Guess The First Itinerary to Sail (No Betting)

[jeb_bud]

57 minutes ago, Wendy The Wanderer said:

 

Can't imagine not wearing a mask now, at least at times when indoors.  Walking around the ship, approaching the dining rooms and lounges, walking on and off the ship, etc. Although plexiglass face masks are on the rise now, and I'm sure technology will continue to improve in this regard. And I think that room stewards will have to wear masks all the time, not just when they're around other people (to prevent spreading fomites around your linen and room.)

 

Wish I had stock in plexiglass, and thank goodness for 3-D printers.

 

 

Thank you, that was my point.  There have to be a lot of design specialists at work on these problems as we speak.

 

Thank you Wendy!  My vocabulary has expanded by one word: fomites.  Now that I have learned something I can relax for the rest of the day.  And it's not even noon yet.

 

Regarding plexiglass barriers, I find that as time goes on it actually makes me a little nervous to walk up to a check stand or customer service counter that is not shielded.  Even if it's just the placebo effect it makes me feel better to have the barrier in place.  For their own safety I would want the Destinations people behind a shield in the theater, although I would hope they could wear plexiglass face shield so we could see their smiling faces.

[Travelcat2]

People behind the desk in the theater (handing out tickets) are moving around a lot so I don't see how this would work.  However, if they wore a mask and/or a face shield, they could move about fairly freely.  However, the service desk for Destination Services could have plexiglass barriers (as well as Reception).  

 

Since plexiglass shields are so comfortable (and effective), I now wear the shield (put on like a pair of glasses) as well as a mask.  It has been proven that all masks are not created equal so, with the uptick in cases across the country, I find wearing both the mask and shield to work just fine.  

 

I am not against plexiglass barriers but they have to be in a place where people are staying pretty much in one place which is why they would not work easily around a bar.  

[pappy1022]

29 minutes ago, Travelcat2 said:

People behind the desk in the theater (handing out tickets) are moving around a lot so I don't see how this would work.  However, if they wore a mask and/or a face shield, they could move about fairly freely.  However, the service desk for Destination Services could have plexiglass barriers (as well as Reception).  

 

Since plexiglass shields are so comfortable (and effective), I now wear the shield (put on like a pair of glasses) as well as a mask.  It has been proven that all masks are not created equal so, with the uptick in cases across the country, I find wearing both the mask and shield to work just fine.  

 

I am not against plexiglass barriers but they have to be in a place where people are staying pretty much in one place which is why they would not work easily around a bar.  

The joy of cruising with a mask and face shield and gloves and social distancing. Even with all that stuff, you can still get sick with COVID aerosol particles when you remove your mask to eat or drink. 

[UUNetBill]

Not me.  Here's my 20/21 cruise wear:

 

[GrJ Berkshire]

32 minutes ago, UUNetBill said:

Not me.  Here's my 20/21 cruise wear:

 

 made me laugh Bill

[John G]

35 minutes ago, UUNetBill said:

Not me.  Here's my 20/21 cruise wear:

 

 

Bet Regent will provide these for "free." We'll probably find them in our cabins, hanging in the closet right next to our bath robes and slippers.

[Travelcat2]

4 minutes ago, John G said:

 

Bet Regent will provide these for "free." We'll probably find them in our cabins, hanging in the closet right next to our bath robes and slippers.

 

I hope that ours is in a different color (but like the purple booties).

[Bellaggio Cruisers]

We are living in a time that masks must be worn everywhere in public until thIs plague is gone. 
So, I would rather be on a ship, wearing a mask, than wearing a mask in the supermarket. 

sheila

[Steve Q]

I may be in the minority, but I think it will be well into 2021 before any serious cruises resume (other than perhaps some short cruises to private islands). I can’t fathom how this could possibly occur.

I remember, and it was only 6-8 weeks ago, when Carnival said that they hoped to begin cruising from Miami and Galveston in early August. Looking back in the rearview mirror, you wonder how they ever thought that was possible. Miami and Houston are two of the primary “Hotspots” in the world at this time. Who would consider flying into those airports for a cruise. 
I really hope the cruise lines are as solvent as they claim (Carnival sold over another billion dollars of bonds today) as I truly believe they are going to need that liquidity. Let’s  just hope that the health crisis begins to subside. 

[Steve Q]

HAL just cancelled their 2021 World Cruise. In addition, they are selling several ships.

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/carnival-sells-four-ships-will-nix-some-cruises-2020-07-15?mod=mw_latestnews

[Got2Cruise]

I’ll be curious to know who will purchase these HAL ships. I mean who needs them now? 

 

I also agree it will be awhile before cruising begins. First flying has to open up. 

[mrlevin]

26 minutes ago, Got2Cruise said:

I’ll be curious to know who will purchase these HAL ships. I mean who needs them now? 

 

I also agree it will be awhile before cruising begins. First flying has to open up. 

 

Fred. Olsen bought two of them; no idea on the other two.

[Got2Cruise]

54 minutes ago, mrlevin said:

 

Fred. Olsen bought two of them; no idea on the other two.

That’s promising to hear. 

[Caroldoll]

8 hours ago, UUNetBill said:

Not me.  Here's my 20/21 cruise wear:

 

LOL  That is slick!

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Sad about the HAL WC and the ships being sold.  Presumably their older, smaller ships, ones that seemed a reasonable albeit mass-market alternative at times.

[GrJ Berkshire]

Been told by UK TA that the ships for bookings into 2021 are only going to fill to 80% capacity, as asking about a Splendour trip in May 2021. which as its Southampton-Southampton, only a good hour from home we are more hopeful about, as no flights etc.

[mrlevin]

New input from CDC:

 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday extended its ban on cruising in U.S. waters through Sept. 30, citing concerns due to expanding coronavirus outbreaks.

The CDC’s no-sail order was previously due to expire on July 24. The Cruise Line International Association, which represents the largest cruise lines in the world, announced last month that its members had agreed to suspend operations until Sept. 15.

[Ladys Mom]

23 minutes ago, mrlevin said:

New input from CDC:

Since virtually all lines that port in US have ceased sailing until at least Sept. 30th, this announcement is a non-starter.  In the meantime, it looks like all Regent November sailings are waitlisted AKA cancelled.  Will December sailings be next, or will we finally able to cruise again?

 

 

 

[mrlevin]

Lady's Mom, you have misquoted me; i.e., all that is in quotes attributed to me was not in my post. 

[flossie009]

The latest CDC Report makes uncomfortable reading.

The "Findings" starting on page 14 do not give confidence that the CDC wish to proactively support the cruise businesses to restart their operations any time soon ☹️

 

[mrlevin]

Susan, thanks for posting.

 

Edited to add:  Just received marketing email from Regent regarding booking transatlantic cruises. It was very telling that they listed the FALL 2021 cruises and not the SPRING 2021 cruises; this may last longer than even pcardad forecast.

 

Marc

Edited July 16, 2020 by mrlevin

[howiefrommd]

Just finished the document that was issued today, I imagine will be CFR tomorrow.  As they always say, the devil is in the details.  What will need to be accomplished to satisfy the requirements as articulated by CDC is significant.  Referencing page 14 entitled "Lack of Consensus Among Cruise Ship Operators and Need for Additional Industry-led Efforts Regarding Safely Resuming Passenger Operations."  Within that part of the document they reference that "over the next few months" the RCL/NCL work group will come up with recommendations.  My guess would say we are probably looking at four to six months before consensus within the work group, then a sign off from CDC. 

 

As I have articulated previously, I have worked for or with many of the players involved, and this stuff takes time.  Personally, I believe meeting was has been proposed to date (as far as medical services) is a herculean effort.  

[seaknots]

 

these paragraphs particularly worrying:

 

"The difficulty to date of cruise ship operators to submit and adhere to appropriate NSO response plans during a time of limited operations, as well as ongoing concerns relating to non- compliance with disease prevention protocols and continued outbreaks of COVID-19 onboard cruise ships, highlight the need for further action prior to resuming passenger operations"

 

"........... the Director of CDC finds that cruise ship travel exacerbates the global spread of COVID-19, that the scope of this pandemic is inherently and necessarily a problem that is international and interstate in nature, and such transmission has not been controlled sufficiently by the cruise ship industry or individual State or local health authorities. As described in the March 14, 2020 Order, cruise ship travel markedly increases the risk and impact of the COVID-19 disease epidemic within the United States"

 

whoever drafted & approved this document is certainly not a fan of cruising or the cruise companies  ☹️

Edited July 16, 2020 by seaknots

[seaknots]

On 7/15/2020 at 5:47 PM, Bellaggio Cruisers said:

So, I would rather be on a ship, wearing a mask, than wearing a mask in the supermarket.