How Will RCL Handle the EU Ban Against the US?

[hftmrock]

2 minutes ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

So what do all these have in common? Opening creates spikes. As I stated earlier, it isn't going away. Spikes are going to be with us until a vaccine is developed. We just need to learn how to manage to live our lives and open up as well. It's trying. It's hard. But it's also necessary. We just have to learn as we go and be smart about it. 

not if done right MANY MANY countries have FIRST gotten the curve down and then managed the outbreaks. NY has NOT gotten spikes. If you followed the CDC and government guidelines , you could manage the spikes with contact tracing but not if its still out of hand

 

what they have in common is that they didnt follow the guidelines

 

Edited July 17, 2020 by hftmrock

[Goodtime Cruizin]

I'm not sold on anything from NY.  NY has had the largest spike in thw world. It's too early to say it won't re-occur. 

[Wine-O]

2 minutes ago, hftmrock said:

not if done right MANY MANY countries have FIRST gotten the curve down and then managed the outbreaks. NY has NOT gotten spikes. If you followed the CDC and government guidelines , you could manage the spikes with contact tracing but not if its still out of hand

 

what they have in common is that they didnt follow the guidelines

 

I wouldn't use NY as a model.  Their economy is in the toilet, businesses will never come back, looting and rioting (yeah, those people don't spread anything), yada, yada, yada.  🍷

[Traveldazed]

29 minutes ago, Wine-O said:

Maybe everyone needs to read the New England Journal of Medicine’s report where they say that masks outside of the medical profession absolutely do not help lessen the spread. But hey, they’re not experts either, are they?  🍷

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article

From article: We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)¹ as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. 

[Milwaukee Eight]

Entertaining 😇

[Goodtime Cruizin]

22 minutes ago, Missusdubbya said:

 

It doesn’t matter if you think that COVID “will go away” by the US election and that you believe spreading of a virus is politically and financially motivated - US citizens are not permitted to enter the EU.
 

This is because the leaders of the EU believe that US citizens pose an unacceptable health risk to EU citizens due to the quite obvious rapid unchecked spread of COVID through the US. 
 

I am saddened at the plight of the US. 

 

I wish this could be done straight up for Texas too. 😜 

[ssb]

Unfortunately many are bailing  TA Jewel  2020 Rome to Galveston for Lift Shift . No one now thinks Jewel will sail from Rome . Our group and many others are LS for Odyssey TA 2021 . 

Edited July 17, 2020 by ssb

[sgmn]

3 hours ago, NancyIL said:

 

Country like Sweden - which continued with life (mostly) as usual. I think countries (and states) that locked down early will catch-up later. Time will tell.

Sweden still followed social distance guidelines, reduced travel, hand washing etc.  They didn't lockdown but were responsible. 

[Dennis#1]

1 minute ago, sgmn said:

Sweden still followed social distance guidelines, reduced travel, hand washing etc.  They didn't lockdown but were responsible. 

Sweden did it the right way.

[livingonthebeach]

4 minutes ago, Dennis#1 said:

Sweden did it the right way.

 

They did some things right, some things okay and some things wrong..like almost every country.  This article has a well balanced view:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/how-sweden-fought-coronavirus-and-what-went-wrong.html

[Dennis#1]

40 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

They did some things right, some things okay and some things wrong..like almost every country.  This article has a well balanced view:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/how-sweden-fought-coronavirus-and-what-went-wrong.html

Very informative article.  Thanks for posting.

[pstone1]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Eastbound in November 😬

 

Yep, my bad!  We have air to Rome, sailing from Civitavecchia!  Not even paying attention - we expect to go nowhere!  😀

[Germancruiser]

10 hours ago, A&L_Ont said:

@Germancruiser

 

When are you launching your live review, what will you call it...

 

Germancruiser Goes Live - Das ist sehr Gut.

Germancruiser Goes Live - Schnitzel, Spätzle und Bier leben aus der Nordsee.

 

LOL. I see you know us ( Germans) quite well. Nice advice- maybe I stick to a titel in English-like " Crusing with a mask"! Or something the like!

 

Germany opend at the end of May- Mask become mandatory- we are stayed open ever since- the cases went down- not up- except for Spike in a meet packing facility- which - thank god, could be stopped from spreading further!

So maybe- just maybe- if the Flordians would have worn masks... I don´t know- just a thought!

[John&LaLa]

40 minutes ago, pstone1 said:

 

Yep, my bad!  We have air to Rome, sailing from Civitavecchia!  Not even paying attention - we expect to go nowhere!  😀

 

I'd give mine 2-1 odds over yours😉

[John&LaLa]

15 minutes ago, Germancruiser said:

LOL. I see you know us ( Germans) quite well. Nice advice- maybe I stick to a titel in English-like " Crusing with a mask"! Or something the like!

 

Germany opend at the end of May- Mask become mandatory- we are stayed open ever since- the cases went down- not up- except for Spike in a meet packing facility- which - thank god, could be stopped from spreading further!

So maybe- just maybe- if the Flordians would have worn masks... I don´t know- just a thought!

 

I wore a mask

[time4u2go]

2 hours ago, Dennis#1 said:

Sweden did it the right way.

Lol. 

[A&L_Ont]

30 minutes ago, Germancruiser said:

LOL. I see you know us ( Germans) quite well. Nice advice- maybe I stick to a titel in English-like " Crusing with a mask"! Or something the like!

If you have German food in the MDR please post food porn photos. Being part German the photos will be rewarding.🙂

[Germancruiser]

39 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

If you have German food in the MDR please post food porn photos. Being part German the photos will be rewarding.🙂

.. part German - I thought as much. LOL! I am quite sure they have a few German favorites on hand. Saussages, Sauerkraut.... LOL- we are not called " krauts" for nothing! Anyway- a good prepared Wiener Schnitzel ( so called it has to be veal ) - or " Like Wiener Schnitzel"  ( can be any other meat) is something I really love! I am from very down south- swabian- as you may call it- so " Spätzle" are also not to be missed!

I just got my letter informing me that all online stuff has been recieved and I am allowed to board- my region is very very low in activ cases- so no surprise there. In fact there is only one area in German where the cases are a bit higher, due to the meet packing scandal from a few weeks ago.

Also they mentioned that ones temperature is taken daily and will be monitored- how they will do that remains to be seen.

 

[livingonthebeach]

First Cruise to Nowhere out of Malta announced.  Only for Maltese residents.   We couldn't get to Malta anyway.  😩

 

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/this-ship-planning-a-cruise-to-nowhere.805485

[zekekelso]

>> First Cruise to Nowhere out of Malta announced.  Only for Maltese residents.

 

so a whole ship full of Maltese 

[LXA350]

22 hours ago, Dennis#1 said:

Sweden did it the right way.

 

Sweden did not do it the right way,  they continue to have relatively high numbers of new infections and their death rate also remains high. Hence the longer you follow their way of handling it the more it shows it is wrong.

21 hours ago, Germancruiser said:

LOL. I see you know us ( Germans) quite well. Nice advice- maybe I stick to a titel in English-like " Crusing with a mask"! Or something the like!

 

Germany opend at the end of May- Mask become mandatory- we are stayed open ever since- the cases went down- not up- except for Spike in a meet packing facility- which - thank god, could be stopped from spreading further!

So maybe- just maybe- if the Flordians would have worn masks... I don´t know- just a thought!

 

It shows more and more that if everyone is wearing a mask in places where distancing cannot be kept it is the most effective way. Yes, it's annoying at times to wear the mask, but if this really helps to let us live a half ways normal life during the pandemic it it so worth it. Hence I hope that this message will finally also get to the US as only like this you will get things back under control and have the number of new cases go down.

[MADflyer]

The Spanish King had a great statement to the Spanish people on Thursday at a ceremony to commemorate those that have died and the essential workers. 

 

"...in these months, our society has provided a lesson of immense courage. Spain has shown its best spirit. With the passing of time, we will remember that we were an example of civic responsibility, maturity, resistance and commitment to others.”

 

The statement gives insight to how Spain will handle the 'New Normal' and the relationship they will have with the cruise lines. 

 

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-07-16/spain-holds-tribute-to-victims-of-covid-19-pandemic.html

[Coralc]

On 7/17/2020 at 11:11 AM, hftmrock said:

California did NOT follow the CDC and government guidelines on when to open which included 14 consecutive days of downward movement in cases and other qualifications

 

they opened too soon

 

 

 

Actually...in the SF Bay Area we have NEVER opened at all. We are still in phase 1, early phase 2. Indoor retail, but no haircuts or nail salons, no indoor dining, no gyms, no movie theaters or gatherings. Pretty much no nothing, and mandatory masks. And yet our county numbers are still surging and we are on the state watch list. 

[John&LaLa]

55 minutes ago, Coralc said:

 

Actually...in the SF Bay Area we have NEVER opened at all. We are still in phase 1, early phase 2. Indoor retail, but no haircuts or nail salons, no indoor dining, no gyms, no movie theaters or gatherings. Pretty much no nothing, and mandatory masks. And yet our county numbers are still surging and we are on the state watch list. 

 

I have to wear a mask now with my massage therapist.  Originally it was just her. 

 

It's going to be weird to be wearing nothing but a mask. 🤣🤣

[Ashland]

1 hour ago, Coralc said:

 

Actually...in the SF Bay Area we have NEVER opened at all. We are still in phase 1, early phase 2. Indoor retail, but no haircuts or nail salons, no indoor dining, no gyms, no movie theaters or gatherings. Pretty much no nothing, and mandatory masks. And yet our county numbers are still surging and we are on the state watch list. 

We're..... Ventura County on that list too