Grand Princess Coronavirus Discussion (retitled after merger of several topics)

[flyguyjake]

6 minutes ago, caribill said:

passengers to practice social distancing

 

There isn't enough seating in the main dining rooms to do this. What about the theaters, the art auctions, the fire sales, the pool and every bar on the entire ship. There's just not enough room.

[bluesea321]

2 minutes ago, flyguyjake said:

There isn't enough seating in the main dining rooms to do this. What about the theaters, the art auctions, the fire sales, the pool and every bar on the entire ship. There's just not enough room.

 

After all the cancellations there will be plenty of room to practice "Social Distancing", the new cruise phrase. 

[caribill]

10 minutes ago, resistk said:

This means that unless there is 100% testing on board, a lot of potentially sick people are going to disembark without knowing it:

 

 

There is no way to properly take samples and run the tests on board on 3000+ passengers on a ship before disembarkation. (In the last two months, not even close to 3000 people have been tested in the USA.)

 

Because of possible false positives and false negatives, two samples and tests would be required for each passenger.  For a one week cruise the testing should probably start about three weeks before the end of the cruise.

[Justalone]

4 hours ago, MsCynthia said:

 

The oil tanker dock in Richmond is another possibility.

 

How about off Pt. Richmond?  Passengers and crew could be off loaded from the ship to the Pt. Richmond Amtrak station and transported in specially equipped  train cars to Travis AFB quarantine facility. Not too far a ride.

Or the Grand could be anchored at the Reserve Mothball Fleet, Suisun Bay and passengers and crew bussed to Travis AFB quarantine facility.  Or have the Mothball Fleet ships converted to quarantine facility.

Edited March 8, 2020 by Justalone

[aandjw]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/07/grand-princess-to-dock-at-port-of-oakland-official-says/amp/

[caribill]

3 minutes ago, aandjw said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/07/grand-princess-to-dock-at-port-of-oakland-official-says/amp/

 

My favorite part:

"The federal government also is setting up a command center at the Marriott Convention Center and flying in extra U.S. Marshals to help with the operation, Reid said. Passengers and crew would then board shuttle busses and be taken to an unknown destination. Their destination would not be the Marriott, Reid emphasized."

[WIDisCruiser]

Oakland it is. Disembarkation to take several days. CA residents taken somewhere in state, others sent to locations around the country. 

[OceanPatter]

Thank you, outerdog and sednabokos and others, for your screenshots/tracking of the Grand’s whereabouts. Great near real-time info.

Edited March 8, 2020 by OceanPatter

[Buddy604]

6 hours ago, flyguyjake said:

Dr. Grant said a group of passengers got off the Grand Princess in Hawaii and did not continue with the cruise.

Sounds like HI is about to report many more cases of CoronaVirus soon.

Wouldn’t that be a PVSA violation?

[brisalta]

https://www.kron4.com/news/grand-princess-cruise-ship-will-dock-at-port-of-oakland/

 

[marykay8]

Just saw that. Probably going to take them to Travis AFB, 

[NorthwestCruiser]

That "unknown destination" bit is ominous.   

[flyguyjake]

Texas Congressman Joaquin Castro said once in Oakland, some passengers will be quarantined at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, TX

[brisalta]

4 minutes ago, NorthwestCruiser said:

That "unknown destination" bit is ominous.   

 

I expect some of the wacko web sites to make much ado about nothing in regards to that.

[brisalta]

Just announced that arrival in port of Oakland will be Monday. instead of Sunday.

Edited March 8, 2020 by brisalta

[Paulchili]

23 minutes ago, Buddy604 said:

Wouldn’t that be a PVSA violation?

It would and if disembarking of one's own will as opposed to being evacuated, it would cost about $800/pp

[snowblower]

The original cruise terminal where the GP departed is circled on the left.  The Outer Harbor in the Port of Oakland is marked by an "X" for those curious where the ship will be docking.

 

 

Edited March 8, 2020 by snowblower
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[marykay8]

Won't this  be the first time a Grand class cruise ship went under the Bay Bridge ? 

[brisalta]

1 minute ago, marykay8 said:

Won't this  be the first time a Grand class cruise ship went under the Bay Bridge ? 

 

Possibly. They would go under the Western span and then head east.

[giustot]

I'm hearing the docking will be Sunday (today) in Oakland, not Monday. And the passengers were told disembarkation could take several days. I'm sure we'll get more information from the passengers on the ship.

Edited March 8, 2020 by giustot

[brisalta]

2 minutes ago, giustot said:

I'm hearing the docking will be Sunday (today) in Oakland, not Monday. And the passengers were told disembarkation could take several days. I'm sure we'll get more information from the passengers on nthe ship.

 

KRON4 news said at 10:37 PM the plan was changed to Monday for docking.

I suspect some preparation work needs to be done.

Might be that the tides are not favorable. I do not have a current tide table at hand to look at.

Edited March 8, 2020 by brisalta

[marykay8]

The drivers on the Eastern span will be right up close and personal as the Grand arrives to Outer Harbor....appears to be adjacent to the toll booths.

 

[brisalta]

7 minutes ago, snowblower said:

The original cruise terminal where the GP departed is circled on the left.  The Outer Harbor in the Port of Oakland is marked by an "X" for those curious where the ship will be docking.

 

 

 

Where the X is where transport ships were loaded and departed for Vietnam all those years ago.

[caribill]

6 hours ago, flyguyjake said:

Dr. Grant said a group of passengers got off the Grand Princess in Hawaii and did not continue with the cruise.

Sounds like HI is about to report many more cases of CoronaVirus soon.

 

What happened is that a reporter asked Princess execs that he had heard passengers had disembarked and stayed in Hawaii. The Doctor basically did not have actual knowledge if any passengers did or did not disembark there and said he would have to get back to the reporter later.

 

Of course even if no passengers stayed in Hawaii, many did get off the ship in each port and toured, thus possibly exposing residents to the virus.

[brisalta]

5 minutes ago, marykay8 said:

The drivers on the Eastern span will be right up close and personal as the Grand arrives to Outer Harbor....appears to be adjacent to the toll booths.

 

 

You are correct.