****NON-CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE OPERATION SUSPENSIONS****

[xostacylee]

1 hour ago, Stick93 said:

They are cancelling everything that is outside every day needs. Cruising is next. It hurts to hear this but they cannot afford to have 10 ships with infected people and at the rate this is going -  that will happen. 

John Heald JUST posted about adding additional layers to people getting on cruise ships - didn't say anything about cancelling surprisingly!

 

I don't know who holds the authority to cancel aside from the docks no longer letting them embark at their cruise. My friends are currently on the Imagination that sails today (I'm scheduled for next Friday and am SO torn)

[billfish]

13 minutes ago, Radiioman46 said:

Actually, in more than two months, the two ships by Princess that were affected, only one was here in the US. 

 

So I question your 'rate that this is going'. Can you show me your math of how you calculated this dangerous rate. 

 

I'm not attacking you, let me be clear. But at some point, ppl should start looking at the numbers for themselves. 

 

Go on a Cruise      Don't like the ODDS    I'll pass

[Host Carolyn]

4 hours ago, Freebo said:

Carnival has not cancelled any cruises that I am aware of. The thread you point to is for cancellations by passengers, which is not applicable. We realize Carnival has not cancelled, but the non-Carnival thread is a discussion of whether Carnival might decide to cancel, like they did for Princess.

 

It is to discussed with

4 hours ago, Freebo said:

Carnival has not cancelled any cruises that I am aware of. The thread you point to is for cancellations by passengers, which is not applicable. We realize Carnival has not cancelled, but the non-Carnival thread is a discussion of whether Carnival might decide to cancel, like they did for Princess.

 

As title suggests it is to discuss other cruise  lines that have ceased operating for now.  I was trying to create a place for non-Carnival discussion of this so you guys could post about that and not be off topic.  So far Princess and Virgin have suspended operations.  More may follow?  I didn't think it would be so confusing😕. I can close it if it is.

[AmBear]

41 minutes ago, Radiioman46 said:

Actually, in more than two months, the two ships by Princess that were affected, only one was here in the US. 

 

So I question your 'rate that this is going'. Can you show me your math of how you calculated this dangerous rate. 

 

I'm not attacking you, let me be clear. But at some point, ppl should start looking at the numbers for themselves. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-has-italy-lockdown-what-rest-us-have-look-forward-n1155396

 

All these corporate companies NBA, NHL, MLB, NCAA, Broadway, Disney, etc., who 'exist to make money', aren't shutting down because this is nothing!

Maybe we should take the hint, but if not, I wish you good health, because health is always more important then a few bucks!

[Hoosierpop]

3 minutes ago, AmBear said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-has-italy-lockdown-what-rest-us-have-look-forward-n1155396

 

All these corporate companies NBA, NHL, MLB, NCAA, Broadway, Disney, etc., who 'exist to make money', aren't shutting down because this is nothing!

Maybe we should take the hint, but if not, I wish you good health, because health is always more important then a few bucks!

The issue isn’t that it’s nothing. The question is: what is the proper response?

 

I think anyone in a high risk category should stay at home as much as possible. If they have to work, fine. Otherwise, stay home.

 

But I’ll bet a lot of people, who want things canceled, are likely going out in public even though it’s not necessary for them to do so. 

[AandBmom]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierpop said:

The issue isn’t that it’s nothing. The question is: what is the proper response?

 

I think anyone in a high risk category should stay at home as much as possible. If they have to work, fine. Otherwise, stay home.

 

But I’ll bet a lot of people, who want things canceled, are likely going out in public even though it’s not necessary for them to do so. 

I believe the proper response is for each of us to limit activities that help this spread to ease the risk to the vulnerable ones in our communities and to ease the strain on the medical system that's already bursting at the seams. 

[Hoosierpop]

6 minutes ago, AandBmom said:

I believe the proper response is for each of us to limit activities that help this spread to ease the risk to the vulnerable ones in our communities and to ease the strain on the medical system that's already bursting at the seams. 

I agree. But that’s not as easy as it sounds. If I go on a cruise, people might say...you are part of the problem. But if I go on that cruise and then self quarantine after, I’m not part of the problem.

 

But if I go to the store today and get infected . And then to a restaurant this weekend, and then a store next week, I may have infected several people. But all I did were things most people are going to continue to do going forward.

 

The best way to keep the burden down on the hospitals is for older folks and people with underlying conditions to only be in public if absolutely necessary. But that’s not going to happen.

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by Hoosierpop

[bobsfamily]

9 hours ago, indygirl76 said:

ARGH. I'm supposed to board the Pride on Sunday. Just three more days for Carnival to hold off doing the same, and I'm golden!

I just heard that the Gov. of Maryland has closed the cruise terminal:

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-closings-cruise-ship-terminal-closed-at-port-of-baltimore-gov-hogan-says/

[AmBear]

1 hour ago, Hoosierpop said:

The issue isn’t that it’s nothing. The question is: what is the proper response?

 

I think anyone in a high risk category should stay at home as much as possible. If they have to work, fine. Otherwise, stay home.

 

But I’ll bet a lot of people, who want things canceled, are likely going out in public even though it’s not necessary for them to do so. 

from the CDC, some might think its just for the high risk, but its for everyone. 

[Stick93]

There is no doubt by limiting our movements and not doing extra things were are sparing people this virus who may not be able to fight it properly. I think to deny this is not accepting the general principles of avoiding this outbreak. This is hopefully a once in a generation outbreak that we have never seen before. Everyone must curb their activities to help the general public. I think cruise companies should suspend travel as its their staff they need to protect more than the passengers themselves. 

[Hoosierpop]

7 minutes ago, AmBear said:

from the CDC, some might think its just for the high risk, but its for everyone. 

So, you don’t you out in public at all? Is so, good for you. No chance I’m doing that.

[indygirl76]

1 hour ago, bobsfamily said:

I just heard that the Gov. of Maryland has closed the cruise terminal:

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-closings-cruise-ship-terminal-closed-at-port-of-baltimore-gov-hogan-says/

I know. Sigh. I've been on the phone making substitute vacation plans for an hour and a half. 

[mpdog42]

4 hours ago, carib1 said:

I think it would be good to suspend all cruises for at least 60 days.  Some people are carriers of COVID-19 and will not exhibit any symptoms, meanwhile they can spread the virus.  But the reason is:  these small islands have very limited resources and medical facilities, I would not want to spread the virus to any of these locations--they simply cannot handle it.  I have read some islands have already started to deny ships to dock.  What happens when all the islands forbid docking?

I love to cruise, and have some really great casino offers starting @ $10pp, but I also have lung disease and will not risk going.  I have already spent 6 weeks sick this year with the Coronavirus OC43, but the CDC did not test me for the COVID-19, because I had not been out of the country, but i was in contact with a customer who had just returned from Thailand, so I may have already had the COVID-19 and just didn't know it.  It was a horrible illness, and I struggled to breathe everyday, my blood pressure shot up to dangerous levels and was admitted to the hospital, and was in isolation.  Stay healthy everyone!

Yeah You too, Hope the best for you!!

[ozzie0075]

 

Disney is shutting down Disneyland, Disneyworld and Disney cruise line. 

 

[IBMelissa]

56 minutes ago, ozzie0075 said:

 

Disney is shutting down Disneyland, Disneyworld and Disney cruise line. 

 

I wonder how long / how much more pressure it will take Carnival to follow suit. As of right now I'm scheduled to leave on the Dream next Saturday 😞

[stcruise]

Windstar Cruises just announced:

 

SEATTLE, WA, March 12, 2020 – Small ship cruise operator Windstar Cruises announced today that the company will temporarily suspend operations worldwide for cruises embarking March 14 through April 30, 2020 due to the unpredictable environment surrounding the coronavirus COVID-19 pandemic.
“After much thought, we believe we are making the most responsible decision we can during this coronavirus pandemic,” said Christopher Prelog, chief operating officer of Windstar Cruises. “This worldwide pause in the operation of our fleet of small ships is an effort to curb the spread of the virus and keep our guests, crew and the communities we visit, safe and healthy. We look forward to resuming operations again on May 1 with a return to offering our 180 degrees from ordinary vacation experience.”
Windstar will temporarily suspend operations of all sailings embarking on March 14 through April 30, 2020. Cruises will begin operating again according to schedule on May 1, 2020.
Windstar Cruises regrets the cancellation of travelers’ vacations. Guests on cancelled cruises will receive the choice of a Future Cruise Credit valued at 125% of all monies paid to Windstar Cruises or a refund equal to the amount paid on the Windstar booking. Guests will have 24 months to book and embark on any available Windstar cruise using their Future Cruise Credit. Windstar Cruises will protect Travel Advisor commissions on the affected bookings.
Windstar’s reservations team is reviewing all affected bookings and will send a letter outlining details to guests and travel advisors with canceled cruises. The reservations team appreciates the patience and understanding of guests and travel advisors as they work through this process.
The staff, executives, officers and crew at Windstar Cruises look forward to hosting travelers again this spring aboard its fleet of six small yachts carrying 148 to 342 guests in scenic and cultural destinations around the world.
Media Contact:
Sarah Scoltock, Windstar Cruises / sarah.scoltock@windstarcruises.com Sally Spaulding, Percepture Public Relations /sspaulding@percepture.com René A. Mack, Percepture Public Relations / rmack@percepture.com

[Stick93]

It’s coming! It’s coming 

[jimbo5544]

4 minutes ago, Stick93 said:

It’s coming! It’s coming 

One of two things need to happen first.  

[Stick93]

1 minute ago, jimbo5544 said:

One of two things need to happen first.  

I am interested to think what you think has to happen and if they can continue operating with this as other companies have clearly taken the lead in preemptively cutting their losses and getting shut out of port?

[jimbo5544]

Just now, Stick93 said:

I am interested to think what you think has to happen and if they can continue operating with this as other companies have clearly taken the lead in preemptively cutting their losses and getting shut out of port?

Royal and NCL, if they did it Carnival would follow

[Hoosierpop]

Based on nothing but opinion but I’m guessing the government shuts things down before Carnival does. Meaning closes the port. Or, if there is another outbreak on a ship. 

 

But I think it’ll be a government thing first.

[Stick93]

10 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

Royal and NCL, if they did it Carnival would follow

Jimbo I'm bust you a bit as you always say Carnival is a leader not a follower. They should be more aggressive. At the very least I think they all three should be taking the same stance and making joint announcements. The articles articles  are saying that NCL is telling people false claims that warm weather and the Caribbean are not effected by the virus. This is a cluster **** of a situation that has potential to be very harmful if not reeled in quickly by all of them  

[jimbo5544]

3 minutes ago, Stick93 said:

Jimbo I'm bust you a bit as you always say Carnival is a leader not a follower. They should be more aggressive. At the very least I think they all three should be taking the same stance and making joint announcements. The articles articles  are saying that NCL is telling people false claims that warm weather and the Caribbean are not effected by the virus. This is a cluster **** of a situation that has potential to be very harmful if not reeled in quickly by all of them  

This is dollars and cents.  Add another to the list Disney Cruise Line

[Hoosierpop]

It just seems like Carnival wants to ride this out. If the government doesn’t force a shut down, then Carnival rolls the dice and hope that between the offers they make to people to cancel, the ban in higher risk people, and their ability to clean the ships, no more outbreaks occur.

 

Otherwise, why not just announce it along with Princess today?

 

I get why people are saying cruises should shut down. But if they are consistent, then they should be saying all public transportation should be shut down. Planes, subway, buses....all of it. If this is really the plague that the media is saying it is, there’s no argument against that.

[jimbo5544]

1 minute ago, Hoosierpop said:

It just seems like Carnival wants to ride this out. If the government doesn’t force a shut down, then Carnival rolls the dice and hope that between the offers they make to people to cancel, the ban in higher risk people, and their ability to clean the ships, no more outbreaks occur.

 

Otherwise, why not just announce it along with Princess today?

 

I get why people are saying cruises should shut down. But if they are consistent, then they should be saying all public transportation should be shut down. Planes, subway, buses....all of it. If this is really the plague that the media is saying it is, there’s no argument against that.

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