Casino Comp Chick Posted January 18, 2021 #1451 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, molly361 said: That's great. My 90 year old mother lives in Westchester and has no idea when she can get one Yeah I know it is super hard to get an appointment. My uncle in Long Island was told April...he didn’t make the appointment and when he called back he was told July. That is why I am thankful I was able to get it through my job. I hope your mom gets an appointment soon. FYI outside of the normal pain in the arm neither of us had any kind of side effects, I hope it is the same for your mother. My boss has been achey and “feeling off” since the vaccination. Edited January 18, 2021 by Casino Comp Chick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMAN Posted January 18, 2021 #1452 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I get my second shot this morning. Will be so happy to have this behind me. Anyway, did the rapid test last week, no sign of the antibody. Guess they were right when they said you need both injections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 18, 2021 #1453 Share Posted January 18, 2021 44 minutes ago, TYMAN said: I get my second shot this morning. Will be so happy to have this behind me. Anyway, did the rapid test last week, no sign of the antibody. Guess they were right when they said you need both injections. The rapid tests don't screen for antibody they screen for antigen. Your negative test ment you were not showing evidence of infection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted January 18, 2021 #1454 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, TYMAN said: I get my second shot this morning. Will be so happy to have this behind me. Anyway, did the rapid test last week, no sign of the antibody. Guess they were right when they said you need both injections. Ocean Boy is correct. The rapid test and the PCR test are just a snapshot in time. At that moment you did not have a covid infection. There is a separate antibody test that will let you know if you have the antibodies either from a past infection or vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted January 18, 2021 #1455 Share Posted January 18, 2021 16 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Any reasons why flu season was mild this year? Masking and social distancing maybe Which is precisely why masks will be worn on cruise ships forever after this. Not on land perhaps but on cruise ships. They won't want to get sued. Mark my words. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMAN Posted January 18, 2021 #1456 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said: The rapid tests don't screen for antibody they screen for antigen. Your negative test ment you were not showing evidence of infection. Let me see if I can find the tests that was given to us at the hospital. The Nurse actually stated it would test for the antibody, and it actually showed up that way for a few of the nurses that were tested at the same time. It showed three different results......red stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 18, 2021 #1457 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Casino Comp Chick said: I have already had shot #1, I get my 2nd one in 3 weeks. I am thankful I was able to get it through my job otherwise I would be at the bottom of the waiting list. When they announced the over 75’s, it took me 3 days of stalking the NYC COVID website to get my mother an appointment so she is 4 days behind me on her 2nd shot appointment but if it becomes a cruise line requirement we will both be ready. Will you cruise is smoking indoors is banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBE4 Posted January 18, 2021 #1458 Share Posted January 18, 2021 16 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Any reasons why flu season was mild this year? Masking and social distancing maybe I pick social distance. With work from home and remote learning ,the usual "flu incubators" such as office buildings and schools are sitting empty or at reduced capacity. When one person gets sick in office complex, it seems everyone get sick over the next several weeks. Add to that reduced travel, less dense event such as concerts, sporting events, cruises, etc. I got a flu shot for he first time in my life at my doctor's office urging. The reason being that if I developed "flu-like" symptoms, it would be easier to diagnosis me. I wonder how many others got flu shots for the first time, hence the mild flu season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 18, 2021 #1459 Share Posted January 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, Keksie said: Ocean Boy is correct. The rapid test and the PCR test are just a snapshot in time. At that moment you did not have a covid infection. There is a separate antibody test that will let you know if you have the antibodies either from a past infection or vaccination. Is that a blood test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 18, 2021 #1460 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Is that a blood test The antibody test is a blood test. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted January 18, 2021 #1461 Share Posted January 18, 2021 If the cruise lines in general decide that they want their passengers on their early starting-back-up sailings, then for many families, their cruise will not take place. Children will likely not be vaccinated for at least 12 months, especially now that there appears to be an increase in allergic reactions to the Moderna vaccine. In addition, I live in NY in the Hudson Valley, the surrounding counties along with my own have been out of vaccine since last week and have been told that we will be getting even less this coming week- 225,000 for 20 million people. We are currently in Phase 1a & 1b and appointments for those phases are filled up for the next four months and for six months in other areas. The allocation and distribution have been a disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan25 Posted January 18, 2021 #1462 Share Posted January 18, 2021 22 hours ago, ace2542 said: I don't think they would but I think it is also understood or assumed that most people onboard have probably had it. I don’t remember the statistics, but that may be a stretch. Count me among those who have never received a flu shot nor experienced flu symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted January 18, 2021 #1463 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Is that a blood test If it is will you let the cruiseline stick a needle in you? I for one would probably not. That is going too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 18, 2021 #1464 Share Posted January 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, ace2542 said: If it is will you let the cruiseline stick a needle in you? I for one would probably not. That is going too far. They would never do an antibody test. First of all it is not a fast turn around test. Secondly, they are not going to care if you have antibodies. All they want to know is that you are not testing positive for the virus. Thirdly, how long would it take to do a venapuncture on 6000 arriving guests? No such thing is going to occur. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted January 18, 2021 #1465 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, ace2542 said: Which is precisely why masks will be worn on cruise ships forever after this. Not on land perhaps but on cruise ships. They won't want to get sued. Mark my words. No need to mark your words. It won’t happen as in forever. Maybe in the beginning for a while, but not forever. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 18, 2021 #1466 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, ReneeFLL said: No need to mark your words. It won’t happen as in forever. Maybe in the beginning for a while, but not forever. But if he keeps saying it long enough won't that make it come true?😉 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted January 18, 2021 #1467 Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said: No need to mark your words. It won’t happen as in forever. Maybe in the beginning for a while, but not forever. How else will they keep from being sued by people for getting Covid or even Flu for that matter on a cruise ship?. I don't know how it works in America but in UK we have slimey ambulance chasers ringing up people asking if they got sick on an all inclusive holiday like these resorts in Spain and Egypt and putting claims in for them. Not for millions only for a few thousand maybe. But they still do it. Ok might be harder to prove with Covid but I am sure they will try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted January 18, 2021 #1468 Share Posted January 18, 2021 At some point it will come down to customers. If they can fill the ships with mask wearing, restricted excursion customers then that will continue. If at some point people will be happier to spend their money on land where there are not the same restrictions then things will change. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger88 Posted January 18, 2021 #1469 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I have never had a single vaccine in my life, just like my family and we see no reason of having this vaccine either. Its just another type of flue which is mutating every year. You do a vaccine now, then there is another type of virus and so on.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted January 18, 2021 #1470 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roger88 said: I have never had a single vaccine in my life, just like my family and we see no reason of having this vaccine either. Its just another type of flue which is mutating every year. You do a vaccine now, then there is another type of virus and so on.. Hopefully the cruise lines will require a vaccine so that those who don't understand how dangerous they are to other humans won't be sailing with us. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted January 18, 2021 #1471 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) ^^^^^^^^ +1. One year into this mess and the naysayers are still unconvinced. BTW, nine 747-400s worth of passengers died yesterday from a "flue"-like illness. 🙄 mac_tlc Edited January 18, 2021 by mac_tlc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 18, 2021 #1472 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ace2542 said: If it is will you let the cruiseline stick a needle in you? I for one would probably not. That is going too far. Probably get it ahead of time if necessary Edited January 18, 2021 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted January 18, 2021 #1473 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Probably get it ahead of time, but if it's a finger *****, go for it. So my question. What happens to the sample they take beyond being tested for antibody?. Will they test for other medical conditions if they can? Diabetes or STD's or who knows what?. Does it get passed to I don't know your FBI and added into your CODIS database that they speak of on CSI? Or in UK does it get put into our DNA database? If so I would like to be informed of it, consent to it and not have it done behind my back. Edited January 18, 2021 by ace2542 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 18, 2021 #1474 Share Posted January 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, ace2542 said: So my question. What happens to the sample they take beyond being tested for antibody?. Will they test for other medical conditions if they can? Diabetes or STD's or who knows what?. Does it get passed to I don't know your FBI and added into your CODIS database that they speak of on CSI? Or in UK does it get put into our DNA database? If so I would like to be informed of it, consent to it and not have it done behind my back. I lead a clean life, don't care. But truthfully, I just don't over think things 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted January 18, 2021 #1475 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 hours ago, HBE4 said: I pick social distance. With work from home and remote learning ,the usual "flu incubators" such as office buildings and schools are sitting empty or at reduced capacity. When one person gets sick in office complex, it seems everyone get sick over the next several weeks. Add to that reduced travel, less dense event such as concerts, sporting events, cruises, etc. I got a flu shot for he first time in my life at my doctor's office urging. The reason being that if I developed "flu-like" symptoms, it would be easier to diagnosis me. I wonder how many others got flu shots for the first time, hence the mild flu season. I have little doubt that the Covid precautions have collectively made a big dent in the cold/flu season. That being said, there is an argument that the herd benefits from exposure to viruses. How many times throughout history have foreigners brought disease to previously isolated populations with devastating consequences. (When Martians invade Earth, Covid will be our best defense. 😉) In any event, I'm probably going to continue wearing a mask during cold/flu season indefinitely just as my hand washing routine permanently changed after watching the "Wash Your Hands" video. Thank you Royal Caribbean for making frequent hand washing second nature to me long before this mess began. I can't wait to wash my hands on board your ships again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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