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ace2542

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7 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said:

Have you got your copy of the ‘signed contract’ ?

My father signed a consent form when he his vaccine first dose. Perhaps my NHS friend signed the same thing or maybe he signed something different being NHS worker. My father was told to return in 3 weeks time (today) and will. My friend his first jab just before christmas and is now being told in West Yorkshire that he is on the 12 week cycle despite first being told it was only 3 weeks and he thinks that whatever he signed he is giving his consent to have second jab in 3 weeks not 12 weeks?

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8 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

My father signed a consent form when he his vaccine first dose. Perhaps my NHS friend signed the same thing or maybe he signed something different being NHS worker. My father was told to return in 3 weeks time (today) and will. My friend his first jab just before christmas and is now being told in West Yorkshire that he is on the 12 week cycle despite first being told it was only 3 weeks and he thinks that whatever he signed he is giving his consent to have second jab in 3 weeks not 12 weeks?

I understand.  Its not a contract.  He signed consent to taking the vaccination after having the potential side-effects highlighted.  There is no "right" to a time frame for the 2nd jab.  It was meant to be 3 weeks it is now "up to" 12 weeks.

 

I know it seems confusing but NHS workers become patients just like everyone else when they get the vaccination.  Their employer has no right to know who has had the vaccine or who has not.

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21 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

My father signed a consent form when he his vaccine first dose. Perhaps my NHS friend signed the same thing or maybe he signed something different being NHS worker. My father was told to return in 3 weeks time (today) and will. My friend his first jab just before christmas and is now being told in West Yorkshire that he is on the 12 week cycle despite first being told it was only 3 weeks and he thinks that whatever he signed he is giving his consent to have second jab in 3 weeks not 12 weeks?

So it’s a consent form, not a contract. If it was a contract, he’d surely have his copy of the contract? 

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10 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said:

So it’s a consent form, not a contract. If it was a contract, he’d surely have his copy of the contract? 

My mate who works in the NHS says this I will quote his facebook message. "they're making decisions without proof or consent, I signed a contract that says 21 days, not 12 weeks"   Make of that what you will. My father just has a card with name of vaccine and date of second shot. It does not contain his signature.

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1 minute ago, ace2542 said:

My mate who works in the NHS says he I will quote his facebook message. "they're making decisions without proof or consent, I signed a contract that says 21 days, not 12 weeks"   Make of that what you will. My father just has a card with name of vaccine and date of second shot. It does not contain his signature.

That's all that the NHS staff had too. They sign a consent form when they go for first jab and are then given the card to show which vaccine and the date of the vaccination. There's no contract. 

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2 minutes ago, cruisenewbie1976 said:

That's all that the NHS staff had too. They sign a consent form when they go for first jab and are then given the card to show which vaccine and the date of the vaccination. There's no contract. 

That clears that up then.

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2 minutes ago, Adawn47 said:

Well they need more than us.

Avril

The last quote I saw was that the UK had ordered approx 360 million doses from various companies. This was done not knowing whether there would be an effective vaccine or when one or more would become available, as did many other countries. Who would have wanted to take that sort of gamble? I hate to think how much money has been invested in all this. At the moment we are one of the global leaders in approving and administering the vaccine. We are one of the lucky ones we have the financial support to be able to do this, billions of people will likely not get a vaccine this year. Sometimes you have to be thankful for small mercies.

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21 minutes ago, yorkshirephil said:

The last quote I saw was that the UK had ordered approx 360 million doses from various companies. This was done not knowing whether there would be an effective vaccine or when one or more would become available, as did many other countries. Who would have wanted to take that sort of gamble? I hate to think how much money has been invested in all this. At the moment we are one of the global leaders in approving and administering the vaccine. We are one of the lucky ones we have the financial support to be able to do this, billions of people will likely not get a vaccine this year. Sometimes you have to be thankful for small mercies.

A sensible an unbiased post Phil. I agree with every word.

Avril

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14 minutes ago, yorkshirephil said:

The last quote I saw was that the UK had ordered approx 360 million doses from various companies. This was done not knowing whether there would be an effective vaccine or when one or more would become available, as did many other countries. Who would have wanted to take that sort of gamble? I hate to think how much money has been invested in all this. At the moment we are one of the global leaders in approving and administering the vaccine. We are one of the lucky ones we have the financial support to be able to do this, billions of people will likely not get a vaccine this year. Sometimes you have to be thankful for small mercies.

 

I'm very thankful that we even have a vaccine , last year at this time we hadn't got a

clue let alone a vaccine for covid. 

I dread to think where we would be with the new strains that are coming along.

We have people who have had the first vaccine shot and yet some say why not roll out 

faster. Ok begin to speed it up now we know there is no issues with the vaccine in the

first week, we can move on faster now.

By extending the first shot from 3 to 12 weeks , that is saving lives but I do understand 

some who were told "see you in 3 weeks" but is now 12 weeks , they're disappointed as 

they wanted it all over with , but they are still getting the other jab, so why worry just be 

thankful for what we have and lots of other people are saved from the risk of hospital or 

even worse death. This is also taking the strain from our NHS who are doing an amazing

job  for all of us .My specialist rang me the other day and in the conversation told me my 

chances of being vaccinated had moved from February to very late March , so be it if that's

when I'm due . I will be grateful of my first jab when it comes and pleased when the second

jab arrives in my arm .  I think it was you who said Phil "There is only two needles left "..

Do I say "Give them to me they are mine " or do I say "Save another life as well "

We are all in this together and we will come out of it together , it just takes time .:classic_smile:

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3 minutes ago, kalos said:

 

I'm very thankful that we even have a vaccine , last year at this time we hadn't got a

clue let alone a vaccine for covid. 

I dread to think where we would be with the new strains that are coming along.

We have people who have had the first vaccine shot and yet some say why not roll out 

faster. Ok begin to speed it up now we know there is no issues with the vaccine in the

first week, we can move on faster now.

By extending the first shot from 3 to 12 weeks , that is saving lives but I do understand 

some who were told "see you in 3 weeks" but is now 12 weeks , they're disappointed as 

they wanted it all over with , but they are still getting the other jab, so why worry just be 

thankful for what we have and lots of other people are saved from the risk of hospital or 

even worse death. This is also taking the strain from our NHS who are doing an amazing

job  for all of us .My specialist rang me the other day and in the conversation told me my 

chances of being vaccinated had moved from February to very late March , so be it if that's

when I'm due . I will be grateful of my first jab when it comes and pleased when the second

jab arrives in my arm .  I think it was you who said Phil "There is only two needles left "..

Do I say "Give them to me they are mine " or do I say "Save another life as well "

We are all in this together and we will come out of it together , it just takes time .:classic_smile:

The 3 or 12 week space between jabs is a very difficult one for me, I am torn between a rock and a hard place on this. Having spent most of my adult life in Pharms it is difficult to accept anything that does not comply with the rules of the game, there is no scientific justification for extending the gap beyond the parameters of the clinical trials, because no one knows what could happen. However the humane side of me says try and save as many lives as possible and ease the pressures on the NHS, plus the mental health of people who will get the vaccine sooner. I can understand the stance that the vaccine suppliers and WHO are taking as they use the same scientific rational as I have been taught. I can also see the government backed by the health and science advisers point. This just shows how difficult some of these decisions are and I pray that we are going down the best route.

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20 minutes ago, kalos said:

 

I'm very thankful that we even have a vaccine , last year at this time we hadn't got a

clue let alone a vaccine for covid. 

I dread to think where we would be with the new strains that are coming along.

We have people who have had the first vaccine shot and yet some say why not roll out 

faster. Ok begin to speed it up now we know there is no issues with the vaccine in the

first week, we can move on faster now.

By extending the first shot from 3 to 12 weeks , that is saving lives but I do understand 

some who were told "see you in 3 weeks" but is now 12 weeks , they're disappointed as 

they wanted it all over with , but they are still getting the other jab, so why worry just be 

thankful for what we have and lots of other people are saved from the risk of hospital or 

even worse death. This is also taking the strain from our NHS who are doing an amazing

job  for all of us .My specialist rang me the other day and in the conversation told me my 

chances of being vaccinated had moved from February to very late March , so be it if that's

when I'm due . I will be grateful of my first jab when it comes and pleased when the second

jab arrives in my arm .  I think it was you who said Phil "There is only two needles left "..

Do I say "Give them to me they are mine " or do I say "Save another life as well "

We are all in this together and we will come out of it together , it just takes time .:classic_smile:

Hope you don’t mind me asking, but why are your brilliant posts formatted in this way?

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I see EU Regulators have approved the Moderna vaccine.  I wonder when the UK will reach a conclusion on this one?  Hopefully within days, to give those in charge of rolling out the vaccination programme three strings to their bow

Anybody heard any whispers?

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3 minutes ago, Eddie99 said:

I see EU Regulators have approved the Moderna vaccine.  I wonder when the UK will reach a conclusion on this one?  Hopefully within days, to give those in charge of rolling out the vaccination programme three strings to their bow

Anybody heard any whispers?

We have only ordered 5 million doses of the Moderna vaccine and that was done late on compared with some of the others. It would have taken MHRA as long to approve that as it would to approve the Oxford version so it is basically a case of picking the low hanging fruit. I would be surprised if we are not far behind unless one of the other vaccines is currently being audited for approval. Keep an eye on the news, unless Boris wants to announce it at a briefing.

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