coolhandjiohnson Posted March 16, 2020 #176 Share Posted March 16, 2020 The Cruise line only wants to keep all of your money. Future cruise credit is a scam. The refund process is also a scam. Since when do you have to send a form in to choose refund of Future cruise credit. don't forget the fact that refunds will take about 90 days to process, that's plenty of time for them to see what's going on with this corona virus and most of all plenty of time for them to choose to go bankrupt. The bottom line is that cruise passengers will end up receiving nothing. or maybe we will just get about eleven bucks from the settlement of a massive lawsuit 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 17, 2020 #177 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Mytravellove said: On my Princess cruise that was cancelled, I was offered 100% cash refund or 175% FCC. I chose in that case to go with 175% FCC on the basis that I should be able to get a cruise on one of their new ships at much lower prices sometime in 2021. Hopefully they won't claim for bankruptcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 17, 2020 #178 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 hours ago, henry1005 said: I believe RCCL (Celebrity) will survive this and understand the risks. I think they will be fine if not they will be bought out. I see cruises for Fall 2020 are double than what I paid for the same time frame in 2019 but that could change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 17, 2020 #179 Share Posted March 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, coolhandjiohnson said: The Cruise line only wants to keep all of your money. Future cruise credit is a scam. The refund process is also a scam. Since when do you have to send a form in to choose refund of Future cruise credit. don't forget the fact that refunds will take about 90 days to process, that's plenty of time for them to see what's going on with this corona virus and most of all plenty of time for them to choose to go bankrupt. The bottom line is that cruise passengers will end up receiving nothing. or maybe we will just get about eleven bucks from the settlement of a massive lawsuit Time for you to stop cruising, find another hobby and free yourself from those cruise line scammers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCBFlash Posted March 17, 2020 #180 Share Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 7:15 PM, crusinthrough said: I have not seen an increase in prices since FCC started being issued. The cruises I have been looking at in 2021 and 2022 are the exact same price since the sale in Feb ended. Its likely prices will not go down but I don't see an increase now. In addition, the 25% would potentially cover the difference in price between current prices and the price that was originally paid for the cancelled cruise. I can tell you that for us to book for the same week next year equal to what we had (veranda cabin with 4 perks) the cost is an additional $1050 after using the 125% FCC. And that would only be a $300 OBC and we had $500. So we will be taking the refund. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechee341 Posted March 17, 2020 #181 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TCBFlash said: I can tell you that for us to book for the same week next year equal to what we had (veranda cabin with 4 perks) the cost is an additional $1050 after using the 125% FCC. And that would only be a $300 OBC and we had $500. So we will be taking the refund. Lots of people will be noticing the same thing when they attempt to rebook using FFC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plettza Posted March 17, 2020 #182 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I'll be taking the cash. The Eclipse cruise was a really good price and was available at the right time at the right place after Westerdam got canned. Also, being from Australia, we'd have to fly back over to Hawaii for a similar itinerary to what we've got now, otherwise using FCC next year, for example, it'll be the similar itineraries to what we've done in the past on other lines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Fly and Sail Posted March 17, 2020 #183 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 hours ago, drakes2 said: I think they will be fine if not they will be bought out. I see cruises for Fall 2020 are double than what I paid for the same time frame in 2019 but that could change. Bought out by whom? If RCL goes under you bet that all other lines are done as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 17, 2020 #184 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Fly and Sail said: Bought out by whom? If RCL goes under you bet that all other lines are done as well. I'm just saying there are all types of scenarios; ie. bankruptcy, buyout, bailout etc. I dont have a crystal ball things are changing by the day. Yesterday restaurants and bars closed today malls are closed or are closing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2400 Posted March 17, 2020 Author #185 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Let's see if they cancel more sailings after April 11 soon..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted March 17, 2020 #186 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 hours ago, coolhandjiohnson said: The Cruise line only wants to keep all of your money. Future cruise credit is a scam. The refund process is also a scam. Since when do you have to send a form in to choose refund of Future cruise credit. don't forget the fact that refunds will take about 90 days to process, that's plenty of time for them to see what's going on with this corona virus and most of all plenty of time for them to choose to go bankrupt. The bottom line is that cruise passengers will end up receiving nothing. or maybe we will just get about eleven bucks from the settlement of a massive lawsuit What exactly are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B113 Posted March 17, 2020 #187 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Problem is I’m over 70 with a medical condition and if they continue that practice what good is FCC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2400 Posted March 18, 2020 Author #188 Share Posted March 18, 2020 soon RCL stock will be a good buy. Currently its at $21 range. But on the other hand, as every days goes by, RCL bankruptcy chances are creeping up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 18, 2020 #189 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pedro2400 said: soon RCL stock will be a good buy. Currently its at $21 range. But on the other hand, as every days goes by, RCL bankruptcy chances are creeping up.... If they do go bankrupt I'll be out the FCC even though it's not much. I really hope not I love Celebrity also Princess. My Celebrity vacation planner is only processing cancelled no new bookings. I was thinking it would all be back to normal by end summer. Not so sure now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2400 Posted March 18, 2020 Author #190 Share Posted March 18, 2020 i agree, we all love cruising. I think things will get to normal soon. But it will take very long time for cruise industry to get back to normal from where we are today and where we will be in next 15 days.... keeping fingers cross.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 18, 2020 #191 Share Posted March 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Pedro2400 said: i agree, we all love cruising. I think things will get to normal soon. But it will take very long time for cruise industry to get back to normal from where we are today and where we will be in next 15 days.... keeping fingers cross.. I'm like you trying to be optimistic but I'm also a realist. Never give up hope, or you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sippican Posted March 18, 2020 #192 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) I was origianlly told that FCCs could be applied to any cruise up unitl the end of 2021, even those already booked. Now it seems the FCC is for new bookings only. I've switched to the full refund camp. Edited March 18, 2020 by sippican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaFej Posted March 18, 2020 #193 Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, sippican said: I was origianlly told that FCCs could be applied to any cruise up unitl the end of 2021, even those already booked. Now it seems the FCC is for new bookings only. I've switched to the full refund camp. Thanks for the information! Do you have a link to this information or did it come in an email or other sort of communication, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrJ Berkshire Posted March 18, 2020 #194 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I would be worried re FCC re their current share price. Will they survive this virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffinz Posted March 18, 2020 #195 Share Posted March 18, 2020 someone posted on the facebook group for our (now cancelled) cruise on April 1st out of Auckland, that port taxes / fees are not refunded if you opt for the 100% refund Can someone confirm if that's correct or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sippican Posted March 18, 2020 #196 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MamaFej said: Thanks for the information! Do you have a link to this information or did it come in an email or other sort of communication, please? First I heard it from a TA who attended an RCCL webinar today, then, with some research I found it under the terms of the Cruise With Confidence guarantee. Edited March 18, 2020 by sippican 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 18, 2020 #197 Share Posted March 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, sippican said: I was origianlly told that FCCs could be applied to any cruise up unitl the end of 2021, even those already booked. Now it seems the FCC is for new bookings only. I've switched to the full refund camp. They are not applicable to Easter or xmas season according to email received today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaFej Posted March 18, 2020 #198 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, sippican said: First I heard it from a TA who attended an RCCL webinar today, then, with some research I found it under the terms of the Cruise With Confidence guarantee. Found it. Thanks. That changes things. We have ten 2020-2022 cruises booked on Celebrity, in addition to the canceled ones. I'm not in a hurry to book more. I'm really disappointed, and I think this is short-sighted on Celebrity's part, as it will encourage more people to take the cash now. One would think they would not be doing things to encourage a further hemorrhaging of cash on hand. Disclaimer: I didn't get a Business degree, so I could be way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaFej Posted March 18, 2020 #199 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, drakes2 said: They are not applicable to Easter or xmas season according to email received today. Wow! So people who had Easter cruises canceled aren't allowed to use what they paid for an Easter cruise? Disappointing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 18, 2020 #200 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, sippican said: First I heard it from a TA who attended an RCCL webinar today, then, with some research I found it under the terms of the Cruise With Confidence guarantee. There have been multiple changes over the past couple of weeks, and I fear that some of us are going to get hit by the rule changes. We cancelled a week and a half ago and were advised by Celebrity that the FCC could be used for existing bookings. When the FCC's arrived, there was no prohibition against using them for existing bookings in the accompanying instructions, but they state "Additional terms and conditions apply", pretty much giving them carte blanche to do as they see fit. If we had waited until Celebrity cancelled, we would have had the option of a 100% refund. Now we have an FCC which we can't use on a booking we have for next March. Not quite fair IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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