Rare LincolnLegend Posted April 5, 2021 #3676 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I've just booked a cruise that I'm fairly confident will happen! Granted, it's 3 hours long and cruising around our local bay but still! It's onboard the MV Oceanic Victor and is part of our local SALT festival. There are 3 comedians on board, along with seafood tasting platters, a full bar and cocktails! It's a pity there are no cabins, we may be looking for one after all that! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted April 5, 2021 #3677 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I found this peer reviewed article on the British Medical Journal which gives the facts about the various variants of SARS-CoV-2 and effectivity of the vaccines. BMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted April 5, 2021 #3678 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, LincolnLegend said: I've just booked a cruise that I'm fairly confident will happen! Granted, it's 3 hours long and cruising around our local bay but still! It's onboard the MV Oceanic Victor and is part of our local SALT festival. There are 3 comedians on board, along with seafood tasting platters, a full bar and cocktails! It's a pity there are no cabins, we may be looking for one after all that! That looks like a great cruise. Are you able to B2B? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LincolnLegend Posted April 5, 2021 #3679 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, By The Bay said: That looks like a great cruise. Are you able to B2B? Haha, think it may be a one off, testing the waters maybe? We will definitely make the most of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell21 Posted April 5, 2021 #3680 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Saw an article yesterday regarding the joint effort by Russia and China to try and spread rumours regarding the efficiency of various vaccines and various strains of Covid. I would tend to treat any bad news with a grain of salt unless it has a gold plated source. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 5, 2021 #3681 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, By The Bay said: I could not find in your reference that "it’s immune to the vaccines." There nothing in that article. On this radio interview this doctor said the Brazilian strain is new in Europe. He said there’s quite a few people coming down with it that have been vaccinated . And there’s evidence it is resistant to some vaccines. I don’t know what vaccines?Some are better than others. There was some talk in Brazil the Chinese one wasn’t much good. You will just have to take my word for it. A friend said to me once. You have lied before ,you are lying now and you will lie in the future. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2021 #3682 Share Posted April 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: There nothing in that article. On this radio interview this doctor said the Brazilian strain is new in Europe. He said there’s quite a few people coming down with it that have been vaccinated . And there’s evidence it is resistant to some vaccines. I don’t know what vaccines?Some are better than others. There was some talk in Brazil the Chinese one wasn’t much good. You will just have to take my word for it. A friend said to me once. You have lied before ,you are lying now and you will lie in the future. LOL I found this which popped up on FB. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-brazil-top-doctor-warns-of-new-covid19-virus-killing-the-young-in-their-thousands/f4954f85-a1fb-4c38-b255-651daed725e4?fbclid=IwAR3j155XLkl8pjsaxR-rxdrM87K0ebDaeNbsJz20R6teWBNuzTgmkZRb3fs Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 5, 2021 #3683 Share Posted April 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, possum52 said: I found this which popped up on FB. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-brazil-top-doctor-warns-of-new-covid19-virus-killing-the-young-in-their-thousands/f4954f85-a1fb-4c38-b255-651daed725e4?fbclid=IwAR3j155XLkl8pjsaxR-rxdrM87K0ebDaeNbsJz20R6teWBNuzTgmkZRb3fs Leigh It didn’t work, I think it is blocked by CC. Its probably the same as I linked earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted April 5, 2021 #3684 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, ilikeanswers said: Let's all take a breath : Do the coronavirus vaccines work on variants? Here’s what we know so far Pfizer Covid vaccine 'is 100% effective against South African variant, beats Brazilian strain' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted April 5, 2021 #3685 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, ilikeanswers said: Jolly good news re Pfizer, trouble is the masses in Straya are now receiving the cheaper Astra vaccine. The pollies and the heavies got the good stuff, the Pfizer.😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2021 #3686 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: It didn’t work, I think it is blocked by CC. Its probably the same as I linked earlier. Sorry Phillip. Yes I tried to link it but it didn't work, put the whole address in. CC must have blocked it or there is a glitch somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted April 5, 2021 #3687 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, possum52 said: Sorry Phillip. Yes I tried to link it but it didn't work, put the whole address in. CC must have blocked it or there is a glitch somewhere. I copy/pasted it and it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare onlyslightlymad Posted April 5, 2021 #3688 Share Posted April 5, 2021 This opinion piece in this morning's Herald states: About 12 per cent of Canada, 46 per cent of the UK, and 30 per cent of the US have received at least one vaccine dose. Just over 1 per cent of New Zealand's population had, according to the latest update on Wednesday, while Australia sits at about 2.5 per cent. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-coronavirus-will-nz-be-left-high-and-dry-in-global-movement-for-vaccinated-countries/AUGOIAIMEUYMWWNRVOM7LSI62Y/ Assuming these figures are up to date, still a wee way to go .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted April 5, 2021 #3689 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Let see if this work: 2 minutes ago, possum52 said: Sorry Phillip. Yes I tried to link it but it didn't work, put the whole address in. CC must have blocked it or there is a glitch somewhere. Troublemaker for the next surge': Top doctor warns of new COVID-19 virus killing the young in their thousands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 5, 2021 #3690 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, NSWP said: Jolly good news re Pfizer, trouble is the masses in Straya are now receiving the cheaper Astra vaccine. The pollies and the heavies got the good stuff, the Pfizer.😁 Weren’t they thinking of producing the Pfizer in oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted April 5, 2021 #3691 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NSWP said: Jolly good news re Pfizer, trouble is the masses in Straya are now receiving the cheaper Astra vaccine. The pollies and the heavies got the good stuff, the Pfizer.😁 To be fair the article did say AstraZeneca is showing promise against the variants but they have yet to conduct any trials like Pfizer did to confirm this. Edited April 5, 2021 by ilikeanswers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 5, 2021 #3692 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, possum52 said: Sorry Phillip. Yes I tried to link it but it didn't work, put the whole address in. CC must have blocked it or there is a glitch somewhere. They block the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare onlyslightlymad Posted April 5, 2021 #3693 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, ilikeanswers said: To be fair the article did day AstraZeneca is showing promise against the variants but they have yet to conduct any trials like Pfizer did to confirm this. That's an an interesting article. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2021 #3694 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said: Let see if this work: Troublemaker for the next surge': Top doctor warns of new COVID-19 virus killing the young in their thousands Thanks, don't know why it wouldn't hyperlink for me. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2021 #3695 Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Weren’t they thinking of producing the Pfizer in oz. I don't believe so Phillip as there is only one company in Australia to can make the vaccine I think - CSL in Melbourme. I think there was talk CSL could also make the Novavac as well but last I heard that may not happen.They also make the fluvax as well, I'm pretty sure. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted April 5, 2021 #3696 Share Posted April 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Weren’t they thinking of producing the Pfizer in oz. We don’t have the technology available in Oz to make Pfizer or Moderna. There is talk of need for significant investment to be able to make mRNA based drugs here. https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-02-09/covid-19-vaccines-australia-mrna-medical-revolution/13132252 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted April 5, 2021 Author #3697 Share Posted April 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, NSWP said: Jolly good news re Pfizer, trouble is the masses in Straya are now receiving the cheaper Astra vaccine. The pollies and the heavies got the good stuff, the Pfizer.😁 Don't confuse cheaper with lower quality in this case. The reason AZ is cheaper is that the company decided not to profit from it, the cost of it only covers their costs to manufacture it. Pfizer are making a profit from selling their vaccine which is why it is considerably more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted April 5, 2021 #3698 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Don't confuse cheaper with lower quality in this case. The reason AZ is cheaper is that the company decided not to profit from it, the cost of it only covers their costs to manufacture it. Pfizer are making a profit from selling their vaccine which is why it is considerably more expensive. Good article detailing vaccine profits: From Pfizer to Moderna: who’s making billions from Covid-19 vaccines? While we are on profits here is someone else making a fortune of vaccines: Vaccine prince': the Indian billionaire set to make Covid jabs for the UK Edited April 5, 2021 by ilikeanswers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2021 #3699 Share Posted April 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Don't confuse cheaper with lower quality in this case. The reason AZ is cheaper is that the company decided not to profit from it, the cost of it only covers their costs to manufacture it. Pfizer are making a profit from selling their vaccine which is why it is considerably more expensive. About 12 times more expensive I think Julie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted April 5, 2021 Author #3700 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said: Good article detailing vaccine profits: From Pfizer to Moderna: who’s making billions from Covid-19 vaccines? Yes, that was the article I remembered reading. Thanks for tracking it down. Edited April 5, 2021 by OzKiwiJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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