edgee Posted April 13, 2021 #26 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Strongly disagree with comments in this thread from those who are offended by the cruise industry asking for their customers help in influencing the government on this issue. As a retired Capitol Hill lobbyist, I can assure you that industries find that the most effective way to encourage favorable action by government is to get local consumers to support their position. Nothing more appropriate or more effective in a democracy (other than voting, itself) than for citizens to express their views to legislators who represent them. Cruise industry customers who disagree with the industry's position/request for action are free to ignore the request or to even write their member of Congress in opposition. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted April 15, 2021 #27 Share Posted April 15, 2021 And, it seems to be working: CDC Meets with Cruise Industry, White House as Calls for Restart Grows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of DaNile Posted April 15, 2021 #28 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I read the article. The CDC is still not budging: "Yet positive movement halted Wednesday with the issuance of guidance recommending Americans continue to avoid all cruise travel, whether by ocean or river, domestic or foreign. The CDC's guidance on cruise remains at Level 4: Very High." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted April 15, 2021 #29 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Queen of DaNile said: I read the article. The CDC is still not budging: "Yet positive movement halted Wednesday with the issuance of guidance recommending Americans continue to avoid all cruise travel, whether by ocean or river, domestic or foreign. The CDC's guidance on cruise remains at Level 4: Very High." I think the 12 hour rule was put in by CDC as a throwaway to keep us natives from getting restless. Let them eat cake! Edited April 15, 2021 by Daniel A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted April 15, 2021 #30 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Let’s take a very close look at the News today. Here is what our Government has told us: 1. On a cruise ship , with everyone vaccinated, passengers and crew, it is still Level 4 dangerous to sail and they aren’t approving it. 2. This is huge. Today’s paper announced that on 4/28, the President will address a joint Chamber of Congress. There will be no guests or aides allowed to attend only members of Congress. In fact, to facilitate proper physical distancing, not only will those in attendance be spread throughout room including the upper balcony, BUT also not all members will be allowed to attend because of a lack of physical space. All in attendance will be masked. All members of Congress have been fully vaccinated. Our government is going on national television, before hundreds of millions , essentially saying the vaccine is as worthless as tits on a boar hog. Even after full vaccination it is too dangerous for those 435 members to gather together . Even after full vaccination it is too dangerous for passengers to be even on a R ship. Level 4 too dangerous! The only question now is when is the government going to come clean and totally tell the truth? Their actions already demonstrate what’s actually occurring. What is it they know that they refuse to tell? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted April 15, 2021 #31 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Queen of DaNile said: I read the article. The CDC is still not budging: "Yet positive movement halted Wednesday with the issuance of guidance recommending Americans continue to avoid all cruise travel, whether by ocean or river, domestic or foreign. The CDC's guidance on cruise remains at Level 4: Very High." With their being a lot of evidence that we're in or going into another "surge," I don't see anything changing any time soon. Next year perhaps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KS&JW Posted April 15, 2021 #32 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Social media ad that I saw this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted April 15, 2021 #33 Share Posted April 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, KS&JW said: Social media ad that I saw this morning. Our cruise for 9/22 is totally within Guatemala/Galapagos. But if the CDC hasn't given the "go" order we won't be going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzy Posted April 15, 2021 #34 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Will American Cruise Lines (ACL) have to cease operating?..... And if not why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoverian Posted April 15, 2021 #35 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) An it looks like members of Congress are also divided on the question of resuming sailing. Neither Matsui or Blumenthal seem to have any cruise industry related industries or suppliers at stake during the pandemic. Maybe the White House will be the final authority? https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24792-u-s-politicians-urge-cdc-to-keep-cruise-industry-closed.html Edited April 15, 2021 by Hanoverian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted April 15, 2021 #36 Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 hours ago, pinotlover said: Our government is going on national television, before hundreds of millions , essentially saying the vaccine is as worthless as tits on a boar hog. Pinot- This statement is a spin that ignores the vaccine's ability to minimize perhaps eliminate severe cases and death of those who break through the infection barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted April 15, 2021 #37 Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, 1985rz1 said: Pinot- This statement is a spin that ignores the vaccine's ability to minimize perhaps eliminate severe cases and death of those who break through the infection barrier. This poster just loves to make statements like this. Good ole boy drams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted April 15, 2021 #38 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) The funeral for Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh will be held this weekend. Attendance will be limited to 30 people. They will wear masks. They will practise appropriate social distancing. As we approach probably the half way point of this pandemic, Her Majesty the Queen is setting an important example, and sending a message to a Worldwide audience that it is still important to take precautions. Edited April 15, 2021 by Tranquility Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted April 15, 2021 #39 Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 hours ago, 1985rz1 said: Pinot- This statement is a spin that ignores the vaccine's ability to minimize perhaps eliminate severe cases and death of those who break through the infection barrier. What their actions signal is that being vaccinated alone will never make it safe to assemble and get back to normalcy. If 435 fully vaccinated people can’t meet in a huge auditorium, then normalcy is a pipe dream. Probably as much as ever sailing in US waters again is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted April 15, 2021 #40 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Pfizer CEO has said it's likely people will need a 3rd dose somewhere between 6 to 12 months of initial inoculation. After that an annual booster may be requited. Variants will play a key role. Source: CNBC Edited April 16, 2021 by Tranquility Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted April 16, 2021 #41 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Tranquility Base said: Pfizer CEO has said it's likely people will need a 3rd dose somewhere between 6 to 12 months of initial inoculation. At the rate we are going here in Canada the 2 nd dose will be 6 months right now we are supposed to get our 2nd at almost 4 mths from the 1st 😲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted April 16, 2021 #42 Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, pinotlover said: What their actions signal is that being vaccinated alone will never make it safe to assemble and get back to normalcy. If 435 fully vaccinated people can’t meet in a huge auditorium, then normalcy is a pipe dream. Probably as much as ever sailing in US waters again is. Yep. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted April 16, 2021 #43 Share Posted April 16, 2021 23 hours ago, clo said: Our cruise for 9/22 is totally within Guatemala/Galapagos. But if the CDC hasn't given the "go" order we won't be going. Oops. Ecuador not Guatemala 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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