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1 hour ago, BND said:

For one person.  Don't jump to conclusions.  It's routine to do what they did.  Don't panic.

 

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/

 

Not jumping to conclusions, not panicking, I understand it's routine-this validates mine, and many others on this thread that these things take time, and there will be no FDA approved vaccine in late October.  I simply stated fact, that the trial has came to a halt and willl not progress until this has been investigated fully (yes for just one person)

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1 hour ago, Pratique said:

Is this anything like the problems with the 1976 swine flu vaccine? I haven't been following this story.

 

I thought I also heard something about possibly needing multiple doses, not sure if that is of the same vaccine or two different ones.

 

I'm assuming two doses of the same family of serum

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Since we are speculating about everything cruises I say no cruises until summer2021

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2 hours ago, fla gang said:

Since we are speculating about everything cruises I say no cruises until summer2021

Why would you say that?  This is a COVID19 and political thread. Lol 😇

 

M8

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9 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Still a setback, and no I didn't read it. 

 

Of course its common, that's why this typically takes years


   Just like all trials, not only vaccines. We regularly read about lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies, because of something happened after all trials. For example Xarelto. Everything has some side effects of some people. It’s not a reason not to use it.

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7 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I'm assuming two doses of the same family of serum


I had to re-read this post. I thought auto correct got you. 😱😂

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My understanding is the one person had mild fever and body aches for a few days.  Very, very typical reactions to vaccines.

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21 minutes ago, BND said:

My understanding is the one person had mild fever and body aches for a few days.  Very, very typical reactions to vaccines.

 

You've made that very clear.

 

Any thoughts on my original question.

 

"If two or three, totally different types of vaccine win approval, will they all be distributed?"

 

Follow up if yes

 

"Will we, as consumers, be given the choice as to which one we want to get?"

 

Follow up if yes

 

"Can we get more than one of these vaccines, or will that cause an adverse reaction?"

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5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

You've made that very clear.

 

Any thoughts on my original question.

 

"If two or three, totally different types of vaccine win approval, will they all be distributed?"

 

Follow up if yes

 

"Will we, as consumers, be given the choice as to which one we want to get?"

 

Follow up if yes

 

"Can we get more than one of these vaccines, or will that cause an adverse reaction?"

How would I know that?  That hasn't been discussed anywhere that I know of.

 

Why does it bother you that one person had a typical response and that it's being handled just like they always are?

 

Here's an idea, those of us that are fine with getting the vaccine will and those that aren't won't?  I do think people are overreacting to a common practice.

 

I do expect that until herd immunity is reached, those without the vaccine will be stuck in the same situation they currently are.  

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4 minutes ago, BND said:

How would I know that?  That hasn't been discussed anywhere that I know of.

 

Why does it bother you that one person had a typical response and that it's being handled just like they always are?

 

Here's an idea, those of us that are fine with getting the vaccine will and those that aren't won't?  I do think people are overreacting to a common practice.

 

I do expect that until herd immunity is reached, those without the vaccine will be stuck in the same situation they currently are.  

 

For the umpteenth time, I don't care about one person getting a reaction. I am sorry, I attached that tidbit to my response. It was ancillary information. 

 

You come across as an authority on medical stuff, so I assumed you might have insight.  

 

I honestly am curious about competing vaccines coming to market. From whay I gather, there are at least three totally different approaches being worked on. Which is great, but some folks might want the more traditionally developed vaccines.

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2 hours ago, BND said:

My understanding is the one person had mild fever and body aches for a few days.  Very, very typical reactions to vaccines.

If that were the case, there would be many more than one.

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4 hours ago, BND said:

My understanding is the one person had mild fever and body aches for a few days.  Very, very typical reactions to vaccines.

I just read that a person in the UK trial has tranverse myelitis (inflammation syndrome of spinal cord).    I say that is a bit more serious than mild fever and aches and pains that are very common with most vaccines.    Time will tell and we all have to let them do their research and not be pushed in warp speed.   

There are plenty of ways for all of us to go about life with this virus around us.    I have been going to work every day since March and have gone on vacation,  have gone to the beach almost every day for 6 weeks,  go to the salon for hair and nails, go to many restaurants and shops, all good so far...just wear the mask and wash your hands.    

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43 minutes ago, Pratique said:

Transverse myelitis, typical?

Not at all typical. It could easily be a viral induced auto immune response-similar to Guillan Barré or ALS. 

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20 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Too many people here giving medical opinions without a license. We call this malpractice. 
 

M8

 

Do you know much about neurological disorders?

 

FWIW, the symptoms are very similar to my fistula disease. Not good.

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28 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Too many people here giving medical opinions without a license. We call this malpractice. 
 

M8

Literally thousands of posts here now about vaccines.  It's gotten comical.

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Transverse myelitis is apparently serious but very rare.  Good news is afflicted woman in UK is apparently recovering and is expected to be discharged from hospital today.

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19 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Do you know much about neurological disorders?

 

FWIW, the symptoms are very similar to my fistula disease. Not good.

I don’t but I might know someone who does. 😇

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18 minutes ago, bouhunter said:

Literally thousands of posts here now about vaccines.  It's gotten comical.

I thought this thread was about cruising in January. 
 

Politics, COVID19, vaccines, and now medical advice. 😇

 

M8

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3 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I thought this thread was about cruising in January. 
 

Politics, COVID19, vaccines, and now medical advice. 😇

 

M8

Most every thread goes down the rabbit hole sooner or later.

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6 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I thought this thread was about cruising in January. 
 

Politics, COVID19, vaccines, and now medical advice. 😇

 

M8

Still has your attention.

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1 hour ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Too many people here giving medical opinions without a license. We call this malpractice. 
 

M8

Aha, doctors and now a lawyer!

 

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20 minutes ago, bouhunter said:

Most every thread goes down the rabbit hole sooner or later.

 

You know the drill.  When it becomes a free unsolicited, "expert" medical advice thread supported with all kinds of charts, graphs, tables, diagrams, histograms and the likes, followed by a decent into an abyss of political lunacy, the thread magically goes *Poof*  Covid-19 has destroyed more threads on here than any other topic -- it's gone viral (no pun intended). 

 

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1 hour ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Too many people here giving medical opinions without a license. We call this malpractice. 
 

M8

I'm waiting for someone to charge a copay.

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