waterfever Posted March 24, 2021 #26 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 2:24 PM, BecciBoo said: Does anyone know if Allure got her refurb in May last year while all this was going on? I'm betting we DO get to cruise Sept. 12th, but just wondered. I don't think they did anything major like adding the slides, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 2, 2021 #27 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Harmony has stopped her progress toward Cadiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswallow Posted April 2, 2021 #28 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Harmony, Jewel, Symphony and Liberty of the Seas To Enter Navantia Shipyards https://www.cruiseharbournews.com/royalnavantia.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXA350 Posted April 2, 2021 #29 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Symphony seems to be an error, the ship is 3 years old, why would they bring her all the way over Atlantic for a dry dock unless she has some major technical issues we might not be aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted April 2, 2021 #30 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, LXA350 said: Symphony seems to be an error, the ship is 3 years old, why would they bring her all the way over Atlantic for a dry dock unless she has some major technical issues we might not be aware of. Symphony was due in 2023. Perhaps by bringing her in early they can then reset the 5 year clock and she would not be due until 2026. That would save them from taking her out if service in 2023. Makes sense since she’s not sailing with passengers now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted April 2, 2021 #31 Share Posted April 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Symphony was due in 2023. Perhaps by bringing her in early they can then reset the 5 year clock and she would not be due until 2026. That would save them from taking her out if service in 2023. Makes sense since she’s not sailing with passengers now. Then I would not miss my April 2023 cruise on her😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 3, 2021 #32 Share Posted April 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: Perhaps by bringing her in early they can then reset the 5 year clock and she would not be due until 2026. Perhaps @chengkp75can say whether this is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 3, 2021 #33 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: Symphony was due in 2023. Perhaps by bringing her in early they can then reset the 5 year clock and she would not be due until 2026. That would save them from taking her out if service in 2023. Makes sense since she’s not sailing with passengers now. The only way to "reset" the clock, which started the day the ship was delivered, and continues to the day she is scrapped, is to take the ship "out of service", and have all documents and certificates cancelled. Then the ship would have to get a temporary certificate to transit from where it is in lay-up to a shipyard, where a drydocking and full survey (many days) would have to be completed before all certificates were re-issued. Just like when some of the Oasis class ships were brought into shipyard early for azipod repairs, that doesn't count, the statutory drydockings must be within a 3 month window either side of the 5 year anniversary. With the large drydock in Freeport still unusable (and I'm doubtful they will ever to the "partial" dockings again), the only yards that can take the Oasis class ships are in Europe, and with all the azipod failures RCG has experienced, they may want to do a drydocking instead of the allowed underwater survey at the half way point in the 5 year span, to overhaul the pods. Edited April 3, 2021 by chengkp75 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted April 3, 2021 #34 Share Posted April 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: The only way to "reset" the clock, which started the day the ship was delivered, and continues to the day she is scrapped, is to take the ship "out of service", and have all documents and certificates cancelled. Then the ship would have to get a temporary certificate to transit from where it is in lay-up to a shipyard, where a drydocking and full survey (many days) would have to be completed before all certificates were re-issued. Just like when some of the Oasis class ships were brought into shipyard early for azipod repairs, that doesn't count, the statutory drydockings must be within a 3 month window either side of the 5 year anniversary. With the large drydock in Freeport still unusable (and I'm doubtful they will ever to the "partial" dockings again), the only yards that can take the Oasis class ships are in Europe, and with all the azipod failures RCG has experienced, they may want to do a drydocking instead of the allowed underwater survey at the half way point in the 5 year span, to overhaul the pods. Thanks for the update. Taking her over for a drydock to do work on the Azipods does make a lot of sense given the issues that they have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted April 3, 2021 Author #35 Share Posted April 3, 2021 17 hours ago, dswallow said: Harmony, Jewel, Symphony and Liberty of the Seas To Enter Navantia Shipyards https://www.cruiseharbournews.com/royalnavantia.html Thanks for sharing this info. I sail Jewel next year; so having it worked on this year is good all around. Happy Easter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 3, 2021 #36 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, AF-1 said: I sail Jewel next year; so having it worked on this year is good all around. Don't expect to notice any of the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 3, 2021 #37 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: Thanks for the update. Taking her over for a drydock to do work on the Azipods does make a lot of sense given the issues that they have had. I'm starting to think that regardless of cost, the "big girls" will get two extra drydockings every 10 years, so they can do azipods every 30 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted April 3, 2021 Author #38 Share Posted April 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, Biker19 said: Don't expect to notice any of the work. I know; just like that the maint will be good regardless of cosmetic features Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXA350 Posted April 3, 2021 #39 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Has there been any issues with the Azipods on Harmony? Looks like only Oasis and Allure had problems that needed the vessel to be fixed inbetween the dry docks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 3, 2021 #40 Share Posted April 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, LXA350 said: Has there been any issues with the Azipods on Harmony? Looks like only Oasis and Allure had problems that needed the vessel to be fixed inbetween the dry docks? No, but she is approaching the time frame where they start to see problems, so I believe, based on the Oasis and Allure having early dockings for pod maintenance (all pods were working), that they are taking a preventative maintenance interval where they overhaul the pods before a problem happens. Good engineering. If improvements and upgrades to pods show that the maintenance interval can be lengthened again, they will. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 6, 2021 #41 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Symphony is on her TA to Cadiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted May 6, 2021 Author #42 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Glad to see all the ships getting worked on. Also glad it provides work to all those in the dry docks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted May 6, 2021 #43 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Jewel already in Cadiz. Apparently Liberty on her way over too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 6, 2021 #44 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, little britain said: Apparently Liberty on her way over too. She still seems to be hanging out by CoCoCay with the rest of the RCG fleet. The article in post #28 said not till July for Liberty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgooding12 Posted May 6, 2021 #45 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Is it normal for RCI's website to allow bookings for all of July when it's being reported that Liberty will be in dry dock then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 7, 2021 #46 Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 hours ago, bgooding12 said: Is it normal for RCI's website to allow bookings for all of July when it's being reported that Liberty will be in dry dock then? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imola Posted May 7, 2021 #47 Share Posted May 7, 2021 So if the Liberty is scheduled for drydock in July does that mean all the July sailings from Galveston will be canceled? We are booked to sail July 25th. If so why would they book a month of sailings knowing the ship will be in drydock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leyla Posted May 7, 2021 #48 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) https://www.cruiseharbournews.com/royalnavantia.html Edited May 7, 2021 by leyla error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted May 7, 2021 #49 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 hours ago, imola said: So if the Liberty is scheduled for drydock in July does that mean all the July sailings from Galveston will be canceled? We are booked to sail July 25th. If so why would they book a month of sailings knowing the ship will be in drydock. To be fair the sailings were released long before they planned on having Liberty do a drydock. They are just taking advantage of idle time knowing that the ships won’t be sailing to get some work done. As far as cancelling the sailings, those will be cancelled along with all the rest of the July sailings company wide just as they have been doing for the past year...cancelling a month at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
help04me Posted May 7, 2021 #50 Share Posted May 7, 2021 When is explorer due for a dry dock to amplify this may have been covered but I have not seem it thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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