Rare MicCanberra Posted August 11, 2021 #101 Share Posted August 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: No, you're safe from that. The ACT has it's own statistical region. 🤣 I assume capital Region is everything east of Riverina and south of shoalhaven, excluding the ACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted August 11, 2021 #102 Share Posted August 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: I assume capital Region is everything east of Riverina and south of shoalhaven, excluding the ACT. It looks like it. Where does the alpine region fit do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 11, 2021 #103 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said: It looks like it. Where does the alpine region fit do you think? Capital I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare onlyslightlymad Posted August 11, 2021 Author #104 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Our govt is due to respond today to the epidemiologist recommendations re border reopening. There may be some cruise clues. I did like this analogy regarding the unvaccinated though. I can't share the whole article because it is behind a paywall. Being unvaccinated has been likened to keeping your house lights on at night during a bombing blitz: you're exercising your right to do as you please, but you're endangering yourself and everyone around you. Those people aren't in much danger right now because the skies have been cleared in the form of our mostly Covid-impenetrable borders. But that will change as the borders start to reopen next year. If that is delayed, resentment towards those with the house lights still on might simmer over into resentment towards the Government for keeping the lid on Fortress NZ to protect them. And the Prime Minister may find herself morally obliged to protect them if the unvaccinated cohort is large - but it would come at a political cost. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieCanberra Posted August 11, 2021 #105 Share Posted August 11, 2021 @onlyslightlymad I agree, a great analogy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted August 11, 2021 #106 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Onlyslightlymad - Good article. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted August 11, 2021 #107 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Tasmania leading the charge of states on Vaccination, both territories close behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted August 11, 2021 #108 Share Posted August 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: Tasmania leading the charge of states on Vaccination, both territories close behind. WA is dragging the chain and is at the back of the pack, in the race that is not a race.☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted August 11, 2021 #109 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I suppose some states, areas, suburbs have the jump on others purely due to the age demograhic. The older the population, the more eligible to have been fully vaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare onlyslightlymad Posted August 11, 2021 Author #110 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Here it is - the four step plan. I guess we are in phase 2. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-coronavirus-the-plan-to-re-open-nz-home-isolation-shorter-miq-for-vaccinated-travellers/MPEMUWBNFGXQHDG7QJFV7GMMEU/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted August 11, 2021 #111 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Tasmania has the advantage being a small island state. Vic is a small state. Qld and WA have the disadvantage of being large states with Qld being decentralised. nSW has disadvantage of having a large population in a medium size state. I was surprised to see a photo of Goondiwindi on front page of Courier Mail re being most vaccinised. CHO at press briefing said the Govt vaccinated all ages at once at small communities. Makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted August 11, 2021 #112 Share Posted August 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, onlyslightlymad said: Here it is - the four step plan. I guess we are in phase 2. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-coronavirus-the-plan-to-re-open-nz-home-isolation-shorter-miq-for-vaccinated-travellers/MPEMUWBNFGXQHDG7QJFV7GMMEU/ Thank you. MIQ. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted August 11, 2021 #113 Share Posted August 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: Thank you. MIQ. ? Managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) charges allow the Government to recover some of the costs for MIQ. The aim of the charges is to share the costs in a way that fairly reflects the benefits to both the New Zealand public of having a robust system, and those who leave and enter the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted August 11, 2021 #114 Share Posted August 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, By The Bay said: Managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) charges allow the Government to recover some of the costs for MIQ. The aim of the charges is to share the costs in a way that fairly reflects the benefits to both the New Zealand public of having a robust system, and those who leave and enter the country. Great idea. Kiwis could always leave and come back. Unlike Aust! However more Aussies have left and come back than I realised. Seems to be two sets of rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare frantic36 Posted August 12, 2021 #115 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, By The Bay said: WA is dragging the chain and is at the back of the pack, in the race that is not a race.☹️ We are a big State with lots of remote communities up North. Apparently in some of those indigenous communities the young are labelling it a "White man's disease" because our isolating & protecting them has gone well. Our government needs to learn from the NT government how to help them understand it is vitally important to their community to get vaccinated. Also because we don't have an outbreak at the moment our under 30's are discouraged from getting AZ vaccine. I checked for my sons at a major respiratory clinic and our GP and was told they can't get Pfizer yet and would have to jump through hoops and were still unlikely to get AZ. Hopefully next month they will be eligible because they are keen to get vaccinated . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getting older slowly Posted August 12, 2021 #116 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Maybe the figures need to be Vaccinated ( 2 shots ) and in small print started Vaccination... particularly with the time between shots with AZ....... The Race which isn't on Sports Bet ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted August 12, 2021 #117 Share Posted August 12, 2021 ACT is going into snap 7 day lockdown as at 5pm today, we have a case identified, had to have come from NSW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted August 12, 2021 #118 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, frantic36 said: We are a big State with lots of remote communities up North. Apparently in some of those indigenous communities the young are labelling it a "White man's disease" because our isolating & protecting them has gone well. Our government needs to learn from the NT government how to help them understand it is vitally important to their community to get vaccinated. The problem with Australia opening up, is the requirement for all States to achieve 80% vaccination of the eligible population. That is when we reach Phase C, and the lifting of all restrictions on outbound travel for vaccinated Australians. We will be held up getting to Stage C, if some States lag others.😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted August 12, 2021 #119 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, By The Bay said: The problem with Australia opening up, is the requirement for all States to achieve 80% vaccination of the eligible population. That is when we reach Phase C, and the lifting of all restrictions on outbound travel for vaccinated Australians. We will be held up getting to Stage C, if some States lag others.😡 True but at this stage, it is more about people being eligible and having the shots available than the hesitancy of the public. Yes there are some anti Vaxer's, and some more that are apathetic but they are very few in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted August 12, 2021 #120 Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: ACT is going into snap 7 day lockdown as at 5pm today, we have a case identified, had to have come from NSW Or the person went into NSW?🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare frantic36 Posted August 12, 2021 #121 Share Posted August 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, By The Bay said: The problem with Australia opening up, is the requirement for all States to achieve 80% vaccination of the eligible population. That is when we reach Phase C, and the lifting of all restrictions on outbound travel for vaccinated Australians. We will be held up getting to Stage C, if some States lag others.😡 Don't worry I am very frustrated with our slow roll out. For flu vaccines we usually do well, so maybe once we start having pharmacies able to give out vaccines that will also speed things up. Maybe having some sort of vaccine passport is the way to go especially for things like travel and going to sporting events. This might be the incentive for people to be vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted August 12, 2021 #122 Share Posted August 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, frantic36 said: Don't worry I am very frustrated with our slow roll out. For flu vaccines we usually do well, so maybe once we start having pharmacies able to give out vaccines that will also speed things up. Maybe having some sort of vaccine passport is the way to go especially for things like travel and going to sporting events. This might be the incentive for people to be vaccinated. Totally agree. A bit of carrot and the stick approach is needed to get people vaccinated, once supplies improve.😷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted August 12, 2021 #123 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I have just re-scheduled my planned staycation in the Hunter Valley. I am now going for February, lockdown should be finished by then. 🙂 It is a bit like my re-scheduled cruises, they keep getting pushed back.☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted August 12, 2021 #124 Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 hours ago, onlyslightlymad said: Our govt is due to respond today to the epidemiologist recommendations re border reopening. There may be some cruise clues. I did like this analogy regarding the unvaccinated though. I can't share the whole article because it is behind a paywall. Being unvaccinated has been likened to keeping your house lights on at night during a bombing blitz: you're exercising your right to do as you please, but you're endangering yourself and everyone around you. Those people aren't in much danger right now because the skies have been cleared in the form of our mostly Covid-impenetrable borders. But that will change as the borders start to reopen next year. If that is delayed, resentment towards those with the house lights still on might simmer over into resentment towards the Government for keeping the lid on Fortress NZ to protect them. And the Prime Minister may find herself morally obliged to protect them if the unvaccinated cohort is large - but it would come at a political cost. This morning just read this article from Germany: Suspected saline switch sparks vaccine stir in Germany And people say anti vaxers are only a danger to themselves🙄. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare frantic36 Posted August 12, 2021 #125 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said: This morning just read this article from Germany: Suspected saline switch sparks vaccine stir in Germany And people say anti vaxers are only a danger to themselves🙄. OMG!!! I am shocked and horrified and hope that that she is deregistered and prosecuted. She was basically doing a Nurse Death and putting lives at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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