" OBC, per person, several years ago.

 

See you later, Navigator!

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22 hours ago, Stickman1990 said:

What I really want to know is who is going to get the ONE internet connection you get per cabin on Regent? I know who my money is on - bloggers have priority don’t they?

 

As you can see I am trying to build my profile. Watch this space!

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Thank you!  I think the reason for the $1000 air credit is because the Grand Voyages include domestic first class air.

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22 hours ago, Stickman1990 said:

The older I get the less I worry about the cost - after all if I wanted a cheap cruise I’d book Carnival...

 

Agreed, however, I am still somewhat obsessed/baffled about the price differential between Crystal and Regent - given the innovation happening with Regent. In any case, as you say, only time will tell *.

 

*TWT

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You have to factor in the experience. If you are doing a lot of sea days, you won't have the equivalent enrichment that Crystal offers.  I'll take the aging ships with the smaller cabins. 

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40 minutes ago, ChatKat in Ca. said:

I'll take the aging ships with the smaller cabins. 


Funny - that’s how my wife describes me sometimes 😉

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56 minutes ago, ChatKat in Ca. said:

You have to factor in the experience. If you are doing a lot of sea days, you won't have the equivalent enrichment that Crystal offers.  I'll take the aging ships with the smaller cabins. 

Kathy you are so right.

 

This is what good friends told us.

 

They sailed Regent on a crossing and said it was like a port intensive cruise.

 

So glad there is lots of choice out there so everyone can figure out what they like.

 

For many years many  people have tried different lines so some people trying out Regent is not a new things.

 

Just as some people trying out Crystal particularly since it went inclusive is nothing new.

 

Some will like it.  Some won't.


So  it goes.

 

And while some won't like it that doesn't mean others will feel the same way.  And while some will like it doesn't mean others will feel the same way.

 

Personally I want everyone  to be happy with their  cruising decisions but at this point in my life whether they like it or not will not influence Anne Marie and my decisions as to which cruise line to sail.

 

Just like a book,  a movie, a hotel, a restaurant, there is only one opinion that counts.   

 

Keith

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58 minutes ago, ChatKat in Ca. said:

You have to factor in the experience. If you are doing a lot of sea days, you won't have the equivalent enrichment that Crystal offers.  I'll take the aging ships with the smaller cabins. 

 

Amen!!  There is absolutely nothing wrong with Regent and I would completely and whole-heartedly recommend them to friends looking for a cruise like that, but there is just about NOTHING in the way they package their offering that serves what I value personally...  That's not a knock at all on Regent, I just would rather have more public space than cabin space, more open promenade/aft deck space than cabin space, more enrichment, more activities, to pay for excursions and air a la carte in the rare cases they're needed, and have readily available lower single surcharges.

 

1 hour ago, Fly Fast Cruise Slow said:

 

Agreed, however, I am still somewhat obsessed/baffled about the price differential between Crystal and Regent - given the innovation happening with Regent. In any case, as you say, only time will tell *.

 

*TWT

 

This is just a gut instinct from where I sit, but I've been watching the development with the new ship(s) and watching the pricing strategies that Crystal has been driving the past couple of years, and the hyperactive (compared to their competitors) yield management work recently is kind of interesting.  They seem to be kind of doing two things at once -- feel out where the upper end of what their market will bear (for projections with the next generation product) while tracking how much and where in the cycle people are willing to spend at each price point, while still trying to boost occupancy rates to justify the investment in the ocean segment, especially since it looks like they will need more berths total in order to make them work financially.

 

It kind of leads to whiplash with some of the high advance fares and seasonal bargains, but there also seems to be something kind of methodical to the whole roller coaster when you overlay it with where we're at (AND where we're not) in nailing down the general arrangement for the first ocean newbuild.

 

Vince

 

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2 minutes ago, BWIVince said:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Regent and I would completely and whole-heartedly recommend them to friends looking for a cruise like that, but there is just about NOTHING in the way they package their offering that serves what I value personally...  That's not a knock at all on Regent, I just would rather have more public space than cabin space, more open promenade/aft deck space than cabin space, more enrichment, more activities, to pay for excursions and air a la carte in the rare cases they're needed, and have readily available lower single surcharges


I'm curious - have you actually sailed Regent? If so was it recently and on one of their newer ships? If not then what are you basing your assessment on?

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38 minutes ago, Keith1010 said:

Just like a book,  a movie, a hotel, a restaurant, there is only one opinion that counts.

 

For someone whose opinion, by your own admission, doesn't matter, you sure take up a lot of time and space saying the same thing! 🙂

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25 minutes ago, Stickman1990 said:


I'm curious - have you actually sailed Regent? If so was it recently and on one of their newer ships? If not then what are you basing your assessment on?

 

No, I haven't...  As I mentioned, that wasn't any kind of value judgment based on service or any kind of onboard experience, I firmly believe Regent offers an excellent product.  It's just the value proposition of the way their packaging is built that doesn't serve my needs.  It's just a numbers thing.  Explorer and Splendor are great, they just don't introduce anything that I value (I could care less about things like infinity pools), and I'm deathly afraid of open heights so an exposed jogging track on deck 12 is my worst nightmare.

 

Once the option of a ship with an interior-sided promenade on deck 7 is gone (as one example of many), of course,  I'll have to reevaluate my preferences, but in the meantime they just bring nothing to the party for me personally. 

 

I don't want anyone to think I'm knocking it without trying it -- I'm not knocking it AT ALL.  They're just not selling what I personally need.

 

Vince

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8 minutes ago, drib said:

 

For someone whose opinion, by your own admission, doesn't matter, you sure take up a lot of time and space saying the same thing! 🙂

Thank you David.

 

Yes I do like to reenforce that the only opinion that matters is your own so I do share mine as well.

 

I don't think it is unusual to repeat oneself on CC.  II know others do including........Well I know you know who I am talking about so no names David. 😀

 

For example David I pretty much know from you saying it more than once that sailing Crystal is not in your plans.  You see many repeat themselves.

 

My point is in the end it's great to know what others think but you have to figure it out yourself which is why when I am asked fo for an opinion I might say this works for us or it doesn't work for us but in the end only you can decide.  

 

As I said it is nothing new for people to try other cruise lines.  I base this one on fact and it's not an opinion.

 

As to Regent if I want to learn about Regent I will learn about it on the Regent Board not here.  Same goes for any cruise line including Crystal.

 

Happy New Year.

 

Keith

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8 minutes ago, Keith1010 said:

As to Regent if I want to learn about Regent I will learn about it on the Regent Board not here.  Same goes for any cruise line including Crystal.


That’s not always going to be the case. This thread was set up to specifically discuss both Crystal and Regent and the price comparison of holiday fares - most posters have kept pretty much on that topic

 

I don’t think it’s unusual to find such a comparison thread on the Crystal board - particularly when several members have first hand knowledge of both lines and others have stated their plans to try Regent 
 

Like all threads if one isn’t interested in the topic or doesn’t have anything useful to contribute on the subject then it’s just a case of ignoring it and moving on and leaving it to those who are interested

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22 minutes ago, Keith1010 said:

Well I know you know who I am talking about so no names David.

 

No, I don't. I need the names.

 

But that leads me to another subject. I generally only use member names. (I will use Keith, though, because it's in your member name.) I know you and others like to use real first names because it's friendlier, I suppose, and that's fine. 

 

I use member names because a lot of the readers don't know who the friendly names are. So if iAmaHairyToad posted, but you called him Henry, well, that's very confusing. And also, maybe iAmaHairyToad doesn't want people to know his real name is Henry.

 

Now ... I know my opinion doesn't matter, but I think your opinions would go further if you stated the same ones less often, and in less space. It's not that I don't appreciate all the help you provide here, I'm just saying that it's not as effective as it could be.

 

Happy New Year.

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41 minutes ago, Keith1010 said:

As to Regent if I want to learn about Regent I will learn about it on the Regent Board not here.  Same goes for any cruise line including Crystal.

This position seems rather myopic to me. I believe that much can be learned from comparative judgments. in fact, much well-informed decision making by open minded people is made by comparing  one possibility with another. Of course, if one has already made up one’s mind and is not open to other possibilities, comparisons are probably moot.

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1 hour ago, BWIVince said:

 

 

 

 

This is just a gut instinct from where I sit, but I've been watching the development with the new ship(s) and watching the pricing strategies that Crystal has been driving the past couple of years, and the hyperactive (compared to their competitors) yield management work recently is kind of interesting. 

 

Vince

 

 

Vince,

 

If you're so inclined, could you expand on your "hyperactive yield management" point?  I find these nuts and bolts of the business discussions fascinating, and you're one of the few contributors who can do so with actual cruise biz insight  

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12 minutes ago, Observer said:

This position seems rather myopic to me. I believe that much can be learned from comparative judgments. in fact, much well-informed decision making by open minded people is made by comparing  one possibility with another. Of course, if one has already made up one’s mind and is not open to other possibilities, comparisons are probably moot.

Honestly I don't.

When I  wanted to learn about Seabourn I read what is posted there.  I also read reviews on the Review site. Same for Silversea, Regents, Celebrity etc.

 

I don't need comparisons because that is when we get into lots of subjectives and.....a big and..........I want current....Often the comparisons are not current.

 

Anyway, this is my view. 

 

I have never cared for comparisons because it gets subjective.

 

If I want a comparison I can create my own from reading what people say on the respective cruise line board for the line I am interested in.  I can go to the actual web site for the line and I can go to my go to book which is the Ocean Cruising Book by Douglas Ward.

 

I do have a very open mind by the way which is why I don't go for the comparisons that people create.

 

I do go by the 80/20 rule which served me very well in business.

 

If I haven't sailed a line and 80% of the people say something is good or not good I take that as fact until I experience it myself.

 

It worked well in business and it worked well as we selected cruises to sail, places to see, hotels to stay at and on and on and on and these days there are many fact based sources.

 

On a related note this is where I get a laugh from questions


Question.  What is the specialty restaurant fee.  Answer: It is fact based.  What happens next we get several opinions on whether or not there should be a fee but that was not the question.

 

Now back to comparisons.  I will speak with people (speak is the key) who I know  (know is key) and I respect (respect is key) if they have sailed multiple lines and will ask some fact based questions and even ask for an opinion or two but if they haven't sailed the line in a few years let's face it with all the change it can be outdated and a bid and........Sailing a line one time is not sufficient to me for a comparison.  Why?  Because every cruise is different.

 

If we agree to disagree that's fine.

 

But for me if I want to learn about Regent I know where to go.

 

Keith

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50 minutes ago, drib said:

 

No, I don't. I need the names.

 

But that leads me to another subject. I generally only use member names. (I will use Keith, though, because it's in your member name.) I know you and others like to use real first names because it's friendlier, I suppose, and that's fine. 

 

I use member names because a lot of the readers don't know who the friendly names are. So if iAmaHairyToad posted, but you called him Henry, well, that's very confusing. And also, maybe iAmaHairyToad doesn't want people to know his real name is Henry.

 

Now ... I know my opinion doesn't matter, but I think your opinions would go further if you stated the same ones less often, and in less space. It's not that I don't appreciate all the help you provide here, I'm just saying that it's not as effective as it could be.

 

Happy New Year.

Drib appreciate your opinion.

 

However as someone said a week ago on a similar issue unless you  are the moderator we can say want we want and as often as we want Drib as long as it conforms to Cruise Critic.

 

On a related note something I learned in my career and as part of my career including studying Lincoln On Leadership is keep the message simple and repeat it often until people get tired of hearing it.  It is at that point that they actually get it.  Unless you do it, it gets lost.    

 

Happy New Year Drib and yes I do find  that  real names make it more personal and friendlier  However I will be sure to call you Drib from now on.

 

Keith1010

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Keith1010 said:

I learned in my career and as part of my career including studying Lincoln On Leadership is keep the message simple and repeat it often until people get tired of hearing it. 

 

Or, they learn to tune it out.

 

And just look at how it turned out for Lincoln!

 

Okay, then, but please note that "drib" starts with a lowercase letter.

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