Biker19 Posted October 26, 2020 #76 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, sfaaa said: This could mean they improve their management in food purchasing, controlling food cost and reducing wastage. It doesn't necessary mean they exclusively cut back on food quality to achieve a lower cost %. And revenue went up by all the on board spending increases. Link to post Share on other sites
SkaterJasp Posted October 26, 2020 #77 Share Posted October 26, 2020 No matter how much I love Royal Caribbean... Carnival does have a better steak house and Chef’s Table experience... but that doesn’t mean Royal Caribbean is worse in any way. They’re simply different experiences. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
grandgeezer Posted October 26, 2020 #78 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, sfaaa said: This could mean they improve their management in food purchasing, controlling food cost and reducing wastage. It doesn't necessary mean they exclusively cut back on food quality to achieve a lower cost %. It could but it doesn’t. We feel the food quality has dropped drastically in the last eight years or so. We do alot of B2Bs and we we enjoyed the food so much that we would have the same meals the second week. Now we have the same meal maybe twice or three times. About that time the “free drink packages” were introduced and now half the people can’t really taste the food completely anyway. We don’t have that problem as we don’t see any value in the package. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ReneeFLL Posted October 26, 2020 #79 Share Posted October 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Missusdubbya said: OP you spend so much time on CC complaining that Royal is not up to your standards...... The OP wants caviar on a chicken budget. She'll never get it so she amuses herself with complaining. 🤣🤣🤣 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Missusdubbya Posted October 26, 2020 #80 Share Posted October 26, 2020 23 hours ago, Beeline Cruiser said: I’ll start by asking why we can’t all come together and ask for better from head office?? 23 hours ago, Beeline Cruiser said: Some do but new cruisers and head office need to know! Maybe you should start a petition to RCI head office or write a sternly-worded letter? I am fairly certain they will take no action from a thread on CC 😁 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Beeline Cruiser Posted October 26, 2020 Author #81 Share Posted October 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said: The OP wants caviar on a chicken budget. She'll never get it so she amuses herself with complaining. 🤣🤣🤣 The very first time I cruised this was August of 2008. We spent one night at before at the local Westin Hotel. It all seemed AMAZING and I can admit to having fancier taste ever since then. I'm very grateful for a husband that gets we might need to try something new! I'll add that some people still want chicken on a caviar budget! For real RCL can be DOUBLE the $ of Princess. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey & Sophie Posted October 26, 2020 #82 Share Posted October 26, 2020 We don't cruise Royal for the food. We eat in the Jammer for all meals unless we have a meal gift from our TA. We don't cruise Royal for the ship and it's perks. We cruise Royal cause it gets me out of a Minnesota winter for two weeks. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Bobal Posted October 26, 2020 #83 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said: No the daily adult menu. Fries are offered with many entrees, there is a gourmet Mac and Cheese entree served one night Gourmet mac and cheese. Well that's an oxymoron 🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TravelerThom Posted October 26, 2020 #84 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, SkaterJasp said: ... Carnival does have a better steak house and Chef’s Table experience... but that doesn’t mean Royal Caribbean is worse in any way.... The opposite of “better” is “worse”. Unless you believe that everyone can be above average (which is impossible), if Carnival is better in some ways, then RCI is worse in those ways. Link to post Share on other sites
SkaterJasp Posted October 26, 2020 #85 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TravelerThom said: The opposite of “better” is “worse”. Unless you believe that everyone can be above average (which is impossible), if Carnival is better in some ways, then RCI is worse in those ways. I was saying that Carnival has 2 dining experiences that are better than Royal Caribbean but it doesn’t make Royal Caribbean worst than Carnival when it comes to overall dining experiences. Especially since Royal Caribbean does offer a more diverse selection of specialty dining options across the fleet. Edited October 26, 2020 by SkaterJasp Link to post Share on other sites
A&L_Ont Posted October 26, 2020 #86 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Certainly you know that there are lots of people who want to get what “we” pay for. 😇 To further your comment, imagine if food quality as tiered to cabin pricing/category. Then people would get what they payed for. I do not think it should it happen, but imagine. It is very “Titanic” in principle. 5 hours ago, Beeline Cruiser said: I'll add that some people still want chicken on a caviar budget! For real RCL can be DOUBLE the $ of Princess. Princess also needs to sell cabins after their Covid news experience this spring. Edited October 26, 2020 by A&L_Ont 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sunshine3601 Posted October 26, 2020 #87 Share Posted October 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Merion_Mom said: @Sunshine3601 Yes thank you. Th other poster is saying fries are served with several entrees in mdr. I dont recall that on any mdr dinner menus. Yes chops has some nice truffle fries on lunch menu. I dont think I have ever tried Chops mac n cheese. I love their creamed spinach! Link to post Share on other sites
mek Posted October 26, 2020 #88 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Beeline Cruiser said: Joebucks, seriously, it was actually 12 years ago and a lot has happen! And yeah, it wasn't 5 Star either back then but still two different WORLDS. I have never been on Sea Dream before but I bet it would be the best food we've EVER eaten!! Beautiful area too - feels like it could almost reset my soul! Honestly too expensive and my kid need something he would enjoy!! 12 years ago???? 2008 - maybe slightly different than now, but not by much. I've been cruising since 1972 and you really have to go back to the 80's and early 90's to see what cruising used to be. Link to post Share on other sites
bouhunter Posted October 26, 2020 #89 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Bailey & Sophie said: We cruise Royal cause it gets me out of a Minnesota winter for two weeks. That sums it up 🙂 No point in cruising RCCL for gourmet food. Specialty restaurants good enough when the snow is flying up north. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
livingonthebeach Posted October 26, 2020 #90 Share Posted October 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Beeline Cruiser said: The very first time I cruised this was August of 2008. We spent one night at before at the local Westin Hotel. It all seemed AMAZING and I can admit to having fancier taste ever since then. I'm very grateful for a husband that gets we might need to try something new! I'll add that some people still want chicken on a caviar budget! For real RCL can be DOUBLE the $ of Princess. What exactly is your beef with RCI's food? I haven't been able to figure it out from this thread or the other deleted threads and posts. Is it the taste, appearance, texture of the food or is it the service or overall dining experience? If your idea of amazing and fancy is the Westin then the bar is not set very high. Simply to say the food has been downgraded and hoping Royal's Corporate will come on this forum, read your posts and change their menus just for you because you say the food on Princess is better is somewhat wishing thinking. As others have pointed out, it is best to write RCI a letter explaining your specific dissatisfaction in a polite manner. That might not get you very far, but certainly further than posting your diatribes here, half of which you have had deleted. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
ReneeFLL Posted October 26, 2020 #91 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: .......If your idea of amazing and fancy is the Westin then the bar is not set very high...... So true. I'd say the Westin is just average and the bar can be stumbled over. 🤣 Edited October 26, 2020 by ReneeFLL Link to post Share on other sites
livingonthebeach Posted October 26, 2020 #92 Share Posted October 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, mek said: 12 years ago???? 2008 - maybe slightly different than now, but not by much. I've been cruising since 1972 and you really have to go back to the 80's and early 90's to see what cruising used to be. So true, I remember when the only sport was shuffleboard, the lounge chairs were hard wood and uncomfortable and the only entertainment was the passenger talent show. Some things have changed for the better and some not so much. The dining has changed from only one choice which was very formal at a fixed hour to a more relaxed faster-paced atmosphere with more flexible times. This is the good part. Personally, I prefer the flexibility and variety. Link to post Share on other sites
John&LaLa Posted October 26, 2020 #93 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, A&L_Ont said: To further your comment, imagine if food quality as tiered to cabin pricing/category. Then people would get what they payed for. I do not think it should it happen, but imagine. It is very “Titanic” in principle. But with CK ships, it kind of is. And its carried further with STAR Class Link to post Share on other sites
John&LaLa Posted October 26, 2020 #94 Share Posted October 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: What exactly is your beef with RCI's food? I haven't been able to figure it out from this thread or the other deleted threads and posts. Is it the taste, appearance, texture of the food or is it the service or overall dining experience? If your idea of amazing and fancy is the Westin then the bar is not set very high. Simply to say the food has been downgraded and hoping Royal's Corporate will come on this forum, read your posts and change their menus just for you because you say the food on Princess is better is somewhat wishing thinking. As others have pointed out, it is best to write RCI a letter explaining your specific dissatisfaction in a polite manner. That might not get you very far, but certainly further than posting your diatribes here, half of which you have had deleted. 18 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said: So true. I'd say the Westin is just average and the bar can be stumbled over. 🤣 You have to understand how the OP rambles on. I think the amazing part was the cruise. The Westi was just thrown in Link to post Share on other sites
mek Posted October 26, 2020 #95 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: So true, I remember when the only sport was shuffleboard, the lounge chairs were hard wood and uncomfortable and the only entertainment was the passenger talent show. Some things have changed for the better and some not so much. The dining has changed from only one choice which was very formal at a fixed hour to a more relaxed faster-paced atmosphere with more flexible times. This is the good part. Personally, I prefer the flexibility and variety. So do I - as I get older I really appreciate laid back and casual,(which does not mean sloppy!) If it was up to me I would just hang out and graze most of the day and evening, but my husband likes to socialize, so dinner is important to him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
livingonthebeach Posted October 26, 2020 #96 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: You have to understand how the OP rambles on. I think the amazing part was the cruise. The Westi was just thrown in Yes I get it. A lot of things thrown in and lots of things thrown out, mixed in with lots of tangents. Probably best to hit the "ignore" button. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
lr657 Posted October 26, 2020 #97 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: Yes I get it. A lot of things thrown in and lots of things thrown out, mixed in with lots of tangents. Probably best to hit the "ignore" button. I get it too, and have pretty much decided that it likely is best to hit the "ignore" button. I have been trying to understand what the OP's motive really is besides posting on Royal threads to complain and stir things up. The OP has been told by multiple posters to write to the appropriate people with their complaints. If the OP is not satisfied with Royal the obvious solution is to cruise on different line. Apparently the OP is not interested in advice and just wishes to complain. Besides being entertaining to read, the posts serve no other purpose. Edited October 26, 2020 by lr657 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Iamcruzin Posted October 26, 2020 #98 Share Posted October 26, 2020 15 hours ago, John&LaLa said: But that's not what I asked😉 FWIW, there are very few places to get 5 star quality food anywhere I don't think people realize what it takes to get one Michelin Star and the most an establishment can get is 3. If we are talking about Yelp stars then I apologize. On a second note a Chef can receive more than 3 stars. Gordon Ramsay has 16 combined with all of his restaurants. I don't know of any Michelin Star chefs on Royal Caribbean or any cruise line for that matter. I think it would be advertised by the cruise line. The food and service has no doubt declined across the board in the past 30 yrs but I'm over it. I only expect it to get worse given the current situation. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ReneeFLL Posted October 26, 2020 #99 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Beeline Cruiser said: You need to learn how to compare apples to apples and not just post something to try to prove your point. Is that what you're trying to do because it isn't working. Since you didn't do your homework let me do a little bit of it for you. These are just a few. If you are so interested in Princess then you can do your own homework or book a cheaper cruise and get a lot less. ROYAL 7 ports each port that's added it cost more newer and bigger ship lots more to do entertainment PRINCESS 5 ports older and smaller not nearly as much to do Edited October 26, 2020 by ReneeFLL Link to post Share on other sites
Ourusualbeach Posted October 26, 2020 #100 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said: You need to learn how to compare apples to apples and not just post something to try to prove your point. Is that what you're trying to do because it isn't working. Since you didn't do your homework let me do a little bit of it for you. These are just a few. If you are so interested in Princess then you can do your own homework or book a cheaper cruise and get a lot less. ROYAL 7 ports each port that's added it cost more newer and bigger ship lots more to do entertainment PRINCESS 5 ports older and smaller not nearly as much to do Exactly. It’s not uncommon even on Royal to find $1000 price differences between old and new ships doing the same basic itinerary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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