Why Only Princess.....?

[WoodstockGirl]

 

Why are only Princess cruises being caught in the "you can't dock here" situation? First the Diamond, now the Grand?  Not Celebrity, not HAL, not RC... etc.

 

Are there other ships in the same situation, but our news media aren't telling us?

Or is it Princess's itineraries being different in some way?

Or should my question be, "why are the Princess pax being identified as having C-virus and not the other cruise line pax"?  I know about the Westerdarm, and maybe another one(?) in Feb, but now Princess is in this situation again. 

What is happening with Princess that is different....? 

Or is it the media not reporting any others, only Princess? 

 

Just curious....

 

Edited March 6, 2020 by WoodstockGirl

[chipmaster]

Like asking why only China, or originally only in Washington, it isn't but we just don't know yet.

[joepeka]

HAL Westerdam was in that same situation in Asia at the same time as Diamond.

[Jnsplace1]

MSC has some issues as well.   Their media is more EU based.

[Kenswing]

Luck of the draw.  Sooner or later it will affect other lines.. 

 

Did you already forget the Westerdam?

Edited March 6, 2020 by Kenswing

[jp2746]

I think it has more to do with the age of passengers on Princess.  It caters more to the mature crowd that would go to the infirmary if they were sick.  Younger people may just have a runny nose and fever but would go on about their day. I know up until now, I would never go to the infirmary if I were sick.  I would just suck it up since I paid so much for the cruise.  I'm sure that it is more spread out over the US than anyone thinks.  That's just my guess.

[Doug R.]

Luck of the draw (bad luck in this case). There is a Seabourn ship that has been turned away from two ports.

[Stateroom_Sailor]

Larger fleet than HAL and Celebrity, plus bad luck.

[Louby-Lou]

On its current cruise, Celebrity Constellation is due to dock in Sri Lanka but no passengers will be allowed off. 

Edited March 6, 2020 by Louby-Lou

[TheRabbit]

Just a little bit of math can get you there.

The odds of of two people having the same birthday in a group of over 23 is better than 50%.

Not sure of the number of cruise ships out there, but if it is 365, Princess has 17 out there now. Chances of a second ship, not as low as you would think.

Doing this off the top of my head and memory of the numbers not so good, sorry for errors.

[AF-1]

There was a ship denied docking in Aruba last week.

[Buddy604]

I would assume it’s just chance, but there could be other small contributing factors.

 

Much larger ships than HAL, more older passengers than RCL, etc.

[mrmarklin]

Princess tends to have large numbers of Americans on board, hence the coverage by US based media. 

 

This is happening all over the world.

[gatour]

Also keep in mind that during this time of the year, Princess, HAL, NCL currently have more ships deployed in more diverse itineraries than lines like Carnival, Royal Caribbean.

[WoodstockGirl]

2 hours ago, Kenswing said:

Luck of the draw.  Sooner or later it will affect other lines.. 

 

Did you already forget the Westerdam?

 

I mentioned Westerdam in my original post.

[WoodstockGirl]

 

So... it sounds like it is the media's focus.

I wonder if the other ships some of you mention here are also hunkering down off the coasts of *wherever*, and are awaiting test results, and living in quarantine. 

[fishnchips]

MSC Opera denied entry to Malta 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-51764135

Edited March 6, 2020 by fishnchips

[Colo Cruiser]

Posts are referencing 2 different things.

1 being denied docking at a port because the port authorities are paranoid.

2 being held up because there are actual cases onboard. 

[dns65]

1 hour ago, Stateroom_Sailor said:

Larger fleet than HAL and Celebrity, plus bad luck.

 

Carnival has a larger fleet than Princess.    

[put me on a ship]

3 hours ago, WoodstockGirl said:

 

Why are only Princess cruises being caught in the "you can't dock here" situation? First the Diamond, now the Grand?  Not Celebrity, not HAL, not RC... etc.

 

Are there other ships in the same situation, but our news media aren't telling us?

Or is it Princess's itineraries being different in some way?

Or should my question be, "why are the Princess pax being identified as having C-virus and not the other cruise line pax"?  I know about the Westerdarm, and maybe another one(?) in Feb, but now Princess is in this situation again. 

What is happening with Princess that is different....? 

Or is it the media not reporting any others, only Princess? 

 

Just curious....

 

There's been several cruise lines that have been denied. MSC, Carnival, Holland America, Costa, Fred Olson, just to name a few.

[Stateroom_Sailor]

7 minutes ago, dns65 said:

 

Carnival has a larger fleet than Princess.    

 

Not in Asia or the West Coast. 

[WoodstockGirl]

31 minutes ago, Colo Cruiser said:

Posts are referencing 2 different things.

1 being denied docking at a port because the port authorities are paranoid.

2 being held up because there are actual cases onboard. 

 

 

Yes, you're right.  Even I didn't realize that I was merging the two in the way I asked the original question.

 

The heart of my question was more to do with the quarantine situation......

 

Are other ships - other cruise lines - being held in place (off shore, or in ports) because of outbreaks, and/or for testing results,, and/or for quarantine. Both the ships that have been held in quarantine and received the media attention were Princess. 

 

Some here say "just the luck of the draw". 

Too bad it's been Princess both times that has been so unlucky.  

 

 

 

Edited March 6, 2020 by WoodstockGirl

[WonderMan3]

Jamaica and Grand Cayman have turned away several ships from Carnival and MSC. It caused Carnival to drop both ports for the rest of the season I believe.

[WoodstockGirl]

8 minutes ago, CarelessAndConfused said:

That she’s curious, just like me.  I’ve been wondering the same thing since the Grand situation came about.

 

 

Yes; thank you for seeing the heart of my curiosity.... that I am curious. 

 

I just think it's a bit curious - interesting to note -  that it's been a Princess ship both times that have had actual outbreaks onboard, and that have had onboard quarantines, and testings. Why is this not happening on other ships?  Or is this happening on other ships, but being handled differently? OR is it not being reported in the media? OR is it not being reported in the media that I read and/or listen to? 

If it is happening on other ships, in other locations, I would like to hear about it, too.  

 

I didn't think it a "media conspiracy" when I said the media ... I only meant to reflect a couple of the answers that had been given by previous posters in response to my question. Neither did I think they were being conspiracy minded when they pointed out to me that our media isn't as European focused, and that different media report different things.

 

Just clarifying.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Taters]

3 hours ago, joepeka said:

HAL Westerdam was in that same situation in Asia at the same time as Diamond.

No it wasn't. 

 

Diamond Princess had coronavirus on board.

 

Westerdam did NOT have coronavirus on board.