Oak Hill Cruisers Posted April 29, 2020 #1 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hmmm, curious as to how HAL and other lines are going to start sailing in July before the CDC July 24th 'No-Sail' date. Must be fierce negotiations going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted April 29, 2020 #2 Share Posted April 29, 2020 July 24th is only one milestone -- there are two other options -- and I won't speculate as to the chances of either (1) or (2) happening. 🙂 Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted April 29, 2020 #3 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) I really do not think this can happen. We have government advisories at Level 3 for everywhere except our home country. In two months maybe things will change enough for the better ? Couple that with trying to get medical travel insurance for anything that could happen and .... poof goes the whole idea. Edited April 29, 2020 by SilvertoGold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Hill Cruisers Posted May 1, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted May 1, 2020 So, if the HHS Secretary does not expire the declaration of public emergency, then there's option (2) "The CDC Director rescinds or modifies the order based on specific health or other considerations;" What if, in order for HAL to resume sailing before the July 24th No-Sail date, the CDC insists that the passengers wear masks in the public areas -- like the airlines are starting to do? Would you sail if you had to wear a mask outside your stateroom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loreto Posted May 1, 2020 #5 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Oak Hill Cruisers said: So, if the HHS Secretary does not expire the declaration of public emergency, then there's option (2) "The CDC Director rescinds or modifies the order based on specific health or other considerations;" What if, in order for HAL to resume sailing before the July 24th No-Sail date, the CDC insists that the passengers wear masks in the public areas -- like the airlines are starting to do? Would you sail if you had to wear a mask outside your stateroom? As someone who has an Alaska cruise on the Eurodam July 11, I would wear a mask. Our March Hawaii cruise was cancelled by HAL and I am patiently waiting for a refund. I don't want to go through this again with a cancelled Alaska cruise. Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted May 1, 2020 #6 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Loreto said: As someone who has an Alaska cruise on the Eurodam July 11, I would wear a mask. Our March Hawaii cruise was cancelled by HAL and I am patiently waiting for a refund. I don't want to go through this again with a cancelled Alaska cruise. Karen I will only wear a mask outside my stateroom if I can wear my robe also. This way I can color coordinate and look my best. Edited May 1, 2020 by Nymich 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindaler Posted May 2, 2020 #7 Share Posted May 2, 2020 If you had to wear a mask how would you eat in the dinning room or have a drink in the crows nest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredric22 Posted May 2, 2020 #8 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Masks for guests on cruise ships are not practical, in my opinion. I do think when cruises start up again, some people will choose to wear them at certain times and I think that is completely fine. I think it is far more likely that some crew (depending on their job) or perhaps even all crew will be mandated to wear masks. I am not against this idea, but I do think it would serve as a constant reminder to guests about the virus. Since people usually go on vacation to relax and not worry about things like that, it might make it a bit unnerving to see all crew members wearing masks all day. Can you imagine the captain strolling the ship and greeting guests wearing a surgical mask? I, for one, would rather just see COVID-19 testing/screening at embarkation in exchange for a more "normal" cruising experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted May 2, 2020 #9 Share Posted May 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Fredric22 said: I, for one, would rather just see COVID-19 testing/screening at embarkation in exchange for a more "normal" cruising experience. Unless you test every passenger (and crew member) every day, you won't know who has coronavirus onboard. Some could board having been exposed but not yet detectable by test. Some could be exposed at any port visited along the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted May 2, 2020 #10 Share Posted May 2, 2020 21 hours ago, Oak Hill Cruisers said: Would you sail if you had to wear a mask outside your stateroom? Absolutely not. Too hot and uncomfortable. Can't talk with other passengers. Would rather stay home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimnKaren Posted May 2, 2020 #11 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I have a hearing deficit and wear hearing aids; yet, I find myself reading lips more often than not. Just returned from a trip to restock wine and the clerk (wearing a mask), kept saying something and I did not know what she was saying. Add that big plastic barrier and I had zero idea what was happening. If they were to try to do that on a cruise, then I would probably just stay in my cabin. Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cbr663 Posted May 2, 2020 #12 Share Posted May 2, 2020 4 hours ago, cruisemom42 said: Unless you test every passenger (and crew member) every day, you won't know who has coronavirus onboard. Some could board having been exposed but not yet detectable by test. Some could be exposed at any port visited along the way. I recently read an article on what is happening in Wuhan as it lifts restrictions. Workers there have to have temperature checks 4 times a day. So yes, at a minimum, all people on board would have to be assessed every day. A mask isn't going to overcome the fundamental flaw of cruise ships - cruise ships are not designed for physical distancing. In fact, they are designed to cram the most people possible into them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cbr663 Posted May 2, 2020 #13 Share Posted May 2, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 11:22 AM, Oak Hill Cruisers said: ..... Would you sail if you had to wear a mask outside your stateroom? No, I would not sail. Primarily because I wouldn't feel safe. Also because I haven't any idea what the cruise experience is going to be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted May 2, 2020 #14 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Don't want to go sailing off on a hospital ship.......Not my idea of a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Btimmer Posted May 2, 2020 #15 Share Posted May 2, 2020 With many of the crew currently being repatriated to their home countries using HAL and other cruise line ships, there's little chance of cruising resuming by July 24, 2020. How do they retrieve their crews? Restarting operations would appear to me to be a one to three month process. And that assumes readily available flights and other infrastructure in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted May 2, 2020 #16 Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 hours ago, cbr663 said: I recently read an article on what is happening in Wuhan as it lifts restrictions. Workers there have to have temperature checks 4 times a day. So yes, at a minimum, all people on board would have to be assessed every day. A mask isn't going to overcome the fundamental flaw of cruise ships - cruise ships are not designed for physical distancing. In fact, they are designed to cram the most people possible into them. And in fact drydock often adds cabins and takes away common areas making for even more cramming of passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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