Biker19 Posted February 23, 2020 #26 Share Posted February 23, 2020 6 hours ago, twangster said: Ovation still has a CL as of this month. D+ access no problem. I bet that will change in a little over a month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kernow Posted February 23, 2020 #27 Share Posted February 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Confused. Is that because it has an odd Chinese designation I think it was taken away when it went to China and not reinstated for the Singapore sailings (which we were supposed to have been on). It may be put back, depends where it ends up I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted February 23, 2020 #28 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Biker19 said: I bet that will change in a little over a month. Absolutely. Transpacifics are known for high D+ numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biomedbob Posted February 23, 2020 #29 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I've seen as many as a dozen P's on the Grandeur! Thankfully they seem to hang out together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 23, 2020 #30 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, twangster said: Absolutely. Transpacifics are known for high D+ numbers. Not just the TP, but sailings afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 23, 2020 #31 Share Posted February 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, Biker19 said: Not just the TP, but sailings afterwards. Really, all of them or just the first one🤔 I'd often read that Alaska sailings have low C&A attendance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 23, 2020 #32 Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I'd often read that Alaska sailings have low C&A attendance D+ getting kicked out of the CL was not really about high numbers of D+ on any particular sailing - pretty sure it was a temporary measure before they reclassify the CLs as SLs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwcruzer Posted February 23, 2020 #33 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Are D+ usually allowed in the CL on the Grandeur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 23, 2020 #34 Share Posted February 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, gwcruzer said: Are D+ usually allowed in the CL on the Grandeur? @Merion_Mom can confirm this one - I think folks have been getting the welcome letters with an answer of no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted February 23, 2020 #35 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, biomedbob said: I've seen as many as a dozen P's on the Grandeur! Thankfully they seem to hang out together. Swarm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted February 23, 2020 #36 Share Posted February 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Biker19 said: D+ getting kicked out of the CL was not really about high numbers of D+ on any particular sailing - pretty sure it was a temporary measure before they reclassify the CLs as SLs. The concierge on Ovation claims she got no directive from above to restrict access. She does it when there are more than 80-90 D+. At that point the CL becomes too busy. She solely does it based on numbers. Not sure why she would make that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted February 23, 2020 #37 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, biomedbob said: I've seen as many as a dozen P's on the Grandeur! Thankfully they seem to hang out together. Perhaps, but when we sailed this past July (to new England and Canada) there were just 8 of us. I didn’t know it was a requirement or expectation for Pinnacle members to hang out together. And what does “thankfully“ mean? m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILCTCRUISER Posted February 23, 2020 #38 Share Posted February 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, twangster said: The concierge on Ovation claims she got no directive from above to restrict access. She does it when there are more than 80-90 D+. At that point the CL becomes too busy. She solely does it based on numbers. Not sure why she would make that up. OK, but 80-90 D+? I can't recall the last time I was on a cruise with that few D+. Usually when there's 150-200 you start to wonder where all the D+ are. 80-90? Is the Ovation CL ever open to D+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted February 23, 2020 #39 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ILCTCRUISER said: OK, but 80-90 D+? I can't recall the last time I was on a cruise with that few D+. Usually when there's 150-200 you start to wonder where all the D+ are. 80-90? Is the Ovation CL ever open to D+? CL allowed D+ in February. I talked to the concierge about this specifically. She wasn't aware of the controversy. 67 D+ on Ovation on Feb. 2 and that's higher than normal, many Americans on this sailing. This is a North American problem. Too many D+. In Australia the CAS numbers are lower. In Europe the CAS numbers are lower. In Asia the CAS number are lower. Anthem struggles because there are a lot of loyal locals who do Anthem over and over again. It's the only game in town. Edited February 23, 2020 by twangster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted February 23, 2020 #40 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, twangster said: The concierge on Ovation claims she got no directive from above to restrict access. She does it when there are more than 80-90 D+. At that point the CL becomes too busy. She solely does it based on numbers. Not sure why she would make that up. My guess is that the memo went to the HD and that HD has chosen to ignore it for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 23, 2020 #41 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, twangster said: The concierge on Ovation claims she got no directive from above to restrict access. She does it when there are more than 80-90 D+. At that point the CL becomes too busy. She solely does it based on numbers. Not sure why she would make that up. But that doesn't support a good conspiracy theory😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted February 23, 2020 #42 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: My guess is that the memo went to the HD and that HD has chosen to ignore it for the time being. If CAS was globally making a change to the CL I doubt they wouldn't copy the concierges on the email thread. There's only a handful of CL left. Regardless, it's the same effect. D+ have access to CL on Ovation this month. The CL is empowered to draw the line and she draws the line at 80-90 in her words. That's when she restricts, or informs the HD she will be restricting D+ or whatever the protocol is. I've been on Ovation twice and been blocked from the CL when she was the concierge. That came up in my conversation with her too. 2 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: But that doesn't support a good conspiracy theory😉 Bingo. CC doesn't like logic and reasoning. Foil hats and black helicopters rule. Edited February 23, 2020 by twangster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivesLikeMario Posted February 24, 2020 #43 Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Really, all of them or just the first one🤔 I'd often read that Alaska sailings have low C&A attendance That is very true. AK attracts more newbies than most other itineraries for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsacoker Posted February 24, 2020 #44 Share Posted February 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: My guess is that the memo went to the HD and that HD has chosen to ignore it for the time being. So seems Royal has a deep state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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