Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

[fragilek]

here is the photo of the ambulances that arrived ship side 5 hrs ago.  I haven't heard anything else since this was posted

[kathy49]

1 minute ago, fragilek said:

here is the photo of the ambulances that arrived ship side 5 hrs ago.  I haven't heard anything else since this was posted

It is difficult to know ...it is about 3am there now so that could be from yesterday morning? Or later in the day? Is it the 66 that were taken off recently? Communication right now is tough as their internet is really bad.

[Doris&Nereus]

17 hours ago, npcl said:

That's funny in April 2019 the total number of cases did not even get to the level requiring report to the CDC (it is not in the CDC list of cruise ship outbreaks) which is 3% or more of passengers. Since the Pearl is around a 2400 capacity ship the reporting limit would have been 72 passengers.  Quite a bit less than the 1,000 you are stating.  a bit of hyperbole it seems.

A group of my friends were on the Pearl TA in April.  Several in that group were sick but didn't report bk they had brought meds from home. They also didn't want to be confined to the cabin. They told me that indeed many more were sick than were reported. They told me that they thought yes over 1000 were sick. And true ,they said that the ship was a ghost town. BTW we almost booked that trip. 

[NorthwestCruiser]

Does anybody know how they are dealing with towels and bedding (which are biohazards at this point)?   Do they just drop off new ones and you remake the cabin yourself, putting the used items in a triple sealed bag?    

 

From the CDC:

 

Avoid sharing personal household items

You should not share dishes, drinking glasses, cups, eating utensils, towels, or bedding with other people in your home. After using these items, they should be washed thoroughly with soap and water.

 

How to avoid the coronavirus

 

 

[bluesea321]

1 minute ago, kathy49 said:

It is difficult to know ...it is about 3am there now so that could be from yesterday morning? Or later in the day? Is it the 66 that were taken off recently? Communication right now is tough as their internet is really bad.

 

As posted earlier there have been no announcements on ship regarding new cases since two days ago. If there have been no new cases it would seem that the captain and Princess would so announce. The last news from Princess was on Feb 9. The lack of new announcements leaves me concerned.

[fragilek]

Looks like meals have may be changed to outsource delivery

lunch - tues

dinner tues

[posh crew]

I find it really strange that we are not getting any information about this cruise ship now.  There is no mention on any News sites that I can find in the UK.  I know there are other news stories but it has gone very very quiet.  Are the authorities not wanting the general public to know what is going on and is  that why the Internet is poor on the ship right now?

[ed01106]

Should have been doing outsourced delivery since day one.  One infected crew member in the kitchen could infect the entire ship.  

[bluesea321]

7 minutes ago, posh crew said:

I find it really strange that we are not getting any information about this cruise ship now.  There is no mention on any News sites that I can find in the UK.  I know there are other news stories but it has gone very very quiet.  Are the authorities not wanting the general public to know what is going on and is  that why the Internet is poor on the ship right now?

 

I find it odd also. Princess was making daily announcements on their webpage:

https://www.princess.com/news/notices_and_advisories/notices/diamond-princess-update.html

 

But nothing has been posted or announced on ship since Feb 9. Again, if there are no new cases it would seem that Princess would disclose that information, it would be good news. The lack of new disclosures makes me concerned.

 

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by bluesea321

[ceilidh1]

1 minute ago, fragilek said:

thanks for that - I am always a bit suspicious when not photographer named - I will delete as not want to add to stress of those on board.

Some media seem to think all cruise ships are the same. I was watching one report about Diamond that showed footage of NCL Bliss!

[perditax]

It's also 3:47 a.m. local time, so that's probably adding to the quiet. 

[voljeep]

53 minutes ago, perditax said:

 

There was that one couple in California who were 'suddenly much more ill' over a week ago, but I never heard anything about them again. 

 

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/481377-california-husband-and-wife-infected-with

 

It's hard to find info about the U.S. patients so far, not like when we had ebola patients a few years ago. Still, I suppose it's better to protect their identities for now.

correct - potential HIPPA violations ...

[perditax]

4 minutes ago, voljeep said:

correct - potential HIPPA violations ...

 

I wasn't suggesting that healthcare providers should share their records, no. 

[brisalta]

1 hour ago, bonsai3s said:

Has there been any word from the Captain of Diamond Princess?

On most cruises, the Captain is introduced as the "Master of the Vessel"...does he have any say on what is being done on "his" ship?

 

 

The master would be very aware of the rules of quarantine and the need for it. It would be part of his training.

[brisalta]

2 hours ago, frugaltravel said:

Obviously you have not lived overseas to experience it firsthand. I have.

 

I have lived overseas and found the public health care very good.

In fact in the USA I have been treated for the same condition at a private hospital and a public hospital.

The care was superior in the public hospital.

The one thing that the private hospitals specialize in is the walletectomy.

[DeltaBreeze]

I don't think anyone on the ship is taking photos of what's going on in the port right now. The Diamond Princess bow cam shows that the ship is at sea.

https://www.princess.com/bridgecams/

[perditax]

4 minutes ago, DeltaBreeze said:

I don't think anyone on the ship is taking photos of what's going on in the port right now. The Diamond Princess bow cam shows that the ship is at sea.

https://www.princess.com/bridgecams/

 

Haven't they gone out before to gather fresh water for desalination?

[Outerdog]

5 minutes ago, DeltaBreeze said:

I don't think anyone on the ship is taking photos of what's going on in the port right now. The Diamond Princess bow cam shows that the ship is at sea.

https://www.princess.com/bridgecams/

 

The ship is at sea to facilitate normal ship's operations, specifically water production (desalination) and ballast operations.

 

The photos were taken earlier.

 

[rabidstoat]

2 hours ago, NorthwestCruiser said:

Does anybody know how they are dealing with towels and bedding (which are biohazards at this point)?   Do they just drop off new ones and you remake the cabin yourself, putting the used items in a triple sealed bag?    

 

David Abel talked in one of his videos a day or two ago about how they'd gotten new bedding. I don't recall him mentioning any details but from the way he talked about it in passing, it sounded like they dropped it off and the passengers change out the sheets themselves. Not sure what they do with the dirty ones, I don't think he mentioned that.

[rabidstoat]

9 hours ago, DanJ said:

Dumb question, but not sure if it's been said in all these 41 pages. Do they get Captain Circle credit for all these days at least?

 

Ha, finally a proper Cruise Critic question! 🙂

 

I haven't seen it mentioned. Does Princess have a policy for what happened when cruises are extended for other reasons, like if there's a bad storm and engine problems or whatever, and the ship is out an extra day or two before returning to port? I assume it's come up at some point before but I don't know.

[kathy49]

Well 6:42 am in Japan....I hope David comes on with some sort of update...he usually does in the morning. Clearly very little communication is coming from the ship which is concerning. Hopefully people will post if they hear any updates.

[kathy49]

3 minutes ago, ed01106 said:

Princess’s whole approach makes zero sense.

 

1. Food should not be prepared on board.

 

2. Any burden that can be shifted off ship should.  Rather than launder sheets and towels buy new ones and pile up the soiled ones in the casino or something.  

The food prep thing is very concerning ...I have to think that many passengers on board are questioning this and wonder what kind of answers they are getting. I noted clean towels in video and they must be changing those out as well as the sheets. When David shows the tray from meals I am not sure how much the food is covered outside of the entree.  So much is really unknown.

 

[EDVM96]

 

Did you realize that the Diamond bridge cam has been turned to the left by someone?
It was always straight forward, now it looks to the port side of the ship.

I bet it's because visitors shall not see all the ambulances parked at the pier...

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by EDVM96

[bluesea321]

1 minute ago, ed01106 said:

Princess’s whole approach makes zero sense.

 

1. Food should not be prepared on board.

 

2. Any burden that can be shifted off ship should.  Rather than launder sheets and towels buy new ones and pile up the soiled ones in the casino or something.  

 

Right on, Ed. The Washington Post summary is one of several articles describing the dismal conditions of the crew and Princess reaction has not been in their best interest.

[bluesea321]

3 minutes ago, EDVM96 said:

Did you realize that the Diamond bridge cam hast been turned to the left by someone?
It was always straight forward, now it looks to the port side of the ship.

I bet it's because visitors shall not see all the ambulances parked at the pier...

 

Did not realize that, thanks for posting.

Another CC member posted that those allowed outside for their brief cabin fever escape walk on the promenade deck on the side away from the pier. I wonder why!