Bo1953 Posted March 23, 2021 #76 Share Posted March 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Fouremco said: Any cruise season less than 3 months in length I consider to be short. YMMV. Hmmmm, I welcome the opportunity to be on a 'short' three (3) month sailing!!! LOL bon voyage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted March 23, 2021 Author #77 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Read it again, Bo. It was “season” not “sailing” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1953 Posted March 23, 2021 #78 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, cruisestitch said: Read it again, Bo. It was “season” not “sailing” LOL - yes I did understand it as it was written, BUT I Am pining for a sailing that long sans around the world... bon voyage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandee2 Posted March 23, 2021 #79 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 10:35 AM, TeeRick said: So why would any island nation risk its people (unless most are vaccinated) for the sake of rich American tourists? And what about how the cruise line would be viewed? Don't you think a major backlash would follow? It already started. Depending who you follow on Twitter/Instagram, tourists are looking more and more the new "colonialist", happy to keep the islands and small nations under their economic blackmail. There is a growing number of people wishing us all to leave them alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 23, 2021 #80 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Bo1953 said: Hmmmm, I welcome the opportunity to be on a 'short' three (3) month sailing!!! LOL bon voyage Wouldn't we all, Bo! Heck, I'd even settle for a three week sail right about now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted March 23, 2021 #81 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Interesting that Royal just announced today they are doing 7 day cruises homeported in Bermuda. Hopefully Celebrity is next. I just started a new thread with the press release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlandandsea Posted March 24, 2021 #82 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The Silhouette is near Barbados. Perhaps cruising from there in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted March 24, 2021 #83 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just heard on CNBC that CDC has reiterated that the cruise line restrictions will remain until the November expiration date. Could not find anything on the CDC web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted March 26, 2021 #84 Share Posted March 26, 2021 More and more home port changes every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longboysfan Posted March 26, 2021 #85 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 12:12 PM, TeeRick said: Private islands like Labadee and Coco Cay could be used if they apply strict controlled access to vaccinated persons only. Including any locals that work there. But they are not able to be used for home ports to base cruises. But good controlled port stops for fully vaccinated ships. Yes. But how would you get the passengers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 26, 2021 #86 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Longboysfan said: Yes. But how would you get the passengers out there. This got me wondering if another ship could be used to ferry people from POM or PE. I think the voyages would be legal under the PVSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 26, 2021 #87 Share Posted March 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, broberts said: This got me wondering if another ship could be used to ferry people from POM or PE. I think the voyages would be legal under the PVSA. What do you mean by "another ship"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 26, 2021 #88 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Fouremco said: What do you mean by "another ship"? Just that, RCG has numerous ships sailing in circles, (or holding station), at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 26, 2021 #89 Share Posted March 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, broberts said: Just that, RCG has numerous ships sailing in circles, (or holding station), at the moment. Maybe you've missed it, but no cruise ships are allowed to sail out of POM, PR or any other US port for the immediate future. You have a lot of reading and catching up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 26, 2021 #90 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Fouremco said: Maybe you've missed it, but no cruise ships are allowed to sail out of POM, PR or any other US port for the immediate future. You have a lot of reading and catching up to do. Ferries are still running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 26, 2021 #91 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, broberts said: Ferries are still running. RCG doesn't operate ferries, and you can't simply take a foreign-flagged cruise ship, load it with cruise passengers and call it a ferry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 26, 2021 #92 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fouremco said: RCG doesn't operate ferries, and you can't simply take a foreign-flagged cruise ship, load it with cruise passengers and call it a ferry. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 26, 2021 #93 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, broberts said: Why not? For the same reason that you can't call a cruise ship an airplane simply to circumvent legislation and regulations applicable to cruise ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 26, 2021 #94 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Fouremco said: For the same reason that you can't call a cruise ship an airplane simply to circumvent legislation and regulations applicable to cruise ships. Ferrying is an activity. Any ship is able to act as a ferry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGW59 Posted March 26, 2021 #95 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, broberts said: Ferrying is an activity. Any ship is able to act as a ferry. Yes but ferrying generally conveys/implies transport over a short distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted March 26, 2021 #96 Share Posted March 26, 2021 IIRC the history of the law as recounted by @chengkp75, the PSVA was enacted specifically to regulate ferries. And on that front it is doing very well. Think of the terrible ferry tragedies that happen regularly around the world – but not in the US. If changes are ever made to the PSVA, the rules on ferries will be the last to be loosened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 26, 2021 #97 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, broberts said: Ferrying is an activity. Any ship is able to act as a ferry. That's a very simplistic definitional approach. Spend a bit of time with Google researching US maritime law and you'll find that things aren't quite as easy as you seem to think. The US Customs Service published a document titled "GUIDELINES FOR FERRY OPERATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES" that provides some idea of the scope of federal agencies that are involved in governing ferry options, including this paragraph: The development of any new ferry operation or expanding existing ferry operations involves several other federal agencies. A few that are directly involved in these operations are: Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), Public Health Services (PCH) and the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). However, this document will focus only on the aspects of the U.S. Customs Service. Other agencies should be contacted to determine their requirements. Of course, you can add the CDC, the Coast Guard and a number of others once you start talking about any international routes. The bottom line is that what you are proposing simply isn't feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys Kathy Posted March 26, 2021 #98 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 1:14 PM, Baron Barracuda said: CDC isn't bluffing. They could very well be pleased if Royal sailed from Cozumel or Barbados or any other Caribbean port with no calls at US ports. It just aids their mission of preventing spread of disease within US. If preventing disease is a concern, why are they letting people cross at the southern border with Covid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted March 26, 2021 #99 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, broberts said: Ferries are still running. The ferries are US flagged or are small enough to be under the CDC personnel limit When it comes to ferries operating from US ports they are pretty much all US flagged ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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