New Vaccination policy on RCL

[jrapps]

48 minutes ago, At Sea At Peace said:

On the TX front, although a TX fan and a son and family are there and we love our extended visits, Galveston has roughly the capacity to handle 1/8th the passenger volume of Miami, Port Canaveral and Port Everglades.

True, but we'd be lucky if the US hit 1/8th of cruise capacity this summer.

[livingonthebeach]

I read on social media which is not always accurate, I'll add, that the FL AG sent a letter to RCI recently stating the State of FL will not get in the way of whatever Royal needs to do to start back up.  Can't vouch for the veracity but that is the rumor going around. 

[ipeeinthepool]

1 minute ago, livingonthebeach said:

I read on social media which is not always accurate, I'll add, that the FL AG sent a letter to RCI recently stating the State of FL will not get in the way of whatever Royal needs to do to start back up.  Can't vouch for the veracity but that is the rumor going around. 

 

The Celebrity Marketing VP told a group of TAs on a webinar last week that the Governors Executive order won't be a problem.  They have developed a work-around.

[livingonthebeach]

Just now, ipeeinthepool said:

 

The Celebrity Marketing VP told a group of TAs on a webinar last week that the Governors Executive order won't be a problem.  They have developed a work-around.

 

That's great to hear!  Thanks. 

[ipeeinthepool]

7 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

That's great to hear!  Thanks. 

 

I'm here to bring good news whenever I can. 

 

How about another.  Celebrity has announced that vaccinated people can go ashore independently and arrange their own shore excursions.

Edited May 23, 2021 by ipeeinthepool

[livingonthebeach]

Just now, ipeeinthepool said:

 

I'm here to bring good news whenever I can. 

 

How about another.  Celebrity has announced that vaccinated people can go ashore indecently and arrange their own shore excursions.

 

LOL - indecently?  How so?  

[ipeeinthepool]

1 minute ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

LOL - indecently?  How so?  

Thanks.  As long as it's off the ship, they probably don't care.

[zekekelso]

10 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

LOL - indecently?  How so?  

I would have thought that more of a Carnival thing. 

[livingonthebeach]

4 minutes ago, zekekelso said:

I would have thought that more of a Carnival thing. 

 

Yeah right -- that or the clothing optional Bliss Cruise on Oasis in November. 

[not-enough-cruising]

1 hour ago, livingonthebeach said:

I read on social media which is not always accurate, I'll add, that the FL AG sent a letter to RCI recently stating the State of FL will not get in the way of whatever Royal needs to do to start back up.  Can't vouch for the veracity but that is the rumor going around. 

Of course they won’t get in the way, because the law they passed can not be applied to the cruising industry. 

[ONECRUISER]

3 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

I think the lawsuits have expedited many of things that we have seen change from the cdc in the last week or so.  They don't want a judgement against them.  They are trying to make the lawsuit moot.

Agree, many times Lawsuits are just get things rolling or attn, possibly in the Media. In end many times everyone gets what they really wanted to begin with

[ChutChut]

1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Of course they won’t get in the way, because the law they passed can not be applied to the cruising industry. 

Not accurate. Fl AG did no such thing. Law certainly may be applied to the cruise industry as it's governed by fed, state, and local law (a very complex mix).

[not-enough-cruising]

56 minutes ago, ChutChut said:

Not accurate. Fl AG did no such thing. Law certainly may be applied to the cruise industry as it's governed by fed, state, and local law (a very complex mix).

We will see. I’m sure when it comes to nut cutting time, the cruise lines will have zero trouble asking for proof of vaccine in Florida. 

[jrapps]

3 hours ago, livingonthebeach said:

I read on social media which is not always accurate, I'll add, that the FL AG sent a letter to RCI recently stating the State of FL will not get in the way of whatever Royal needs to do to start back up.  Can't vouch for the veracity but that is the rumor going around. 

I know the state of Florida Surgeon General sent a letter saying that nothing from the state stands in the way of them cruising. Is this possibly what people are referring to, or did the sate AG also send a letter?

 

To be clear, the Surgeon General only has authority over health protocols.

[James4me]

21 hours ago, Sunshine3601 said:

There are many medical sites that say vaccinated people can still get covid.  Most of the cases do not get severely sick and most dont require hospitalization.  So all the more reason to be vaccinated.   It has been said on many news tv channels too.  I cannot believe you havent heard that.   You can google it.

I hate fake media.  I don’t know who to believe in anymore.

[James4me]

On 5/21/2021 at 5:43 PM, gadaboutgal said:

Wrong.   Vaccinated can catch Covid from unvaccinated.  This is absolutely proven.  Benefit of vaccination is that the Covid will not be deadly.  But you can get sick and who wants to get sick!!

What you’ll catch is called the seasonable FLU.  Have we all forgotten that we do and will get the flu or are they now lumping the flu with Covid-19 to get people even more paranoid?

[livingonthebeach]

2 hours ago, jrapps said:

I know the state of Florida Surgeon General sent a letter saying that nothing from the state stands in the way of them cruising. Is this possibly what people are referring to, or did the sate AG also send a letter?

 

To be clear, the Surgeon General only has authority over health protocols.

 

Yes, you are correct it was the Florida Surgeon General -- I found the letter.  The FB poster got it wrong by saying it was the AG, unless the AG also sent them a letter. 

[harkinmr]

8 hours ago, At Sea At Peace said:

 

So, Florida commencing the litigation to permit cruising is deemed to be getting in the way of cruising from Florida?  OK.  🙃  Ooops.  Forgot to mention the Governor, which is really what this is all about isn't it?

Well, ya!  He’s the one that initiated it, so the vaccine ban is at odds with his push to restart cruising. His problem is he wants his cake and to eat it too. Sometimes you just overstep your bounds and walking things back can be humiliating. Oh well, the price of politics I guess. 

[smokeybandit]

23 hours ago, Sunshine3601 said:

There are many medical sites that say vaccinated people can still get covid.  Most of the cases do not get severely sick and most dont require hospitalization.  So all the more reason to be vaccinated.   It has been said on many news tv channels too.  I cannot believe you havent heard that.   You can google it.

 

Yet you have  a 0.01% chance of getting covid after vaccination. But yes, it's possible.

[jrapps]

2 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

 

Yet you have  a 0.01% chance of getting covid after vaccination. But yes, it's possible.

The NY Yankees would disagree with that percentage

[smokeybandit]

Just now, jrapps said:

The NY Yankees would disagree with that percentage

But the CDC wouldn't, since that's where the percentage came from through their breakthrough case surveillance program.

[jrapps]

18 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

But the CDC wouldn't, since that's where the percentage came from through their breakthrough case surveillance program.

My understanding of that statistic is that 0.1% of vaccinated catch Covid AND are sick enough to be hospitalized.

 

I don't believe they have a metric for the true number of breakthrough cases as most are asymptomatic. Most people would never have known unless others in their orbit get sick and they all get tested (NY Yankees being a great example of that)

[gadaboutgal]

2 hours ago, James4me said:

What you’ll catch is called the seasonable FLU.  Have we all forgotten that we do and will get the flu or are they now lumping the flu with Covid-19 to get people even more paranoid?

Tsk, tsk.  Believe or not whatever you choose.  There is a difference between the flu and Covid.  I pray you never personally find out.

[Mark_UK]

Had my jab yesterday over in the UK aged 33. Can't wait to get back onboard (Symphony in Nov) and pleased about the new policy 🤗. 

 

I had COVID back in March 2020, spent many nights sweating, had a horrible cold and completely lost my taste for ~3 months, which hasn't really fully recovered - many things still have a chemical type taste. 

[ericfromri]

18 hours ago, jrapps said:

I think (maybe hope is the better word) that it's possible to talk about FL being an obstacle without it getting political. I know this often devolves into democrat, republican, liberal, conservative, socialist, fascist, garbage talk. It doesn't have to. We can disagree AND be civilized (sometimes LOL)

 

I firmly believe the lawsuit (FL vs CDC) lit a fire and is very responsible for the progress made in the last 2-3 weeks. I may not always (or ever) agree with Desantis, but this was a good move for the cruise industry. The cruise lines and the CDC are talking, Alaska looks like its going forward, rules are being relaxed, mediation is starting next week. This is all positive. Kudos to FL and their legislature.

 

It is also possible to realize that the FL legislature (and governor) can both be directly responsible for progress, and at the same time they can't help but also get in their own way. Let's have our cake and eat it too. Life is never that simple. We face a very likely scenario where the administration that helped cruising start again may also be the same administration that ends up suing (or threatening to sue) the cruise lines over vaccines. There have been several other states that have opposed the CDC, passed vaccine passport laws, AND be friendly to cruise line wishes. (TX comes to mind). 

 

So yes, FL is going to find itself in a situation where the governor may soon be the biggest obstacle to his own success in restarting the cruise industry. I'm not trying to badmouth him. If he didn't dig his heels on the whole vaccine cruise ship thing, I would find myself in the unusual position of praising him (and gladly do so). As it stands now, the TX economy may be the biggest recipient of the his actions.

i took one cruise out of galveston, and i assure you there won't be a second.  most of the ships  there are on their last leg..  the baltimore of the south.  just look at all the carnival barges that park in this place.