Jobs savaged in travel

[MicCanberra]

Any Australian living in Australia and who was already on a welfare payment got the stimulus money.

[NSWP]

2 minutes ago, dillpickle48 said:

The Australian Government paid a one-off $750 to any australian receiving any form of government pension or family payment.  This was done to assist them and help the economy because it was considered that they would most likely spend it and thus boost the economy.  No forms to fill out, it just arrived in my account.

Also to Commonwealth Seniors Health Care Card holders like us self funded retirees who get no Centrelink handout.  Another $750 coming in July or August I think.

[mr walker]

52 minutes ago, dillpickle48 said:

The Australian Government paid a one-off $750 to any australian receiving any form of government pension or family payment.  This was done to assist them and help the economy because it was considered that they would most likely spend it and thus boost the economy.  No forms to fill out, it just arrived in my account.

There was a book-of-faces post where the lucky recipient posted/boasted, with a photo as proof, that he bought 8 cartons of VB with his $750 (expensive I think 🙂 ) , so spend it he did. He said it would do him for the weekend. Comments included people cheering him on, other saying he should have spent it with a business that needed the money, not a huge brewery, and another who pointed out that much of the cost of the beer was tax, so he had stupidly returned much of the money to the government.

Truly, you can't make this stuff up

[mr walker]

1 hour ago, dillpickle48 said:

 

duplicate - this website seems to stick every so often 🙂

Edited April 7, 2020 by mr walker

[lyndarra]

1 hour ago, NSWP said:

Also to Commonwealth Seniors Health Care Card holders like us self funded retirees who get no Centrelink handout.  Another $750 coming in July or August I think.

I wonder if I scraped in with my recent application for CSHC? Will have to check my account I suppose.

[lyndarra]

Nope. Nothing there.

[Aus Traveller]

2 hours ago, NSWP said:

Also to Commonwealth Seniors Health Care Card holders like us self funded retirees who get no Centrelink handout.  Another $750 coming in July or August I think.

Yes. We don't have to be on a welfare payment. 😁

[MicCanberra]

26 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said:

Yes. We don't have to be on a welfare payment. 😁

The CSHC may not be a welfare payment but it is a welfare card which enables concessions.

[possum52]

2 hours ago, lyndarra said:

Nope. Nothing there.

I think it is still going in accounts until the 17th April, so you may still get it lyndarra.
 

Leigh. 

[TSmith48]

My report card on the government would be, "Short attention span, likes to be the centre of attention, fails to listen, is selective in application, slow starter but gets there eventually, shows potential,"
 

Heh - got it in one!
Regards, Tara


Tara

[cruisine21]

5 hours ago, lyndarra said:

Nope. Nothing there.

 

My husband is still hasn’t received anything.

Edited April 7, 2020 by cruisine21

[MMDown Under]

On 3/28/2020 at 6:21 PM, icat2000 said:

Probably why Morrison doesn't want to shut the country up completely and wants those who can work, work.

I think it is strange that those with no work, who are kept employed by the Govt subsidy to their employer, don't count as unemployed.  So the unemployed figures look better than they actually are.  

[Pushka]

8 minutes ago, MMDown Under said:

I think it is strange that those with no work, who are kept employed by the Govt subsidy to their employer, don't count as unemployed.  So the unemployed figures look better than they actually are.  

The concept being that they have a job but the company can't afford to pay them just yet but they will have their job when it's financially able to pay salaries again. Saved us from losing our valuable worker coz we sure as heck have no income for our business come July. 

[The_Big_M]

2 hours ago, MMDown Under said:

I think it is strange that those with no work, who are kept employed by the Govt subsidy to their employer, don't count as unemployed.  So the unemployed figures look better than they actually are.  

 

It's an exceptional situation.

 

And they are still both employees, with an employer, so it's not accurate to class them as unemployed either.

[MMDown Under]

10 minutes ago, The_Big_M said:

 

It's an exceptional situation.

 

And they are still both employees, with an employer, so it's not accurate to class them as unemployed either.

I know but I still think it is tricky, like one is not counted as unemployed if you are employed an hour a week!  Maybe someone will do a list of Underemployed one day.  In US, they have the working poor.  I just hope we don't have the working poor in Aust.  

One story which has stayed with me is a story of a young mother with two young children working three jobs in Orlando, Florida.  She rented a single room in one of the cheap accommodations south of WDW and had her MIL mind the children whilst she tried to hold down three jobs.  The story had a happy ending, as one of charity groups got her an apartment to rent.  

Edited April 20, 2020 by MMDown Under

[MMDown Under]

2 hours ago, Pushka said:

The concept being that they have a job but the company can't afford to pay them just yet but they will have their job when it's financially able to pay salaries again. Saved us from losing our valuable worker coz we sure as heck have no income for our business come July. 

I understand the concept, as it helped my daughter's work stay in business.  Day 1 it lost 60% of its business and its young employees lost 100% of their private weekend work as musos.  

[Pushka]

31 minutes ago, MMDown Under said:

I understand the concept, as it helped my daughter's work stay in business.  Day 1 it lost 60% of its business and its young employees lost 100% of their private weekend work as musos.  

Being unemployed brings in a whole range of other benefits like health card concessions and utilities concessions etc etc and is just not appropriate at this time when there is a job for you, just no money to pay you. 

[ilikeanswers]

A local travel agent in my suburb that has been around as long as I could remember put a notice they are closed for good. They specialised in Middle East travel and they did a lot of Hajj visas. Saudi Arabia suspended all Hajj visas somewhere in February which I suspect that would have been a huge cut to their revenue. Then to have all travel suspended would have left them little room to move. I had been planning of using them for my Middle East trip as I know people who have used them, worked for them and they were highly regarded. Very sad😔. I expect we will lose a lot of independant travel agents by the time this is over.

[Roger88]

21 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

A local travel agent in my suburb that has been around as long as I could remember put a notice they are closed for good. They specialised in Middle East travel and they did a lot of Hajj visas. Saudi Arabia suspended all Hajj visas somewhere in February which I suspect that would have been a huge cut to their revenue. Then to have all travel suspended would have left them little room to move. I had been planning of using them for my Middle East trip as I know people who have used them, worked for them and they were highly regarded. Very sad😔. I expect we will lose a lot of independant travel agents by the time this is over.

I would add to this saying that we will lose some distenations for good for some time. Western "like" countries will be closed for this year and maybe even for 2021, while some middle eastern countries and asian countries (some specific places) will closed like forever.. well until some agency appears that will organise trips there which also be super expensive. Will see

[ilikeanswers]

10 minutes ago, Roger88 said:

I would add to this saying that we will lose some distenations for good for some time. Western "like" countries will be closed for this year and maybe even for 2021, while some middle eastern countries and asian countries (some specific places) will closed like forever.. well until some agency appears that will organise trips there which also be super expensive. Will see

 

While I agree that some destinations won't open up for awhile I am a bit confused by your last statement, Generally Asia and Middle East are not that expensive, I can't see the cost rising that dramatically😳.

[MMDown Under]

1 hour ago, Pushka said:

Being unemployed brings in a whole range of other benefits like health card concessions and utilities concessions etc etc and is just not appropriate at this time when there is a job for you, just no money to pay you. 

I'm confused.  how can someone survive on no money, without benefits, in the short term?

[Pushka]

13 minutes ago, MMDown Under said:

I'm confused.  how can someone survive on no money, without benefits, in the short term?

They have to receive JobKeeper minimum of $3000 gross a month. This month. That's what we were talking about. 

[MMDown Under]

21 minutes ago, Pushka said:

They have to receive JobKeeper minimum of $3000 gross a month. This month. That's what we were talking about. 

I must admit I don't understand Jobseeker and Jobkeeper benefits.  I get the message it is all about jobs, jobs, but that is all.  

[Pushka]

21 minutes ago, MMDown Under said:

I must admit I don't understand Jobseeker and Jobkeeper benefits.  I get the message it is all about jobs, jobs, but that is all.  

For an employer to receive $1500 a FN for each employee they must experience at least a 30% reduction in Income AND continue to pay all employees $1500 FN gross salary. 
 

So as far as the employer is concerned it’s money in = money out but keep employees around you. They don’t even have to work. Up to the employer. 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Pushka

[The_Big_M]

3 hours ago, MMDown Under said:

I must admit I don't understand Jobseeker and Jobkeeper benefits.  I get the message it is all about jobs, jobs, but that is all.  

 

Jobseeker is basically a temporary increase in unemployment benefits, which are well below a living wage or any other benefit.

 

Jobkeeper is a supplement to employers, to pass on to employees, with conditions such as the key one that the business has suffered a 30%+ downturn (so e.g. businesses like Woolworths, banks and so on who haven't been hit (much) don't get it).