dalee21860 Posted June 20, 2020 #551 Share Posted June 20, 2020 4049 new cases in Florida today September 16 ha we'll be lucky to have any go out this year if things don't change soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted June 20, 2020 #552 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Not good: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted July 13, 2020 #553 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 12:30 AM, BirdTravels said: We went out to dinner a couple of times last week. Inside tables where 6' apart. But that didn't stop people walking between the tables to be brushing up against you or standing next to you as they were waiting to be seated or waiters serving the next table. And, obviously, no one at the tables had mask on. All enjoying themselves, having a bit too much to drink, talking loudly spreading their germs. It was a great meal! Easy to just turn and walk out 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3red7s Posted July 14, 2020 #554 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 6/4/2020 at 4:10 PM, firefly333 said: Well on the other hand some gambling ship I think out of palm beach area that goes to the bahamas is being allowed to start up again. And to the guy who is hoping rcl gives notice so he has time to do a lift and shift... when did rcl give much notice. Lift and shift apparently takes some time to do. At most TAs will be told ok thursday will be a announcement, though not what will be said. I wouldnt count on more than a day or 2 notice of next cancellations ... if they occur. I received an email today that said: Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line has not resumed operations just yet. So they don't seem to have a plan in place, or a date to resume 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted July 14, 2020 #555 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, 3red7s said: I received an email today that said: Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line has not resumed operations just yet. So they don't seem to have a plan in place, or a date to resume August 28, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted July 14, 2020 #556 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 4:26 PM, dalee21860 said: 4049 new cases in Florida today September 16 ha we'll be lucky to have any go out this year if things don't change soon Well, the number of daily new cases sure has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis#1 Posted July 14, 2020 #557 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Back to the title of this thread. If the Florida Covid-19 cases keep rising, Florida will be lucky to open up in August 2021. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted July 14, 2020 #558 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Well, the number of daily new cases sure has changed. Monday numbers are usually on the lower side. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted July 14, 2020 #559 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Back to the title of this thread. If the Florida Covid-19 cases keep rising, Florida will be lucky to open up in August 2021.Hopefully there will be a vaccine by then.Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fla gang Posted July 14, 2020 #560 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Governor is shutting down Miami again starting July 15! Not good for businesses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted July 14, 2020 #561 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, fla gang said: Governor is shutting down Miami again starting July 15! Not good for businesses. California is doing a moderate shut down. NY is registering visitors and making them quarantine. There is a $2000 fine if caught breaking quarantine. My son lifted and shifted his June Hawaii vacation to August. Now Hawaii has a 14 day quarantine again. Thankfully he was able to get a refund from Air BnB. In terms of Cruising it's not happening this year. Florida needs to change their behavior. The mayor of Miami is the only one taking action that I have heard of. Are any other counties making changes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted July 14, 2020 #562 Share Posted July 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said: California is doing a moderate shut down. NY is registering visitors and making them quarantine. There is a $2000 fine if caught breaking quarantine. My son lifted and shifted his June Hawaii vacation to August. Now Hawaii has a 14 day quarantine again. Thankfully he was able to get a refund from Air BnB. In terms of Cruising it's not happening this year. Florida needs to change their behavior. The mayor of Miami is the only one taking action that I have heard of. Are any other counties making changes? Lots of municipalities have mask ordinances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted July 14, 2020 #563 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, CSHS1979 said: Lots of municipalities have mask ordinances Thank you. It's a start and good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 14, 2020 #564 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Contrary to the media hysteria, Florida still has plenty of Hospital beds and ICU beds. There is no cure or vaccine. It’s never been about the number of cases, it’s been about controlling the cases enough so that the healthcare system is not overrun. Hasn’t happened. I watched media today saying 48 hospitals had no ICU beds. There are many Counties in our State that have no ICU beds available ever. There continues to be an issue with infection of those residing in long term care and elderly facilities. The NBA bubble at Disney now has a positive case. Apparently, one of the players snuck out for food. Wonder how many that player will infect in the bubble? Here is the hospital data. Read for yourself. https://bi.ahca.myflorida.com/t/ABICC/views/Public/ICUBedsCounty?%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&%3Aembed=y Edited July 14, 2020 by Milwaukee Eight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 14, 2020 #565 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Here is the list of 48 hospitals reporting zero available ICU beds. Many of these have 10 beds or less during good times. Florida has 325 registered hospitals. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/48-florida-hospitals-at-icu-capacity.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted July 14, 2020 #566 Share Posted July 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Contrary to the media hysteria, Florida still has plenty of Hospital beds and ICU beds. There is no cure or vaccine. It’s never been about the number of cases, it’s been about controlling the cases enough so that the healthcare system is not overrun. Hasn’t happened. I watched media today saying 48 hospitals had no ICU beds. There are many Counties in our State that have no ICU beds available ever. There continues to be an issue with infection of those residing in long term care and elderly facilities. The NBA bubble at Disney now has a positive case. Apparently, one of the players snuck out for food. Wonder how many that player will infect in the bubble? Here is the hospital data. Read for yourself. https://bi.ahca.myflorida.com/t/ABICC/views/Public/ICUBedsCounty?%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&%3Aembed=y Bottom line is that the CDC isn't going to allow cruising until this is under control. All they see is the possibility of the number of hospital beds and morgues that may or may not be filled as well as if the infection can't be controlled on land how will it be controlled at sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted July 14, 2020 #567 Share Posted July 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: The NBA bubble at Disney now has a positive case. Apparently, one of the players snuck out for food. Wonder how many that player will infect in the bubble? Clearly the should have put the NBA bubble on cruise ships instead of Disney. Much harder to sneak out that way. Plus, as you’ll know if you’ve ever played basketball on a cruise, the waives would make the game a lot more interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 14, 2020 #568 Share Posted July 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said: Bottom line is that the CDC isn't going to allow cruising until this is under control. All they see is the possibility of the number of hospital beds and morgues that may or may not be filled as well as if the infection can't be controlled on land how will it be controlled at sea. Your absolutely correct. What is “under control “? You can’t keep people in lockdown and then release them to a cruise ship. The virus will still be present. Under control to me is a Vaccine or cure. The elderly, I guess I am one too, are at most risk. Lots of elderly folks on cruises. It really has nothing to do what each State does as long as the healthcare system is not overrun. Unfortunately, some data suggests that the antibodies may only last for a limited time and reinfection might be possible. M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted July 14, 2020 #569 Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Your absolutely correct. What is “under control “? You can’t keep people in lockdown and then release them to a cruise ship. The virus will still be present. Under control to me is a Vaccine or cure. The elderly, I guess I am one too, are at most risk. Lots of elderly folks on cruises. It really has nothing to do what each State does as long as the healthcare system is not overrun. Unfortunately, some data suggests that the antibodies may only last for a limited time and reinfection might be possible. M8 This is one statement that I would welcome fake news or hoax reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted July 14, 2020 #570 Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said: This is one statement that I would welcome fake news or hoax reply. There's also the possibility that having the virus might cause long-term damage. 🙁 Still a lot of unknowns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMunits Posted July 14, 2020 #571 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) What non-government health insurance will offer Covid-19 coverage to tourists who knowingly travel to a locale (i.e. Florida) that is not Covid-19-free? Alternatively insurance may become available if there's a proven immunization method for Covid-19. Until then is there a sufficient number of people who would be willing to go on a cruise knowing that they have no health coverage? Are there any countries who will offer such coverage until Florida is Covid-free or until there's a sure way to prevent infection? I know that at the moment in Ontario, Canada it is impossible to buy such travel insurance coverage to anywhere until government advisories are fully lifted. The situation with opening dates is not about local governments declaring "open for business" or cruise companies willing to sail. It is about travelers having a peace of mind that should they get sick they will be taken care of by their insurance company or the government. Edited July 14, 2020 by PatMunits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandebeach Posted July 14, 2020 #572 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Watching Cramer on Squawk on the Street (Business/financial discussion). Talked about cruise line stocks and said analysts predict cruise lines will not be able to restart until second quarter 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted July 14, 2020 #573 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Cases continue to increase for the states that opened up indoor dining and drinking. Imo that seems to be one of the main trends. Yes cases in nursing homes will continue to happen due to workers bringing into the facilities they work. Fortunately the younger generation does not always need ICU care but many still end up in hospital just not the ICU beds. The long term effects are still unknown. One of my customers who is 20 something had covid early march and she now has severe asthma issues that she didnt have before contracting the virus. Imo We need a therapeutic that truly works before cruising can restart. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 14, 2020 #574 Share Posted July 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, PatMunits said: What non-government health insurance will offer Covid-19 coverage to tourists who knowingly travel to a locale (i.e. Florida) that is not Covid-19-free? Alternatively insurance may become available if there's a proven immunization method for Covid-19. Until then is there a sufficient number of people who would be willing to go on a cruise knowing that they have no health coverage? Are there any countries who will offer such coverage until Florida is Covid-free or until there's a sure way to prevent infection? I know that at the moment in Ontario, Canada it is impossible to buy such travel insurance coverage to anywhere until government advisories are fully lifted. The situation with opening dates is not about local governments declaring "open for business" or cruise companies willing to sail. It is about travelers having a peace of mind that should they get sick they will be taken care of by their insurance company or the government. Trying to understand. What State or area is COVID19 free? What about when one travels to get to a cruise? M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 14, 2020 #575 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, sandebeach said: Watching Cramer on Squawk on the Street (Business/financial discussion). Talked about cruise line stocks and said analysts predict cruise lines will not be able to restart until second quarter 2021. In my mind, could be longer. M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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