coastcat Posted March 13, 2022 #2601 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BenCoudon said: Concerning the Haven restaurant, I had the same thought. The number of Haven suites have been increased by over 50%. Although I never had problems to get a table at the Haven Restaurant, with more people in the Haven, it might get crowded. Obviously, they rely on the outdoor space to avoid the problem. That could very well solve the problem on cruises with tropical weather. But for cruises in Northern Europe, including Greenland and Iceland, far to be sure that the outdoor restaurant will be an option. Many ships have this outdoor dining area. On Alaska sailings, it was very rare to see people eating outside, even in specialty restaurants. Even on my last Panama Canal cruise, although it was hot enough to eat outside, the strong winds brought everyone inside. The outdoor Haven restaurant was only used a few times for breakfast I wonder if reservations will be required or strongly recommended for the Haven restaurant? It's not a tiny space but it doesn't look large enough (at least not on the deck plans) to accommodate the increased Haven capacity. Based on NCL's promo videos, the outdoor dining & bar areas are fully covered and are exposed on two sides. Much of the seating looks much further under cover than the outdoor restaurant seating on The Waterfront. Presumably the space has overhead heaters similar to the arrangement for the outdoor buffet seating on BA+ ships. Well, we'll see how it works when the first Haven passengers report back. I'm just eager to see what the new Studio area will look like. The artist renderings show a decor that is Observation Lounge-ish. 194 days to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drews_Cruise Posted March 14, 2022 #2602 Share Posted March 14, 2022 20 hours ago, coastcat said: I wonder if reservations will be required or strongly recommended for the Haven restaurant? It's not a tiny space but it doesn't look large enough (at least not on the deck plans) to accommodate the increased Haven capacity. Based on NCL's promo videos, the outdoor dining & bar areas are fully covered and are exposed on two sides. Much of the seating looks much further under cover than the outdoor restaurant seating on The Waterfront. Presumably the space has overhead heaters similar to the arrangement for the outdoor buffet seating on BA+ ships. Well, we'll see how it works when the first Haven passengers report back. I'm just eager to see what the new Studio area will look like. The artist renderings show a decor that is Observation Lounge-ish. 194 days to go... If know one else does, I will certainly report back on the Haven Restaurant size as I'm on inaugural cruise. When it gets closer, I will start itemizing questions people have and try to answer as many as possible. I'm sure there will be others doing the same. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kessdarln Posted March 14, 2022 #2603 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 11:19 AM, BenCoudon said: My bet is that the thermal suite will be on deck 15, under the fitness centre. The lounge chairs of the thermal suite will be facing the ocean. I think it is the first time they have the spa on 2 levels. (Or may be not. I remember having seen a big staircase near the reception on the Star) Reception, the salon and some treatement rooms will be on deck 16 with more treatement rooms and the thermal suite on deck 15 The spa balcony rooms are on deck 16. I haven't seen any other spa categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg013 Posted March 17, 2022 #2604 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Katy Perry named Godmother of the PR1MA. https://www.nclhltd.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/476/global-pop-superstar-katy-perry-named-godmother-of Edited March 17, 2022 by peg013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted March 17, 2022 #2605 Share Posted March 17, 2022 the prima now needs a wrecking ball 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted March 17, 2022 Author #2606 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Prima received her lifeboats, interesting to see the white and yellow. Reminds me of the Disney story who had to request using a different color than regular for their lifeboats. Lots of render pics were released with the F&B release last week, also a fair amount of interior photos shot by those who attended the Prima tour. Besides rights, credits I am not sure how sane it would be for the thread to repost/share them here. I had to catch up a bit after my last week's cruise, which was a true wonderful experience. Where we felt a bit unpleasant standing in indoor crowds at our airport before take off and the long flight next to strangers, the daily live in Florida precruise and the relaxed cruise on Allure (one of the first mask free ones) took that away very quickly and almost made you forgot we just near rounded up a global pandemic. Pax capacity is upped rapidly with 4200 on ours, 5200 this week so I hope and wish everyone, here in this thread and CC, will be enjoying cruising as it was very soon. I too doubted if I would ever be on a ship with how things were going. So enjoy that sea breeze and life the moment if it finally gets there, I know I did. Whether it's now or on Prima if that's the first one up next. Safe and happy sailings everyone! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjacobs11 Posted March 17, 2022 #2607 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/13/2022 at 6:37 AM, PhillyTravelBug said: I have not really checked out the deck plans until now. I am loving this and cannot wait to sail. We have a spa balcony room booked for our Iceland/Norway cruise next summer. Looks like a great location. We booked a spa balcony on Viva for a 9-day next September. Seemed the most reasonably priced cabin without getting into the silly pricing of suites/haven. PLUS access to the spa, which Haven doesn't have. "Only" 536 days to go! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted March 17, 2022 #2608 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I notice on the picture that most of the protecting shields for the balcony ramps have been removed and I assume that they did the cleaning. Progressing well For me, 180 days to go before I board the Prima in Copenhagen. I just want to point out one line that was included in the NCLH press release announcing the Christening of the Prima "Most recently, NCL unveiled its remaining culinary and beverage offerings available on Norwegian Prima and Viva, including the Brand's first sustainably-focused lounge, The Metropolitan and its ultra-upscale Mediterranean seafood specialty restaurant Palomar." It means that no more bars and restaurant venues are yet to be announced. I just find that the number of bars is way below the average number of bars we have on other ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Greenpea2 Posted March 17, 2022 #2609 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 7:04 PM, deliver42 said: I was looking to book the Prima for sometime in 2023 and to my surprise, they are only offering cruises for Nov and Dec this year, nothing further. Every other ship from Florida is available. We are booked for next March. Might be a filter problem? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippeedee Posted March 17, 2022 #2610 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, shof515 said: the prima now needs a wrecking ball Is Miley Cyrus coming along too? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted March 17, 2022 #2611 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I was surprised also at the lack of booking dates on the Prima. Everything else is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVACruiser43 Posted March 17, 2022 #2612 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, deliver42 said: I was surprised also at the lack of booking dates on the Prima. Everything else is open. I have cruises all year for 2023 showing for Prima. Did you select Prima with no other filters? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVACruiser43 Posted March 17, 2022 #2613 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 hours ago, shof515 said: the prima now needs a wrecking ball You don't like Katie? At least it wasn't Lea Ann Rhimes. Can''t stand her songs. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisercl Posted March 17, 2022 #2614 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 hours ago, peg013 said: Katy Perry named Godmother of the PR1MA. https://www.nclhltd.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/476/global-pop-superstar-katy-perry-named-godmother-of Not a Katy fan.....but she doesn't affect my cruising! 😊 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drews_Cruise Posted March 18, 2022 #2615 Share Posted March 18, 2022 12 hours ago, peg013 said: Katy Perry named Godmother of the PR1MA. https://www.nclhltd.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/476/global-pop-superstar-katy-perry-named-godmother-of Surprising that the ship isn’t being christened until after our inaugural cruise. We get off and Katy gets on..lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted March 18, 2022 #2616 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Drews_Cruise said: Surprising that the ship isn’t being christened until after our inaugural cruise. We get off and Katy gets on..lol That isn’t unusual. I have been on a few first sailings and all of them have been before the christening. For example, transatlantics before the christening in the US. I think this is where some of the confusion comes in as to what is the “inaugural” sailing. I never refer to our cruise on the Prima as the inaugural as it was always unlikely that it would be that officially. I suspect that, as usual, there will be disappointed people onboard in August when NCL don’t make a fuss on our cruise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted March 18, 2022 #2617 Share Posted March 18, 2022 That explains why the cruise where Katy gets on has never been published on the website. This is a private cruise mostlikly for NCL employees, media or travel and trade partners I have never seen details of the cruise except we know that it leaves Reykjavik to arrive Amsterdam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted March 18, 2022 #2618 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Browsing the NCLH website Here's what I found 2022 1) Norwegian Prima: ~3,215 Berths (3rd quarter) 2023 2) Norwegian Viva: ~3,215 Berths (2nd quarter) 2024 3) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (4th quarter) 2025 4) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (3rd quarter) 2026 5) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (3rd quarter) 2027 6) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (2nd quarter) It tells us roughly when those ships will be released About 18 months between Viva and Leonardo #3 About 9 months between Leonardo #3 and #4 About 1 year between Leonerdo #4 and #5 And 9 months for the last one Also, may be some of you knew about this but I wasn't aware: Starting with Leonardo 3, the number of passengers on the last 4 ships increases from 3215 to 3550 Is it due to smaller cabins or a bigger ship? Also, on the website, they identify the last 4 ships as "Prima Plus" class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted March 18, 2022 #2619 Share Posted March 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: Browsing the NCLH website Here's what I found 2022 1) Norwegian Prima: ~3,215 Berths (3rd quarter) 2023 2) Norwegian Viva: ~3,215 Berths (2nd quarter) 2024 3) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (4th quarter) 2025 4) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (3rd quarter) 2026 5) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (3rd quarter) 2027 6) Prima Plus Class: ~3,550 Berths (2nd quarter) It tells us roughly when those ships will be released About 18 months between Viva and Leonardo #3 About 9 months between Leonardo #3 and #4 About 1 year between Leonerdo #4 and #5 And 9 months for the last one Also, may be some of you knew about this but I wasn't aware: Starting with Leonardo 3, the number of passengers on the last 4 ships increases from 3215 to 3550 Is it due to smaller cabins or a bigger ship? Also, on the website, they identify the last 4 ships as "Prima Plus" class. My guess would be a slightly longer ship, rather than smaller cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaboudjan Posted March 18, 2022 #2620 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, KeithJenner said: My guess would be a slightly longer ship, rather than smaller cabins. Per an earlier post they increase from 142,500 GT to 156,300 GT. I would think they'd do that by increasing the length. Edited March 18, 2022 by Karaboudjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted March 18, 2022 #2621 Share Posted March 18, 2022 They need more space for the next biggest race track at sea 😉 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted March 18, 2022 #2622 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Karaboudjan said: Per an earlier post they increase from 142,500 GT to 156,300 GT. I would think they'd do that by increasing the length. I know nothing about ships architecture. What about the same length but adding an extra deck for cabins. Would be 21 instead of 20. Is that something possible or it would throw out the balance of the ship? I'm asking the question because 335 additional guests means roughly 160 to 165 additional cabins. And if you look at deck 12 of the Prima, that deck has about 165 cabins. Making the ship longer may go against what they said when the announced the prima: Smaller ship that could go so smaller ports that are unable to accept large ships. But may be my idea is not feasible due to construction rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted March 18, 2022 #2623 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: I know nothing about ships architecture. What about the same length but adding an extra deck for cabins. Would be 21 instead of 20. Is that something possible or it would throw out the balance of the ship? I'm asking the question because 335 additional guests means roughly 160 to 165 additional cabins. And if you look at deck 12 of the Prima, that deck has about 165 cabins. Making the ship longer may go against what they said when the announced the prima: Smaller ship that could go so smaller ports that are unable to accept large ships. But may be my idea is not feasible due to construction rules They did that in the changeover from the Breakaway to the Breakaway Plus class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaboudjan Posted March 18, 2022 #2624 Share Posted March 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: I know nothing about ships architecture. What about the same length but adding an extra deck for cabins. Would be 21 instead of 20. Is that something possible or it would throw out the balance of the ship? I'm asking the question because 335 additional guests means roughly 160 to 165 additional cabins. And if you look at deck 12 of the Prima, that deck has about 165 cabins. Making the ship longer may go against what they said when the announced the prima: Smaller ship that could go so smaller ports that are unable to accept large ships. But may be my idea is not feasible due to construction rules One clue might be the MSC Seaside which is also a Project Mille ship. It is 153,500 GT, 95 feet longer than the Prima and appears to have the same number of decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisercl Posted March 18, 2022 #2625 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, BenCoudon said: I know nothing about ships architecture. What about the same length but adding an extra deck for cabins. Would be 21 instead of 20. Is that something possible or it would throw out the balance of the ship? I'm asking the question because 335 additional guests means roughly 160 to 165 additional cabins. And if you look at deck 12 of the Prima, that deck has about 165 cabins. Making the ship longer may go against what they said when the announced the prima: Smaller ship that could go so smaller ports that are unable to accept large ships. But may be my idea is not feasible due to construction rules Not really smaller ships compared to other cruise lines mid-sized to even smaller ships for the smaller ports. I can't imagine they would try to market it like that but who knows. Marketing is what it is. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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