mcrcruiser Posted September 12, 2020 #1 Share Posted September 12, 2020 We hear that a covid 19 vaccine could be out by the end of October 2020 . If it is considered safe by doctors ,it may still take awhile to reach most people .to start first responders get the first doses ,then the elderly nursing home patients ,followed by the elderly in high risk levels . Next available to all people . What is your thinking when it comes to taking a safe vaccine & the protocol for added safety before boarding the ship .Also ,what about going on tours in foreign ports ? What will you need to feel safe & cruise once again ? All replies are very welcome .We all need to understand our choices (We are booked Jan15 ,2022 Mexican Riviera cruise on Majestic Princess ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outerdog Posted September 12, 2020 #2 Share Posted September 12, 2020 "vaccine thread" is the new "smoking thread"... 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare patrickmoran Posted September 12, 2020 #3 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Let's cruise baby! I'm going as soon as the 1st ship sails. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edspec Posted September 12, 2020 #4 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Agree with patrickmoran. Would go anywhere, no restrictions, leaving tomorrow if possible. I have no fear re Covid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted September 12, 2020 #5 Share Posted September 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, patrickmoran said: Let's cruise baby! I'm going as soon as the 1st ship sails. 3 minutes ago, edspec said: Agree with patrickmoran. Would go anywhere, no restrictions, leaving tomorrow if possible. I have no fear re Covid. so, you both would agree to all the potential restrictions ? masks at all time except eating/drinking staggered boarding times strictly enforced hand washing strictly enforced social distancing, even if it meant missing shows elevators limited to only passengers cruising together severe port restrictions for cruise ship only excursions what else even with the above - sign us up also 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted September 12, 2020 #6 Share Posted September 12, 2020 When will it be safer, seriously, 2022 baby. When will we be able to cruise from the US, likely middle of 2021. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 12, 2020 Author #7 Share Posted September 12, 2020 imo the cruise lines will have to have strong protocols in place even with the vaccine . Reason I say this is because if many people avoid the vaccine , the virus can mutate again & those who have been vaccinated would still be in danger . We all want to cruise ;but ,cruise safely is a priority . Right now the virus spreads very quickly frpm those least effected to those most effected with age & underlying medical problems .The cruise lines must get back the older cruisers who have the time & means to take the longer cruises . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted September 12, 2020 #8 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, mcrcruiser said: The cruise lines must get back the older cruisers who have the time & means to take the longer cruises . eventually, I agree sometimes business models need to adapt to current situations to survive 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 12, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, chipmaster said: When will it be safer, seriously, 2022 baby. When will we be able to cruise from the US, likely middle of 2021. We think that if the vaccine safely works & most people take it then mid 2021 seems likely for crusing to start up again .We booked the Princess Majestic for Jan 15 ,2022 to try & be on the safe side ;but ,still no guarantees at this time . Edited September 12, 2020 by mcrcruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babr Posted September 12, 2020 #10 Share Posted September 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: We hear that a covid 19 vaccine could be out by the end of October 2020 . If it is considered safe by doctors ,it may still take awhile to reach most people .to start first responders get the first doses ,then the elderly nursing home patients ,followed by the elderly in high risk levels . Next available to all people . What is your thinking when it comes to taking a safe vaccine & the protocol for added safety before boarding the ship .Also ,what about going on tours in foreign ports ? What will you need to feel safe & cruise once again ? All replies are very welcome .We all need to understand our choices (We are booked Jan15 ,2022 Mexican Riviera cruise on Majestic Princess ) Based on what public health officials and doctors involved in vaccine development say, I think the October-November approval of a vaccine is more aspirational than real. Once released, the logistics of getting people vaccinated would take a long time. It may be mid-2021 before it is readily available to the general public. In the meantime, the vaccine is not likely to be 100% effective, so we may still have to follow public health guidelines until the virus is well controlled. As much as I miss cruising, I’m in no hurry to return to something so greatly altered that it is no longer the same experience. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 12, 2020 Author #11 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, voljeep said: eventually, I agree sometimes business models need to adapt to current situations to survive I agree as long as there is life safety in place . That horrific situation with Diamond Princess at the Tokyo pier still is in the minds of many who cruise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 12, 2020 Author #12 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Babr said: Based on what public health officials and doctors involved in vaccine development say, I think the October-November approval of a vaccine is more aspirational than real. Once released, the logistics of getting people vaccinated would take a long time. It may be mid-2021 before it is readily available to the general public. In the meantime, the vaccine is not likely to be 100% effective, so we may still have to follow public health guidelines until the virus is well controlled. As much as I miss cruising, I’m in no hurry to return to something so greatly altered that it is no longer the same experience. You made very good points for any one wanting to cruise . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted September 12, 2020 #13 Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: I agree as long as there is life safety in place . That horrific situation with Diamond Princess at the Tokyo pier still is in the minds of many who cruise and those people will/should never cruise again ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 12, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, voljeep said: and those people will/should never cruise again ... Perhaps not .We followed the spread here on cruise critic ,It was terrifying for those poor people .It would have been far better to admit them into a hospital quarantine .Then many might have survived Edited September 12, 2020 by mcrcruiser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare patrickmoran Posted September 12, 2020 #15 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, voljeep said: so, you both would agree to all the potential restrictions ? masks at all time except eating/drinking staggered boarding times strictly enforced hand washing strictly enforced social distancing, even if it meant missing shows elevators limited to only passengers cruising together severe port restrictions for cruise ship only excursions what else even with the above - sign us up also Bring it on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneharborlady Posted September 12, 2020 #16 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Babr said: Based on what public health officials and doctors involved in vaccine development say, I think the October-November approval of a vaccine is more aspirational than real. Once released, the logistics of getting people vaccinated would take a long time. It may be mid-2021 before it is readily available to the general public. In the meantime, the vaccine is not likely to be 100% effective, so we may still have to follow public health guidelines until the virus is well controlled. As much as I miss cruising, I’m in no hurry to return to something so greatly altered that it is no longer the same experience. I doubt very much that a vaccine will be available this year. The claims that it will are not coming from epidemiologists, or any one else in the health field, but rather from politicians, who do not know what they are talking about. However, that aside, I dont think I would enjoy a vacation with all the potential restrictions. My last cruise was very different from my other two cruises, and not in a good way. Service was really lacking, food quality was way down from my previous cruises, and the poor servers in the dining room had so much more responsibility than on my previous cruise, I hesitated to ask for a second drink. At 76, I would be a high risk passenger, and would probably be safer with a beach vacation on land. Just my two cents. Edited September 12, 2020 by stoneharborlady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger88 Posted September 12, 2020 #17 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I keep hearing news that we are getting the vaccine by the end of this year. As soon as the vaccine will be around, there wont be any limitations and this covid thing will be considered as just another type of flue that can be easily curred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravlingGato Posted September 12, 2020 #18 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, voljeep said: so, you both would agree to all the potential restrictions ? masks at all time except eating/drinking staggered boarding times strictly enforced hand washing strictly enforced social distancing, even if it meant missing shows elevators limited to only passengers cruising together severe port restrictions for cruise ship only excursions what else even with the above - sign us up also OK. With 25+cruises behind our stern ,we want to head to the seas too. But be realistic- you are facing a world-wide pandemic of yet unknown proportions. Fine for you to risk your own life ( I really don't care (about you). Do you??). But, I don't want you to risk my life. What ports will you go to? What happens if your ship gets quarantined and you are in "never never waters" for how many weeks because you can get back to your US home? Show some adult maturity and face up to the facts of living now so that you may be alive a year from now to plan the best cruise of your live. NOW AIN'T THE TIME> 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneharborlady Posted September 12, 2020 #19 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Roger88 said: I keep hearing news that we are getting the vaccine by the end of this year. As soon as the vaccine will be around, there wont be any limitations and this covid thing will be considered as just another type of flue that can be easily curred And who are you hearing this from, that might be qualified to know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted September 12, 2020 #20 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TravlingGato said: But, I don't want you to risk my life. pretty sure one of the ports won't be 'nati ... but we would take an excursion there to get some Skyline 5-way, then go get some Graeter's so you're safe now stay safe stay hydrated peace out Edited September 12, 2020 by voljeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted September 12, 2020 #21 Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Roger88 said: I keep hearing news that we are getting the vaccine by the end of this year. As soon as the vaccine will be around, there wont be any limitations and this covid thing will be considered as just another type of flue that can be easily curred But it will take many months to distribute the vaccine throughout the country. Figure 6 months to get everyone the shots. Then require proof of vaccination prior to boarding. Those who refuse to vaccinate don’t get to travel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HappyInVan Posted September 12, 2020 #22 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) In April/May, I cancelled everything (up to March 2021) except for Iceland in August 2021. Today, I have no reason to change my plans. Despite the news about the wonderful quick tests and beautiful vaccines. I intend to maintain discipline. Wait for actual programs to be implemented and success achieved. Waiting for the experts to give the all clear. Wait for the second wave to subside. Waiting to see how bad it gets this winter. Be safe. Edited September 12, 2020 by HappyInVan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted September 12, 2020 #23 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, patrickmoran said: Bring it on! I agree, but sadly if you look at US behavior, what they want and what they are willing to do don't align. Enforcement will be interesting in such a service oriented business like cruising. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted September 12, 2020 #24 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, memoak said: But it will take many months to distribute the vaccine throughout the country. Figure 6 months to get everyone the shots. Then require proof of vaccination prior to boarding. Those who refuse to vaccinate don’t get to travel If the FDA is willing to approve a vaccine with only a 50 percent efficacy the bar is set way too low for such a mandate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzsnooze Posted September 12, 2020 #25 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The Doctors state it will be a two step vaccine and each need to be given 30 days apart. The actual expect, Dr Fauci says things won't get back to pre-covid until late 2011. I don't feel comfortable about any vaccine rushed through protocol by politicians and will wait to see if it really works without major side effects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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