sept10dsm Posted June 11, 2021 #151 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, 3kidsncats said: The person onboard for a points related travel blog reported that the two people were retested and came back positive again. She was on an excursion with them two days earlier, so was also quarantined with priority testing (hers came back negative). No idea what test was done, but what do you think the likelihood of false positives for these same two people would be on repeat tests? (Presuming the reporting is accurate, which is not a given in my experience). I would think they truly were retested before all this became the news of the day. Or I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3kidsncats Posted June 11, 2021 #152 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, sept10dsm said: I would think they truly were retested before all this became the news of the day. Or I hope so. I would hope so too, but you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzasteve Posted June 12, 2021 #153 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, BecciBoo said: All I did was click the QUOTE BUTTON. WHO SAID THAT THEN? At the time, answering this question only required one to scroll up two posts and read. But to answer, I believe you quoted Sept10dsm, not me, but I think that material may have been removed by moderators. Also, you chose to edit the posts, which can remove the proper quote formatting and attribute the quoted text to the wrong person, especially if you are reacting to a quoted portion within a post, and not the person whose post you chose to respond to. IMHO it is poor form to not put the full context off a quote by cherry picking a single sentence, out of context, nor to be certain you are quoting the right person. I could type anything and attribute it to you as a quote, which isnt very nice, but is supported by the editor. To avoid this I tend to bold or highlight the sentence within an intact quote. Removing context is usually an attempt a spin doctoring. So my recommendation is to quote the post you are reponding to, not a person who has also quoted that post, since the quote within a quote is removed by your editing it down to the one sentence you wanted, but the wrong person is left as who was being quoted. FYI, using ALL CAPS, is considered online yelling, and is also poor form, but doesnt stop people without much to say, but who want to say it loud. Perhaps you knew that? Have a nice afternoon. Edited June 12, 2021 by Pizzasteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted June 12, 2021 #154 Share Posted June 12, 2021 5 hours ago, 3kidsncats said: The person onboard for a points related travel blog reported that the two people were retested and came back positive again. She was on an excursion with them two days earlier, so was also quarantined with priority testing (hers came back negative). No idea what test was done, but what do you think the likelihood of false positives for these same two people would be on repeat tests? (Presuming the reporting is accurate, which is not a given in my experience). I wouldn’t trust the positive second antigen test. A molecular PCR test is needed as confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3kidsncats Posted June 12, 2021 #155 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: I wouldn’t trust the positive second antigen test. A molecular PCR test is needed as confirmation. Thanks for your opinion. Hopefully these two get the more accurate test soon, in case they don’t need to quarantine afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted June 12, 2021 #156 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Pizzasteve said: Removing context is usually an attempt a spin doctoring. Or, perhaps, removing extraneous and irrelevant text. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted June 12, 2021 #157 Share Posted June 12, 2021 7 hours ago, 3kidsncats said: The person onboard for a points related travel blog reported that the two people were retested and came back positive again. She was on an excursion with them two days earlier, so was also quarantined with priority testing (hers came back negative). No idea what test was done, but what do you think the likelihood of false positives for these same two people would be on repeat tests? (Presuming the reporting is accurate, which is not a given in my experience). No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted June 12, 2021 #158 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Pizzasteve said: At the time, answering this question only required one to scroll up two posts and read. But to answer, I believe you quoted Sept10dsm, not me, but I think that material may have been removed by moderators. Also, you chose to edit the posts, which can remove the proper quote formatting and attribute the quoted text to the wrong person, especially if you are reacting to a quoted portion within a post, and not the person whose post you chose to respond to. IMHO it is poor form to not put the full context off a quote by cherry picking a single sentence, out of context, nor to be certain you are quoting the right person. I could type anything and attribute it to you as a quote, which isnt very nice, but is supported by the editor. To avoid this I tend to bold or highlight the sentence within an intact quote. Removing context is usually an attempt a spin doctoring. So my recommendation is to quote the post you are reponding to, not a person who has also quoted that post, since the quote within a quote is removed by your editing it down to the one sentence you wanted, but the wrong person is left as who was being quoted. FYI, using ALL CAPS, is considered online yelling, and is also poor form, but doesnt stop people without much to say, but who want to say it loud. Perhaps you knew that? Have a nice afternoon. Are you an English Lord.... Poor form and all, so improper. 😱😂 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzasteve Posted June 12, 2021 #159 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Biker19 said: Or, perhaps, removing extraneous and irrelevant text. Fair enough, but do you want someone quoting you as saying something wrong and the opposite of your opinion? Anyway back to the topic... Edited June 12, 2021 by Pizzasteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted June 12, 2021 #160 Share Posted June 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Pizzasteve said: Fair enough, but do you want someone quoting you as saying something wrong and the opposite of your opinion? Almost expected here at CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki Posted June 12, 2021 #161 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 12:48 PM, soremekun said: Bound to happen. Good thing was it was contained and not everyone's cruise is ruined. Imagine how many people would have been ill if RC didn’t require vaccinations or testing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki Posted June 12, 2021 #162 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 1:13 PM, cruiserchuck said: I assume the odds that they are both false positives are long also. Maybe they both received the less effective J&J vaccine, or came down with one of the newer variants. The vaccinations aren’t 100% effective. But if you do get it, it’s not so bad as to be hospitalized or cause death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki Posted June 12, 2021 #163 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 1:30 PM, harkinmr said: Very unusual. Both in the same cabin. Were they really vaccinated? Would be interesting to find out. Why were they tested? If they were asymptomatic what would be the impetus behind testing in the first place? Makes me think there is more to this story AND that starting with the next sailing they will be testing all vaccinated passengers at the port. It’s probably a couple who live together. So, the odds of both of them being sick at the same time is not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki Posted June 12, 2021 #164 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 3:30 PM, harkinmr said: There is no absolute proof at this time that prior infection provides long term immunity. According to articles I have read, and confirmed by my daughter who’s a Nurse Practitioner, getting the virus only gives you immunity for about 3 months. You’re not permanently immuned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilkoyne Posted June 12, 2021 #165 Share Posted June 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, iuki said: According to articles I have read, and confirmed by my daughter who’s a Nurse Practitioner, getting the virus only gives you immunity for about 3 months. You’re not permanently immuned. Initially it was thought 3 months but newer research is showing natural immunity can last much longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki Posted June 12, 2021 #166 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 minute ago, kilkoyne said: Initially it was thought 3 months but newer research is showing natural immunity can last much longer. Good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted June 12, 2021 #167 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, iuki said: According to articles I have read, and confirmed by my daughter who’s a Nurse Practitioner, getting the virus only gives you immunity for about 3 months. You’re not permanently immuned. That has been updated. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-last-after-covid-19-what-we-know https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19 Edited June 12, 2021 by jean87510 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 12, 2021 #168 Share Posted June 12, 2021 8 hours ago, xpcdoojk said: Are you an English Lord.... Poor form and all, so improper. 😱😂 You actually read that entire diatribe on recommendations for proper posting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 12, 2021 #169 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, iuki said: Imagine how many people would have been ill if RC didn’t require vaccinations or testing. On a ship requiring vaccinations? Probably next to none. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 12, 2021 #170 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, iuki said: It’s probably a couple who live together. So, the odds of both of them being sick at the same time is not surprising. They are not sick according to the article. Did you read something different? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted June 12, 2021 #171 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I tried to keep up with all of the threads dealing with C 19 and too many and sometime quite verbose. Wondering was the crew tested or the ones who came in contact with these 2 gentlemen and if any results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 12, 2021 #172 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, iuki said: According to articles I have read, and confirmed by my daughter who’s a Nurse Practitioner, getting the virus only gives you immunity for about 3 months. You’re not permanently immuned. Wrong. That is old information. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWBirdman Posted June 12, 2021 #173 Share Posted June 12, 2021 7 hours ago, iuki said: Imagine how many people would have been ill if RC didn’t require vaccinations or testing. Not much different vaxed or unvaxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sept10dsm Posted June 12, 2021 #174 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, iuki said: According to articles I have read, and confirmed by my daughter who’s a Nurse Practitioner, getting the virus only gives you immunity for about 3 months. You’re not permanently immuned. This has been updated. Even NIH (I don't know how to add link) stated back in Jan (no mention on news!) that they hoped the vaccine showed as much immunity as natural recovered (I"m paraphrasing but I was actually shocked to see they had a study) They've found not only antibodies but T cells that hold the memory to fight the illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sept10dsm Posted June 12, 2021 #175 Share Posted June 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: They are not sick according to the article. Did you read something different? Yes, not sick but all the news etc. Hopefully this doesn't happen often. With cruising, and the extensive testing this is bound to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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