Spif Barwunkel Posted January 31, 2020 #1 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just off Celebrity Reflection after a lovely 11 day ABC's, Cartagena, Grand Cayman itinerary. Cartagena, Columbia was the only disappointment. We booked a highlights tour through "Dora The Explorer", a well known local tour operator. After pick-up at the port, we proceeded to town where several stops were to be made and highlights visited. From the first step off the bus on to Cartagena city ground, until the last step back on to the bus and return to port - a little over four hours - the onslaught was constant and relentless. Street peddlers take it to a higher level here and will pursue tourists to the point of frustration and anger. What's worse is, our Dora tour guide did nothing to ease the unpleasantness. Even during lecture stops our group was infiltrated by persistent peddlers who made it impossible to hear and understand anything that was said. "Dora The Explorer" via JC, our tour guide and Jack, our driver enlightened us about nothing in Cartagena. Rather, it seemed that our group was just taken on an unwanted shopping spree amongst thousands of family and friends wanting to get in to our pocketbooks. If you must leave the ship in Cartagena, do not do it with "Dora The Explorer." The $70.00pp tour cost is not worth the HASSLE!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 31, 2020 #2 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Sorry to hear that. Thanks for the heads up.( hope you also post on the ports board) We just booked a cruise that includes Cartagena...overnight. We only take Celebrity excursions but will keep this info in mind when making our choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted January 31, 2020 #3 Share Posted January 31, 2020 41 minutes ago, Spif Barwunkel said: Just off Celebrity Reflection after a lovely 11 day ABC's, Cartagena, Grand Cayman itinerary. Cartagena, Columbia was the only disappointment. We booked a highlights tour through "Dora The Explorer", a well known local tour operator. After pick-up at the port, we proceeded to town where several stops were to be made and highlights visited. From the first step off the bus on to Cartagena city ground, until the last step back on to the bus and return to port - a little over four hours - the onslaught was constant and relentless. Street peddlers take it to a higher level here and will pursue tourists to the point of frustration and anger. What's worse is, our Dora tour guide did nothing to ease the unpleasantness. Even during lecture stops our group was infiltrated by persistent peddlers who made it impossible to hear and understand anything that was said. "Dora The Explorer" via JC, our tour guide and Jack, our driver enlightened us about nothing in Cartagena. Rather, it seemed that our group was just taken on an unwanted shopping spree amongst thousands of family and friends wanting to get in to our pocketbooks. If you must leave the ship in Cartagena, do not do it with "Dora The Explorer." The $70.00pp tour cost is not worth the HASSLE!! We used Dora in 2011 when we were in Cartagena and our tour was great. We had no shopping on our tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising princess 1964 Posted January 31, 2020 #4 Share Posted January 31, 2020 We had the total opposite experience We booked with Dora last February What a great tour and lady Dora was our guide and she was fantastic! Yes the vendors are aggressive but be aggressive back My husband said stop and they did I highly recommend this tour We saw all the highlights One of our best tours yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerdog Posted January 31, 2020 #5 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I've been on a private tour with Dora in Cartagena as well. Excellent tour and very informative. I'm sorry to hear you had a poor experience. ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafig Posted January 31, 2020 #6 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Yes, we also went with Dora a few years ago. She did fend off the street peddlers pretty well, but there are so many of them some still snuck through.😱 Our only shopping stop was at Lee Miles … Mr. Emerald, but since I wanted to purchase an emerald cross I enjoyed the stop. My only complaint was it was so hot and I wished she had supplied us with some water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerunner Posted January 31, 2020 #7 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Sorry that you did not have a good tour, I used her in November 2019 and had a great experience, it was a great tour and highly recommend it. Yes some of the locals where aggressive but just said a polite no and they moved on. I got a lot of information out of the tour and it was a lot of fun and informative. We had a small tour, about 8 of us and it was very personable. I saw the ship tours and there were like 25 or more on them for same places. The only thing about the tour that was hard was how hot it was but that is not her control. Edited January 31, 2020 by bikerunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerunner Posted January 31, 2020 #8 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mafig said: Yes, we also went with Dora a few years ago. She did fend off the street peddlers pretty well, but there are so many of them some still snuck through.😱 Our only shopping stop was at Lee Miles … Mr. Emerald, but since I wanted to purchase an emerald cross I enjoyed the stop. My only complaint was it was so hot and I wished she had supplied us with some water. Agree about the water, but i had read reviews before and made sure each of us on the tour had 4 or so waters with us and drank 1 every hour. Edited January 31, 2020 by bikerunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spif Barwunkel Posted January 31, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted January 31, 2020 54 minutes ago, hcat said: Sorry to hear that. Thanks for the heads up.( hope you also post on the ports board) We just booked a cruise that includes Cartagena...overnight. We only take Celebrity excursions but will keep this info in mind when making our choices. I did not have the opportunity to speak to other passengers who might have taken a Celebrity tour. Perhaps the "X" dissuades peddlers from being bothersome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallnthensome Posted January 31, 2020 #10 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Spif Barwunkel said: I did not have the opportunity to speak to other passengers who might have taken a Celebrity tour. Perhaps the "X" dissuades peddlers from being bothersome. 99.9 % of Dora’s reviews on cruise critic and Trip Advisor are the complete opposite of yours ......Hmmmmm.......... I had her on NCL so Celebrity has nothing to do with it . Edited January 31, 2020 by tallnthensome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted January 31, 2020 #11 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Spif Barwunkel said: I did not have the opportunity to speak to other passengers who might have taken a Celebrity tour. Perhaps the "X" dissuades peddlers from being bothersome. There is nothing X or any tour operator can do to dissuade the peddlers. I went with Dora a couple of months ago and the tour was great. The peddlers were persistent like they have been in many other third world countries, and she did her best to shoo them off. Many third world I have visited countries have similar desperate peddlers unless the local government has reined them in. There were annoying but since I have encountered this before I was able to tune the peddlers out and keep it in perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heidikay Posted January 31, 2020 #12 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Thank you Spif for the review. I wonder if the street peddlers are getting worse? I booked a tour in Cartagena and my tour guide said he had booked a police officer to accompany us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted February 1, 2020 #13 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Since your comments are on a non-Celebrity tour, you should post on the appropriate ports of call board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted February 1, 2020 #14 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Sorry to hear that! I visited Cartagena 20 years ago and booked a Celebrity tour. The peddlers and those begging were unsettling. It was intense ... they grabbed onto you and when you finally broke free, there was another one to take his/her place. I was concerned about returning the year before last. I was wrong .... this place was simply awesome this second time around. I booked a free walking tour of the Walled City online, brushed up on my Spanish to bargain for a taxi out there. Bargaining wasn't required on the way back and we saw not one peddler or anybody begging or hanging all over us this time around. I wonder if it's gotten worse again since the problems that Venezuela is having. I've heard that Columbia has taken in a lot of their refugees. So sad if that's the case. I saw that as a place that really turned itself around, enough so that I was comfortable to have a very safe and wonderful tour all that we booked all on our own. Sorry to hear you missed out on that experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted February 1, 2020 #15 Share Posted February 1, 2020 We used Dora in 2016 and thought it was a very good tour. We had very few problems of any kind. There were vendors at various locations, but they were not pushy at all. MikeSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnie mommie Posted February 1, 2020 #16 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I was on the Reflection January 20 sailing which included Cartagena and booked with "Dora" and had a fantastic tour. Our guide Wil was great. I would reccomend highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccermom123 Posted February 2, 2020 #17 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I also was on the Dora tour with JC and driver Jack on the January 20th Reflection tour. I agree with everything the original poster mentioned. Our guide JC did nothing to shoo away the relentless peddlers. There was times We couldn’t hear his description of the sites for the constant requests to purchase items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted February 3, 2020 #18 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 8:42 PM, soccermom123 said: I also was on the Dora tour with JC and driver Jack on the January 20th Reflection tour. I agree with everything the original poster mentioned. Our guide JC did nothing to shoo away the relentless peddlers. There was times We couldn’t hear his description of the sites for the constant requests to purchase items. What would you have had him do, on a public street no less? Shoot them? We toured with Dora several years ago, and it was an excellent tour. Yes, Cartagena is a pretty tough place in terms of peddlers. Dora did her best to "shoo" them off, but again, what can any one person do? They still kept coming up to us. We would say "No, gracias" in a firm voice. It's another culture. People are trying to get by. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DENIE Posted February 4, 2020 #19 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Hmm....we were on a Dora tour in 2014 (Mercedes was our guide). It was excellent. In fact, we are going back in November 2020 and have asked for her again (she is still there). We had no problems with peddlers, and she managed to get us to the best places before the other cruise ship passengers arrived (like La Popa). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lr657 Posted March 8, 2020 #20 Share Posted March 8, 2020 We were on a tour with Dora yesterday, and were lucky enough to have Dora as our guide. We very much enjoyed our tour as did everyone else we toured with. Dora was very informative and we were able to visit several highlights of the area including the fort, the walled city, and 2 cathedrals. We also had some free time to shop and purchase snacks or drinks if we wanted. In addition, there was ice cold water provided on the van. I agree that the peddlers were everywhere, but I don't think that any other tour provider could have kept them away either. A simple "no" kept them from continuing to hassle us. I feel that we had an excellent tour, and wouldn't hesitate to tour with Dora again or recommend her to anyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalgirl Posted September 28, 2021 #21 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Searching for any new Colombia updates I saw this email and felt I had to respond even though the first poster was in 2020. We toured with a Dora guide several years ago and she was the first excursion I booked for our return to Colombia. With all the cruises canceled and now coming back, I think some of the desperation of the people may ease - we are all trying to catch up after the shutdown losses. It is not the guide's job to control those asking for money or trying to sell something. Being polite to those only trying to make a living goes a long way. We have traveled all over the world and panhandling has been good or bad - but giving a smile and nodding your head doesn't cost you anything. We travel in January and I will return with a new update on "Dora the Explorer" and our experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom3 Posted October 18, 2021 #22 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 1/31/2020 at 6:24 PM, heidikay said: Thank you Spif for the review. I wonder if the street peddlers are getting worse? I booked a tour in Cartagena and my tour guide said he had booked a police officer to accompany us. Which tour guide hires a police officer? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondo Posted October 31, 2021 #23 Share Posted October 31, 2021 We did a tour with Dora on our Panama Canal cruise at the beginning of October. We were her first cruise tour and she was excited and eager to share with us the history about her city and country. Yes, there were pushy vendors. Dora did her best to keep us together and move fast out of their path. She even had an extra worker on the tour that helped keep an eye on our group to make sure we were all where we were supposed to be. She often brought up the rear to keep the group between her and Dora. There is only so much they can do to keep the vendors away. At one point Dara told a group of young men following us and singing (wanting tips I’m sure) that this was her group and she was trying to make a living, too. They left us alone and went elsewhere. Dora was full of information and very personable! So much better than a bus tour! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froufie Posted November 8, 2023 #24 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I have done a couple of tours with Dora and her group and have nothing but good comments - I would highly recommend her to anyone visiting Cartagena! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyandGus Posted November 12, 2023 #25 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I did this tour today- Dora was wonderful, and so passionate about her city. She had a helper and a driver, so we felt very safe. The vendors were everywhere, but firm “no thanks” seemed to work. Two people in the group had scooters, and Dora was able to accommodate them, both in terms of physical space on the little bus, and making sure that they could drive with the rest us. I would recommend Dora, and plan to use her again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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