bikerunner Posted June 1, 2020 #1 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Cant post a link to the article since its behind a firewall/security but from Dow Jones Newswires. So here is the article but I change it to my own words so summarized somewhat Point 1> screen crew members' temperature constantly and check passengers' temperature before embarkation and disembarkation, upon returning to the ship from a port of call and before all meals in dining venues as well as activities in public areas. Point 2 > fog staterooms and public areas with hypochlorous acid, Staff members will serve passengers at buffet and beverage stations, Point 3 > Passenger will check in online and have staggered embarkation for social distancing, Point 4 > onboard activities will have reduced capacity. Point 5 > Rapid testing kits Point 6 > creating a new onboard role of public health officer, and crew members will receive new health and safety training, Point 7 > only visit safe and open ports of call. Point 8 > Air filters upgraded to medical grade Mostly common sense stuff it seems. This will be the minimum needed. Still spacing and ship capacity needs to be approached along with how to handle it. Edited June 1, 2020 by bikerunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted June 1, 2020 #2 Share Posted June 1, 2020 All to be expected no show stoppers. Getting people to arrive at the staggered embarkation time may be the biggest challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted June 1, 2020 #3 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Thank you for posting this. I would imagine that such measures will be industry wide as opposed to isolated to a specific cruise line. Additionally, these are likely among a set or measures that will/have been presented to the CDC and if accepted and adopted, will have to be followed by all ships in US ports. "Reduced capacity for onboard activities" is ambiguous. I'd like to know more about this since it would essentially apply to any space outside of the stateroom and leads one to question the quality of the cruise experience related to visiting the casino, spa, pool deck. etc. Edited June 1, 2020 by Georgia_Peaches 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerunner Posted June 1, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, jelayne said: All to be expected no show stoppers. Getting people to arrive at the staggered embarkation time may be the biggest challenge. Agree, to many people impatient and will demand a refund for the time they are not able to get on since they are use to 11am etc. "Oh know are not able to board to 215!" i demand a full days refund. Cruising will not be the same moving forward for the given time. New protocols steps etc. Things have to change. 3 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Thank you for posting this. I would imagine that such measures will be industry wide as opposed to isolated to a specific cruise line. Additionally, these are likely among a set or measures that will/have been presented to the CDC and if accepted and adopted, will have to be followed by all ships in US ports. "Reduced capacity for onboard activities" is ambiguous. I'd like to know more about this since it would essentially apply to any space outside of the stateroom and leads one to question the quality of the cruise experience related to visiting the casino, spa, pool deck. etc. Agree, its a very broad outline, But good to see the temp readings at every port, tho in carribean being out in beach all day in sun might be an interesting test, along with will celebrity give the iced towels before you board anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_dream Posted June 1, 2020 #5 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The problem with staggered times is with people who are flying in the day of sailing. They cannot always dictate when their flights will arrive, and there is really no other place to go to wait. My biggest concern is not necessarily how to keep the ship clean (although of course that is very, very important). I want to know how they plan to handle things if someone is sick, especially if that someone is me or my cabin mate. There is little to no info on that leaking out anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WNcruiser Posted June 1, 2020 #6 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I think point 1 is a little extreme. Before embarking fine. But after every port and every time you enter a dining venue? That’s 3 or more times a day! You can still be positive with no fever (a symptomatic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted June 1, 2020 #7 Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, phoenix_dream said: My biggest concern is not necessarily how to keep the ship clean (although of course that is very, very important). I want to know how they plan to handle things if someone is sick, especially if that someone is me or my cabin mate. There is little to no info on that leaking out anywhere. Absolutely one of the most important things that has yet to be revealed! Hopefully it will come with all the other details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted June 1, 2020 #8 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, WNcruiser said: I think point 1 is a little extreme. Before embarking fine. But after every port and every time you enter a dining venue? That’s 3 or more times a day! You can still be positive with no fever (a symptomatic). Personally, I really don't care how often they scan my temp. You're right, it's pointless if you're an a-symptomatic carrier but if it helps weed out even one infected person, then I'm down for it. Our gym has implemented temp. scanning when we enter. I hardly even realize they are doing it. I bet that kind of screening will be incorporated as part of walking through the security metal scanner. We do that at every port anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted June 1, 2020 #9 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Two major points that haven't been addressed: the action plan should someone (crew or passenger) come down with COVID-19; and their intention with respect to a reduced passenger load. Some of the other points need fleshing out, but the lack of any information on these two issues leaves a lot to be desired. Edited June 1, 2020 by Fouremco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted June 1, 2020 #10 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, bikerunner said: along with will celebrity give the iced towels before you board anymore. Dang it! I love those iced towels!! Nothing says welcome back better than a cool towel. Edited June 1, 2020 by Georgia_Peaches 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osborne66 Posted June 1, 2020 #11 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bikerunner said: Cant post a link to the article since its behind a firewall/security but from Dow Jones Newswires. So here is the article but I change it to my own words so summarized somewhat Point 1> screen crew members' temperature constantly and check passengers' temperature before embarkation and disembarkation, upon returning to the ship from a port of call and before all meals in dining venues as well as activities in public areas. Point 2 > fog staterooms and public areas with hypochlorous acid, Staff members will serve passengers at buffet and beverage stations, Point 3 > Passenger will check in online and have staggered embarkation for social distancing, Point 4 > onboard activities will have reduced capacity. Point 5 > Rapid testing kits Point 6 > creating a new onboard role of public health officer, and crew members will receive new health and safety training, Point 7 > only visit safe and open ports of call. Point 8 > Air filters upgraded to medical grade Mostly common sense stuff it seems. This will be the minimum needed. Still spacing and ship capacity needs to be approached along with how to handle it. Then the rules will be different country to country - some very strict and some less so. I think the days of flying in on the day of the cruise are over. You will get a time slot to board and that will be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerunner Posted June 1, 2020 Author #12 Share Posted June 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, Fouremco said: Two major points that haven't been addressed: the action plan should someone (crew or passenger) come down with COVID-19; and their intention with respect to a reduced passenger load. Some of the other points need fleshing out, but the lack of any information on these two issues leaves a lot to be desired. I see it just as a starting point of what we can expect when cruising starts. The details still need to be addressed for sure. The action plans I think they are waiting to see what guidelines cdc and other agencies give. But ncl is the first to even show what will be the new normal soon. Still a lot more info needs to be addressed and will be I’m sure. Figure this is a very fluid document overall of rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted June 1, 2020 #13 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Staggered times are difficult to coordinate with flight arrival times times and hotel check out times, but not impossible to observe . Folks should be able to linger for coffee or snacks at airports or hotels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted June 1, 2020 #14 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, bikerunner said: I see it just as a starting point of what we can expect when cruising starts. The details still need to be addressed for sure. The action plans I think they are waiting to see what guidelines cdc and other agencies give. But ncl is the first to even show what will be the new normal soon. Still a lot more info needs to be addressed and will be I’m sure. Figure this is a very fluid document overall of rules. While I agree that things are fluid and details have to be dealt with in time, these are two major issues. Without them being addressed, we have no idea what the new normal might look like. IMO, there's not much sense in flagging that onboard activities will have reduced capacity when we have no idea of the extent to which the ship's passenger capacity will be reduced, if in fact it will be reduced at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Wildcat Posted June 1, 2020 #15 Share Posted June 1, 2020 A nice list that lacks a CDC approved action plan. An approved plan for each port to guarantee no more cruises looking for a debarkation port. And Worldwide borders open. On that one we have a long Way to go with ports closed as long as the end of 2022! Canadians cannot even visit several of their own provinces. Throw in COVID cases increasing again in many states and the possible effects of the demonstrations and rioting across North America . . . . Personally I think Trivia with just 8 people is a great idea. I would be able to win more often. And 4 seatings for dinner might help losing a few pounds. Would need to eat fast with a choice of 6pm, 7pm, 8pm and 9pm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snit13 Posted June 1, 2020 #16 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 hours ago, jelayne said: All to be expected no show stoppers. Getting people to arrive at the staggered embarkation time may be the biggest challenge. If they arrive early simply make them wait until their assigned times. A no brainer. The word will get out quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snit13 Posted June 1, 2020 #17 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Dang it! I love those iced towels!! Nothing says welcome back better than a cool towel. You haven't sailed to Galapagos where you are welcomed back with an adult beverage. That beats the towel, but I do like the cold towel and ice water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covepointcruiser Posted June 1, 2020 #18 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Perhaps people will learn to actually arrive at their embarkation times! Those who arrive early will need to wait outside In whatever weather is present. Even when you are in suites you get a boarding time. Now everyone arrives early and gets angry if there is a line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_dream Posted June 1, 2020 #19 Share Posted June 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Snit13 said: If they arrive early simply make them wait until their assigned times. A no brainer. The word will get out quickly. Make them wait where?? The whole idea behind this is to avoid people gathering in crowds. If a lot of people are waiting around there will be crowds. Even outside, there is not that much space, and the weather does not always cooperate. As to the person who suggested people could wait at the airport if need be, I question that idea. You need to go down and collect your luggage (and the vast majority of people cruising check their luggage so please no comments about carry-on as that is not practical for most folks). Down by the luggage area there is no place to just sit and have a cup of coffee or whatever. People who are still working do not always have the luxury of flying in a day early (although I certainly encourage them to do so for other reasons if possible!). People flying from overseas or from smaller airports in the US for example do not always have many choices in their flight times (speaking about US ports, but it could apply anywhere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaHunt Posted June 1, 2020 #20 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 hours ago, bikerunner said: Cant post a link to the article since its behind a firewall/security but from Dow Jones Newswires. Adding a link with no wall from cruiseradio (same info) 👍 https://cruiseradio.net/norwegian-cruise-line-reveals-details-about-return-to-cruising/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare garyl62 Posted June 2, 2020 #21 Share Posted June 2, 2020 A lot of comments about staggered boarding time and everyone is talking about "make them wait" as if the only issue will be people showing up early. What about people flying in day of and arrive after their assigned time? Departures from San Juan take place at 8:30 PM, many flights arrive between 1:00 and 4:00 PM. What if I land at 2:00 (over 6 hours prior to departure) but my embarkation time is 12:30? They can't just let me show up late and add to the #'s assigned to a later time. Even an "open boarding window" late in the day could result in overcrowding. I'm not saying it can't work or arguing against it, but flight schedules will be a factor and not just because people will come early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted June 2, 2020 #22 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SeaHunt said: Adding a link with no wall from cruiseradio (same info) 👍 https://cruiseradio.net/norwegian-cruise-line-reveals-details-about-return-to-cruising/ Many thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted June 2, 2020 #23 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Maybe the answer to avoid lines at embarkation is to start embarkation early. Maybe everyone must to be off the ship by 8:00 am and the new guests can start boarding by 8:30 am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted June 2, 2020 #24 Share Posted June 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said: Maybe the answer to avoid lines at embarkation is to start embarkation early. Maybe everyone must to be off the ship by 8:00 am and the new guests can start boarding by 8:30 am. When is the crew supposed to get the rooms, and the rest of the ship ready for the cruise? The lines at embarkation is because almost everybody wants to get on the ship as early as possible. Last September we got off at 8:45 and there were all kinds of people waiting for the embarkation to be opened up. Ship doesn’t leave until 5pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted June 2, 2020 #25 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Here's the actual NCL post - https://www.ncl.com/uk/en/why-cruise-norwegian/book-with-confidence?cid=DM_MKD_NA_PRO_NA_TAC_NA_PEACEOFMIND_NA_NA_NA#safety 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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